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Re: When will we get simple....

Re: When will we get simple....

2003-02-13 by Diane Fields

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Julian Thomas"
<julianthomas@t...> wrote:
> > I want to go into Photoshop, adjust my histogrom and
> > curves so it looks good on my monitor, hit the OK button
> > on the print dialog and have it print that way.

> As to output you don't want to softproof, match for
> different inks and paper?

<<No.  For black and white printing I'm happy to use
one set of inks and one kind of paper.   If my curves and
histogram are set right I expect 0 to print as perfectly
black, 255 to print as perfectly white, and consistent
relationship in between.    If my monitor is and printer
are profiled corectly I expect the print to look like what
I see on the screen.

<<I can already do this in color.

If you are using a PC, then its not working quite like this unless you are
happy with the Epson 'out of the box' setup (printer management).  From PS
with a PC (LOL), you need to do a view/proof/and do a proof for a paper
profile.  Then in print preview, you need to do advanced printing/source is
same as proof--which you selected in your custom proof (the paper profile).
THEN--you can hit print, OKAY, and in the Epson dialog box, choose your
media, do custom/advanced and make sure that 'no color management' is
selected.  If you aren't doing this (with a PC), you are not getting all you
can get out of our color print--or at least not being able to work very well
from within Photoshop.  Its not just as easy as getting your image as you
want it with curves, levels, USM etc.---you want your print to approximate
what is on your monitor, I would think--otherwise, why bother?!?

Diane
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Diane B. Fields
picnic@...
photo site    http://www.pbase.com/picnic

Re: When will we get simple....

2003-02-13 by plnelson2003 <peter@studio-nelson.com>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Diane Fields" 

> If you are using a PC, then its not working quite like this unless 
you are
> happy with the Epson 'out of the box' setup (printer management).  
From PS
> with a PC (LOL), you need to do a view/proof/and do a proof for a 
paper
> profile.  Then in print preview, you need to do advanced 
printing/source is
> same as proof--which you selected in your custom proof (the paper 
profile).
> THEN--you can hit print, OKAY, and in the Epson dialog box, choose 
your
> media, do custom/advanced and make sure that 'no color management' 
is
> selected.  If you aren't doing this (with a PC), you are not 
getting all you
> can get out of our color print--or at least not being able to work 
very well
> from within Photoshop.  Its not just as easy as getting your image 
as you
> want it with curves, levels, USM etc.---you want your print to 
approximate
> what is on your monitor, I would think--otherwise, why bother?!?

I don't know which version of Photoshop you're using,
but I don't need to reset my monitor and paper profiles
every time I boot up.  I hit Print, click the Custom
radio button to select my settings (that takes care of
the ink, paper, etc) and hit OK.    I don't need to do a
proof, and I usually have the Preview option turned off.
Don't you have a way to save your custom settings and
options in a file, and doesn't it remember your monitor
and printer/paper profiles between prints?  Mine does.
(I'm running PS 6 on Win2K)

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