Digital BW, The Print

> Subject: Sorry If This Has Been Beat On Already...

I have a completely different suggestion. Why not go with Jon Cones new
system for Canon printers. The advantages are mainly around the fact that
it's very turn-key, uses industry standard ICC profiles rather than
complicated Piezo software, and best of all, the heads are interchangeable
so you can do color and black and white on one printer. Clogs are a non
issue because you can actually rinse the heads off under running water. The
results are superb and, in the near future, multiple toning options will be
available by utilizing the extra ink positions for toned inks.

I have recently (4 months ago) moved into the digital B&W darkroom and think
the results are superlative.  I purchased a second 1280 to dedicate to B&W
and use the PiezotoneBW Inks (Selenium tone) with a CIS system on Photorag
308 paper - what a combination!  Recent announcements from Jon Cone (owner
of Piezotone) will reduce the entry fee for this environment and he is
talking of introducing a hextone for the 1280.

Good Luck

Richard


Message: 1
   Date: Sun, 06 Apr 2003 15:39:31 -0000

   From: "nedbuntline2002" <NedBuntline@...>
Subject: Sorry If This Has Been Beat On Already...

I'm finally making the leap from wet to digital.  I do mostly B&W 4X5
work with some 35mm.  I just purchased Photoshop 7.  Until I decide
on a scanner, I'm having a local service scan my negatives.  My
hardest decision right now is what printer to get.  I know a lot of
people use the 1280 with various quadtone inks.  And following that
is a smattering of other printers and manufacturers.

I guess I'm looking for something that isn't on the way out.  I've
looked at the 2200, but I've heard about some promising printers from
Canon for this type of work.  So my question is this:

If you had $1000 or less to spend on a printer, and wanted to get the
best you could for B&W, what would you buy right now?  Please also
take into account any rumors of future support by inkset providers.

Thanks!

Hi,
I could not find any reference to the new system. When will it be 
available?
-- 
Clive Moss

On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 12:35:33 -0400, Rick Colson <colson@...> wrote:

>> Subject: Sorry If This Has Been Beat On Already...
>
> I have a completely different suggestion. Why not go with Jon Cones new
> system for Canon printers.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Clive 
Moss <chmphoto@s...> wrote:
> Hi,
> I could not find any reference to the new system. When will it be 
> available?
> -- 
> Clive Moss
> 
> On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 12:35:33 -0400, Rick Colson 
<colson@i...> wrote:
> 
> >> Subject: Sorry If This Has Been Beat On Already...
> >
> > I have a completely different suggestion. Why not go with Jon 
Cones new
> > system for Canon printers.

Clive,
ICC profiles for the 1280 had been anounced for  April 6th. As far 
as I know, this date has been cancelled (i.e. vanished from the 
web site). No shedule for Canon ICCs has been published - as 
far as I know.
For further info you may go:
http://www.piezography.com/icc.html
http://www.piezography.com/select-models.html
Bernd

Canon 900/9000 hex black bwICC system and EPSON quad black 1160 
bwICC system to release prior to 1280 bwICC now. We are nearly there
(this month). 

We are  going to change the 1280 into a different ink positioning
system rather than the double C&M quad we used to run, so we postponed 
that. It will give the user better ink economy by using equal amounts of the 
inks in cartridges. The original system ran double full strength cyans and 
magentas which is not a fuel efficient system when run from carts.

Also, by eliminating the double quad in the 1280 (bottles or carts) the result is  
smoother output quality which is eliminating the slightly mechanical look it  
had when running double full strength cyan and magenta inks.

Two good reasons for delay in our opinion.

best,

Jon Cone
Piezography





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, " Ruhrfoto/Bernd
L." 
<ruhrfoto@y...> wrote:

> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Clive 
> Moss <chmphoto@s...> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I could not find any reference to the new system. When will it be 
> > available?
> > -- 
> > Clive Moss
> > 
> > On Sun, 06 Apr 2003 12:35:33 -0400, Rick Colson 
> <colson@i...> wrote:
> > 
> > >> Subject: Sorry If This Has Been Beat On Already...
> > >
> > > I have a completely different suggestion. Why not go with Jon 
> Cones new
> > > system for Canon printers.
> 
> Clive,
> ICC profiles for the 1280 had been anounced for  April 6th. As far 
> as I know, this date has been cancelled (i.e. vanished from the 
> web site). No shedule for Canon ICCs has been published - as 
> far as I know.
> For further info you may go:
> http://www.piezography.com/icc.html
> http://www.piezography.com/select-models.html
> Bernd