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[Digital BW] MIS UltraChrome blk

[Digital BW] MIS UltraChrome blk

2003-02-03 by Paul Roark

Vinny,

>Just wondering if the new MIS Ultrachrome black, that Paul says is
>the best in the fade test, can be used in the black position of the
>VM ink set. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.

Sorry if I confused things.  The most light-fast black in my fade testing is
the EPSON UC Matte black.  I do not think it is necessarily the best black,
however.  It is very warm.  It is also a non-coated pigment, which will
probably make it fade relatively faster than the coated pigments in real
world situations.  The light-box faders dry the pigments and eliminate the
moisture that catalyzes the oxidation & fading.

I have the PiezoTone Museum K and MIS's latest high-load matte black in the
fader now.  I'll know more this Friday.

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] MIS UltraChrome blk

2003-02-03 by Vincent Orlando <orlandovl@hotmail.com>

Paul, thanks for straightening me out. I will wait for your test 
results. I am getting great results with the VM set and your curves 
but would like something that will not fade any warmer.

Vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Vinny,
> 
> >Just wondering if the new MIS Ultrachrome black, that Paul says is
> >the best in the fade test, can be used in the black position of the
> >VM ink set. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sorry if I confused things.  The most light-fast black in my fade 
testing is
> the EPSON UC Matte black.  I do not think it is necessarily the 
best black,
> however.  It is very warm.  It is also a non-coated pigment, which 
will
> probably make it fade relatively faster than the coated pigments in 
real
> world situations.  The light-box faders dry the pigments and 
eliminate the
> moisture that catalyzes the oxidation & fading.
> 
> I have the PiezoTone Museum K and MIS's latest high-load matte 
black in the
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> fader now.  I'll know more this Friday.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] MIS UltraChrome blk

2003-02-03 by Jerry Olson

Paul, what is a High load matte black?

Enhanced gen 4 still the winner of deepest black?

Thanks,

Jerry





Paul Roark wrote:
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> 
> Vinny,
> 
> >Just wondering if the new MIS Ultrachrome black, that Paul says is
> >the best in the fade test, can be used in the black position of the
> >VM ink set. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Sorry if I confused things.  The most light-fast black in my fade testing is
> the EPSON UC Matte black.  I do not think it is necessarily the best black,
> however.  It is very warm.  It is also a non-coated pigment, which will
> probably make it fade relatively faster than the coated pigments in real
> world situations.  The light-box faders dry the pigments and eliminate the
> moisture that catalyzes the oxidation & fading.
> 
> I have the PiezoTone Museum K and MIS's latest high-load matte black in the
> fader now.  I'll know more this Friday.
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
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Re: [Digital BW] MIS UltraChrome blk

2003-02-03 by Jerry Olson

Vincent, use a cold or cool curve with that MIS VM inkset, and your
prints shouldn't fade or warm much. If they fade at all it would be
towards neutral. I use Generations 4 enhanced black with the MIS VM
other 5 positions.

Jerry





"Vincent Orlando " wrote:
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> 
> Paul, thanks for straightening me out. I will wait for your test
> results. I am getting great results with the VM set and your curves
> but would like something that will not fade any warmer.
> 
> Vinny
> http://www.wulfsden.com
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Vinny,
> >
> > >Just wondering if the new MIS Ultrachrome black, that Paul says is
> > >the best in the fade test, can be used in the black position of the
> > >VM ink set. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Sorry if I confused things.  The most light-fast black in my fade
> testing is
> > the EPSON UC Matte black.  I do not think it is necessarily the
> best black,
> > however.  It is very warm.  It is also a non-coated pigment, which
> will
> > probably make it fade relatively faster than the coated pigments in
> real
> > world situations.  The light-box faders dry the pigments and
> eliminate the
> > moisture that catalyzes the oxidation & fading.
> >
> > I have the PiezoTone Museum K and MIS's latest high-load matte
> black in the
> > fader now.  I'll know more this Friday.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
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Re: MIS UltraChrome blk

2003-02-04 by Vincent Orlando <orlandovl@hotmail.com>

Jerry, I just started using that curve. I was using the MW before 
and was getting a warm shift. I am using the Gen4 K black as you 
advised. I am now using the cool curve to see if it better.

Thanks a million
vinny
http://www.wulfsden.com



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Jerry Olson 
<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Vincent, use a cold or cool curve with that MIS VM inkset, and your
> prints shouldn't fade or warm much. If they fade at all it would be
> towards neutral. I use Generations 4 enhanced black with the MIS VM
> other 5 positions.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> "Vincent Orlando " wrote:
> > 
> > Paul, thanks for straightening me out. I will wait for your test
> > results. I am getting great results with the VM set and your 
curves
> > but would like something that will not fade any warmer.
> > 
> > Vinny
> > http://www.wulfsden.com
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> > <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > > Vinny,
> > >
> > > >Just wondering if the new MIS Ultrachrome black, that Paul 
says is
> > > >the best in the fade test, can be used in the black position 
of the
> > > >VM ink set. Any comments will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Sorry if I confused things.  The most light-fast black in my 
fade
> > testing is
> > > the EPSON UC Matte black.  I do not think it is necessarily the
> > best black,
> > > however.  It is very warm.  It is also a non-coated pigment, 
which
> > will
> > > probably make it fade relatively faster than the coated 
pigments in
> > real
> > > world situations.  The light-box faders dry the pigments and
> > eliminate the
> > > moisture that catalyzes the oxidation & fading.
> > >
> > > I have the PiezoTone Museum K and MIS's latest high-load matte
> > black in the
> > > fader now.  I'll know more this Friday.
> > >
> > > Paul
> > > http://www.PaulRoark.com
> > 
> > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, 
Polls and other resources as they are often being updated. The page 
is at:
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> > 
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wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by 
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> > 
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> > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier 
messages to keep them short.
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subject header.
> > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or 
&amp;amp;quot;flames.&amp;amp;quot;
> > - Complete your Yahoo profile.
> > - Before posting a question, search the message archives and the 
various resources on the homepage.
> > 
> > 
> > 
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