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Does it do anything different/better that Nikon's Capture 3.5, Nikon View 5 or Qimage? 

Peter Palmieri



  Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If 
  it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP 
  Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.

  You can down load it off Adobe's web site.

  Steve



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As someone who has NEF files, CRW files, 1D TIF files and now 1DS TIF files,
this plug-in is the cat's pajamas. Works very fast on my P4 2.4ghz. I still
love the way the Capture One software converts the 1DS files, but Adobe is
doing a great job here.

Luke Granfield

> Does it do anything different/better that Nikon's Capture 3.5, Nikon View
5 or Qimage?

>
> Peter Palmieri
>
>
>
>   Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If
>   it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP
>   Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.
>
>   You can down load it off Adobe's web site.
>

Did anyone catch the fact it MAY be in a future release of Photoshop? 
It's in the small print of the detail explanation of what the plug-in 
does. It may be better to spend the $99 cost on the next Photoshop upgrade.
Mark

Luke Granfield wrote:

> As someone who has NEF files, CRW files, 1D TIF files and now 1DS TIF 
> files,
> this plug-in is the cat's pajamas. Works very fast on my P4 2.4ghz. I 
> still
> love the way the Capture One software converts the 1DS files, but Adobe is
> doing a great job here.
>
> Luke Granfield
>
> > Does it do anything different/better that Nikon's Capture 3.5, Nikon 
> View
> 5 or Qimage?
> >
> > Peter Palmieri
> >
> >
> >
> >   Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If
> >   it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP
> >   Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.
> >
> >   You can down load it off Adobe's web site.
> >
>
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I did notice this fine print, as well as the comment that Adobe can't 
guarantee how long this standalone upgrade will be available.  But I just 
started with Photoshop 7 and so have not been through an upgrade 
cycle.  Anyone remember what the historical cost of upgrades has been for 
Photoshop?  If the upgrade cost is usually substantial I might be tempted 
to just get this plug in now and forget about upgrading to the next release 
when it comes along (since PS7 seems to be working fine for me at my level 
of skill.)

Cheers,
Kip

At 2/19/2003 10:35 AM -0500, you wrote:

>Did anyone catch the fact it MAY be in a future release of Photoshop?
>It's in the small print of the detail explanation of what the plug-in
>does. It may be better to spend the $99 cost on the next Photoshop upgrade.
>Mark

Well, as they also stated, it's released due to demand.  Giving you 
the option of now or later.  Upgrades are usually in the 149-200 
range if I remember correctly.

However...the dynamic histogram while making image corrections is 
pretty niffty.  It has a feel of working with all the adjustments we 
usually do - with the 'original' information.  

More, much later however.  (I wanted it & don't yet care about an 
upgrade).

Cleavis

Re: PS8 upgrade - Does anyone have an idea on a target date for its release?
I haven't even heard any guesstimates.  Just curious.  I can't even remember
how long PS7 has been out :)

Photoshop upgrades are usually available for about $125-$139 street 
price. They cost a little more from Adobe
directly than, say, Micro Warehouse, or Mac Warehouse, Mac Connection, etc.

Jerry




Kip Babington wrote:

> I did notice this fine print, as well as the comment that Adobe can't 
> guarantee how long this standalone upgrade will be available.  But I just 
> started with Photoshop 7 and so have not been through an upgrade 
> cycle.  Anyone remember what the historical cost of upgrades has been for 
> Photoshop?  If the upgrade cost is usually substantial I might be tempted 
> to just get this plug in now and forget about upgrading to the next release 
> when it comes along (since PS7 seems to be working fine for me at my level 
> of skill.)
> 
> Cheers,
> Kip
> 
> At 2/19/2003 10:35 AM -0500, you wrote:
> 
> 
>>Did anyone catch the fact it MAY be in a future release of Photoshop?
>>It's in the small print of the detail explanation of what the plug-in
>>does. It may be better to spend the $99 cost on the next Photoshop upgrade.
>>Mark
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Does anyone have actual experience with this plug-in.  I often shoot 
in raw format with my Canon G-2 and while the Canon software works 
well, it takes a very long time to convert and process these files.  
If Camera Raw is appreciably faster, I would spring for it.  I have 
no problem with what is output from the Canon software -- just the 
time the gnomes take processing the image.  (Sorry if this is off 
topic for the list.)

