Digital BW, The Print

Hello all,
I've got my 9600 emulating piezotones very nicely, and I have my 7000
sitting there, and I'm using the erogsoft posterprint v10 beta - It
can pretty much make an excellent print with quad inks on any paper
after getting an accurate linerization (read in a 21 step ramp with
the spectro, and in 5 minutes I can print on anything without problem)

So I have a few hundred pieces of odd art papaers sitting around from
my pre epson days.  I know dyes go better with uncoated stock, and
supposedly has good longevity on arches, somerset, etc etc.  

I was reading some post a day or so ago and someone mentioned they
saw a color tinge to the lysons and moved on.  

Since I already have the pigment look nailed, I want to take the leap
and have some fun with a dye set, get those "satisfying blacks", and
print on glossy.

Is anybody using lyson neutral quads out there on a 7000 (or any
printer) and are happy with it?  I'd like to hear about people
happily using these inks.

Also of import -  any favorite dealers for these inks?

many thanks,
Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio

I guess this would be filed under "minority report" here, but I use 
Lyson Quad Black Neutral inks exclusively, with a dedicated 
Epson 1160, and I've been quite satisfied with the results 
(mostly with EAM/EEM, but currently experimenting with other 
papers as time and resources allow). *I* fine the results neutral, 
although I'd bet if five of us from this list got together with our five 
most "neutral toned" prints, there would be differences. 

What has equally concerned me are issues of ink-printer 
compatibility and *relative* longevity; on the first issue, the Lyson 
quads have played nice with my 1160, with only one incident 
surrounding a cart the ran out prematurely (and had me thinking 
I had a major-league head clog). On the second issue, my 
landlady has a print I gave her a year ago, which she took the 
trouble to have expensively mounted and framed, and has been 
hanging in the foyer of the two-family house I live in for about a 
year, exposing the print not just to daylight, but to changes in 
temperature and humidity as well.  I have a "control" print in 
storage which I take out periodically to compare to the foyer print; 
so far, so good.

So, I like the look, the workflow (basically my own curves, but I'm 
very interested in how Paul's curves, among others, might work 
for me), and the reaction from others I've made prints for. I keep 
my ears open about other inks, but if I tried something new, I'd 
need another 1160 to test it on, as I rely on the 1160 for all my 
b/w work right now.

- Barrett

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tony  
Caltabiano" <calpen1@d...> wrote:

>Hello all,

>I've got my 9600 emulating piezotones very nicely, and I have 
>my 7000 sitting there, and I'm using the erogsoft posterprint v10 
>beta - It can pretty much make an excellent print with quad inks 
>on any paper after getting an accurate linerization (read in a 21 
>step ramp with the spectro, and in 5 minutes I can print on 
>anything without problem)
> 
>So I have a few hundred pieces of odd art papaers sitting 
>around from my pre epson days.  I know dyes go better with 
>uncoated stock, and supposedly has good longevity on arches, 
>somerset, etc etc.  
> 
>I was reading some post a day or so ago and someone 
>mentioned they saw a color tinge to the lysons and moved on.  
> 
>Since I already have the pigment look nailed, I want to take the 
>leap and have some fun with a dye set, get those "satisfying 
>blacks", and print on glossy.
> 
>Is anybody using lyson neutral quads out there on a 7000 (or 
>any printer) and are happy with it?  I'd like to hear about people
>happily using these inks.
> 
>Also of import -  any favorite dealers for these inks?
> 
> many thanks,
> Tony
> 
> Tony Caltabiano
> Higher Place Studio