Steve


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<jerryolson@r...> wrote:
> Photoshop upgrades are usually available for about $125-$139 street 
> price. They cost a little more from Adobe
> directly than, say, Micro Warehouse, or Mac Warehouse, Mac 
Connection, etc.
> 
> Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Kip Babington wrote:
> > I did notice this fine print, as well as the comment that Adobe 
can't 
> > guarantee how long this standalone upgrade will be available.  
But I just 
> > started with Photoshop 7 and so have not been through an upgrade 
> > cycle.  Anyone remember what the historical cost of upgrades has 
been for 
> > Photoshop?  If the upgrade cost is usually substantial I might be 
tempted 
> > to just get this plug in now and forget about upgrading to the 
next release 
> > when it comes along (since PS7 seems to be working fine for me at 
my level 
> > of skill.)
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Kip
> > 
> > At 2/19/2003 10:35 AM -0500, you wrote:
> > 
> > 
> >>Did anyone catch the fact it MAY be in a future release of 
Photoshop?
> >>It's in the small print of the detail explanation of what the 
plug-in
> >>does. It may be better to spend the $99 cost on the next 
Photoshop upgrade.
> >>Mark
> > 
> > 
> > 
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Hello Doug,

>I can't even remember how long PS7 has been out 

I seem to recall that PS7 was released last April.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Just for those with Nikon Capture, a new software update was posted 2-17-03;
Update is for v.3.5 to  3.5.1 for Windows and Mac.

 Thanks
Frank
Francis James Mares Photography
e-mail: fjmares@...
www.fjmaresphoto.com


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What I saw, demonstrated at the PEI Digital Conference, it will do every
thing better. They developed a Raw file to a tiff in about 6 seconds.

Peter Palmieri wrote:

> 
> Does it do anything different/better that Nikon's Capture 3.5, Nikon
> View 5 or Qimage?
> 
> Peter Palmieri
> 
>   Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If
> 
>   it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP
>   Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.
> 
>   You can down load it off Adobe's web site.
> 
>   Steve
> 
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Just bought it and tried it. I use an S2. 
 
So far, 2 thumbs up.
 
Robert G. Hall
Robert Hall Photography
www.RobertHallPhotography.com
801-673-4510 
> Peter Palmieri
> 
>   Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If
> 
>   it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP
>   Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.
> 
 


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To all who may be interested in Adobe's new RAW plug-in for Photoshop 7:

There are currently two reviews on the 'net that I read today:
www.outbackphoto.com and www.luminous-landscape.com. From what I've
read, the plug-in sounds pretty versatile for the $99 buy in. It was written
by Thomas Knoll; the original developer for PS. So...it certainly
has credentials behind it! Adobe has mentioned that it will be included in
the next version of Photoshop, but since I anticipate my next PS
upgrade to be a year or more away I'm inclined to not wait. Also, this
plug-in will allow me to do conversions on my Mac. I currently convert
my D30 RAW files on a PC with YarcPlus. I really like the YarcPlus software,
but the integration with PS and the real-time feedback
available through this plug-in will probably just be too much to resist.

What the heck...it's only money. Hmmm...if I could just convince the wife of
that fact so I could get a 1Ds!! ;>)

Best regards,
Alan Huntley

----- Original Message -----

From: <stevenr@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 7:02 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Camera Raw


> Has anyone tried this new Adobe Photoshop Camera Raw plug in yet? If
> it's the one I saw demonstrated a couple of weeks ago at the DIP
> Digital Conference in Atlanta, it's well worth the $99.00 cost.
>
> You can down load it off Adobe's web site.
>
> Steve

Don't get rid of your old software too quickly. I found one D30 file in my
collection that wouldn't process with the PS plugin but *would* process
through BreezeBrowser (it appeared as an abstract of colors rather than a
photo in the PS plugin). So...it's possible that all the bugs are not out,
though it's still a very fine and useful digital photo tool.

Luke Granfield

> There are currently two reviews on the 'net that I read today:
> www.outbackphoto.com and www.luminous-landscape.com. From what I've
> read, the plug-in sounds pretty versatile for the $99 buy in. It was
written
> by Thomas Knoll; the original developer for PS. So...it certainly
> has credentials behind it! Adobe has mentioned that it will be included in
> the next version of Photoshop, but since I anticipate my next PS
> upgrade to be a year or more away I'm inclined to not wait. Also, this
> plug-in will allow me to do conversions on my Mac. I currently convert
> my D30 RAW files on a PC with YarcPlus. I really like the YarcPlus
software,
> but the integration with PS and the real-time feedback
> available through this plug-in will probably just be too much to resist.
>
> What the heck...it's only money. Hmmm...if I could just convince the wife
of
> that fact so I could get a 1Ds!! ;>)
>

Try C1LE (Capture One Limited Edition) from http://www.pictureflow.com/CaptureOne/Pages/C1-LE-Purchase.html, its great!

They even have a Pro version called C1DSLR pro. Do their Try b4 u buy offer, it will let you experiment with the software b4 u commit to it.

Sam

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Steven Schaefer 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:07 PM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Camera Raw


  Is there an upgrade to Camera Raw that will allow it to be used with
  Canon's D-10?

  Steve

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Yes, Adobe has it. I've been using it for a few months.

Capuozzo
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ed Mathews" <ed@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 03, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: Camera Raw


> Is there a free patch available that would allow me to use RAW format
> from my Nikon D100 with PS 7?
>
> Thanks,
> Ed
> http://lightandsilver.com
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In a message dated 9/3/03 12:02:50 PM, jvlist@... writes:


> 
> Should work without a patch...but you need to buy Adobe Camera Raw first!
> 
You should upgrade to 7.0.1 first.

All the best!

Andrew Darlow




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