Digital BW, The Print

OK, I know I shouldn't have and did it anyway.  I downloaded and installed
the new Epson 2200 driver.  I was hoping it would fix my #1 complaint of
cropping borderless prints, it didn't.  It also removed the photorealistic
setting that used to be there and was invaluable for making decent B/W
prints.

Has anyone come up with a decent workflow using the Epson inks and new
driver?  Something that rivals the old "ICM/photorealistic/no color
adjustment" method outlined on Luminous Landscape.

Jim Gizzi
Hi-Cam\ufffd Photography and Digital Imaging
(360) 687-0458
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Gizzi" 
<jim@h...> wrote:
> OK, I know I shouldn't have and did it anyway.  I downloaded and 
installed
> the new Epson 2200 driver.  I was hoping it would fix my #1 
complaint of
> cropping borderless prints, it didn't.  It also removed the 
photorealistic
> setting that used to be there and was invaluable for making decent 
B/W
> prints.

They have a new driver and it REMOVES a feature???

What OS is this for?

Does anyone else know anything about what Jim is talking about?

Epson has a new driver for 2200 :

Printer Driver v5.4aA
Windows XP, Windows 2000
epson10700.exe - 7.4MB - posted on 04/14/03

check this out on:

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=14402&infoType=Downloads

I installed on my machine too, it sucks and didn't fix any problem 
the 2200 has.



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" 
<peter@s...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Gizzi" 
> <jim@h...> wrote:
> > OK, I know I shouldn't have and did it anyway.  I downloaded and 
> installed
> > the new Epson 2200 driver.  I was hoping it would fix my #1 
> complaint of
> > cropping borderless prints, it didn't.  It also removed the 
> photorealistic
> > setting that used to be there and was invaluable for making 
decent 

> B/W
> > prints.
> 
> They have a new driver and it REMOVES a feature???
> 
> What OS is this for?
> 
> Does anyone else know anything about what Jim is talking about?

I somewhat inadvertantly installed the new driver (V 5.4 for XP). I 
was trying to fix a conflict I had when first using the Epson 2200 
RIP (conflict turned out to be the driver for an Epson 777 printer 
and the RIP).  I had uninstalled and re-installed, piece by piece 
all my Epson software and when I reinstalled the driver I used the 
version from the web site (too lazy to find the 2200 install CD) and 
it was on the day it was upgraded (but I had not paid attention to 
the date on the driver file).  I had no problems (for my use) with 
the old driver.  Since the new driver was installed when I got the 
RIP program to work, I left it there.

I too had used the "photorealistic" setting method with the old 
driver to make nice B&W prints.  Although now I like the RIP ones 
better, I did want to have the option to use the "photorealistic" 
method so with a bit of guesswork I found that using the "advanced" 
settings window and choosing "color controls" as the selection 
for "color management" and then setting the "color mode" 
to "standard" I could get the same print I got from the same file 
earlier using "photorealistic" on the old driver.

It seems like the "loss" of a feature is perhaps really only a name 
change.  I did a couple of reprints with the new driver and the 
aformentioned settings and they looked fine.  I have not done more 
than that as I have been using the RIP so it is possible someone 
might find a difference I have not uncovered.

In summary these are the "photorealistic" settings I found from 
another posting on this group (thanks again for working these out).

BLACK AND WHITE with the 2200 and the standard Epson 2200 inkset and 
printer driver.

1. WORK AND PRINT in Adobe 1998 color space.

2. OLD DRIVER= Always use the "Photorealistic" color setting unde 
the "Advanced" settings - "Color Controls".  Use 2.2 Gamma.

(NEW DRIVER= Color controls, Color mode=standard (instead of 
photorealistic))

3. Enhanced Matte paper and matte black ink.

4. Relative colormetric, no M,C or Y adjustments, contrast or 
brightness adjustments in the print driver. Black point checked.


Hope this helps,

Robert




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" 
<peter@s...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Gizzi" 
> <jim@h...> wrote:
> > OK, I know I shouldn't have and did it anyway.  I downloaded and 
> installed
> > the new Epson 2200 driver.  I was hoping it would fix my #1 
> complaint of
> > cropping borderless prints, it didn't.  It also removed the 
> photorealistic
> > setting that used to be there and was invaluable for making 
decent 

> B/W
> > prints.
> 
> They have a new driver and it REMOVES a feature???
> 
> What OS is this for?
> 
> Does anyone else know anything about what Jim is talking about?

Jim-

What problems does the 2200 have?

thanks,

Tom


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" 
<ho_yeah@y...> wrote:
> Epson has a new driver for 2200 :
> 
> Printer Driver v5.4aA
> Windows XP, Windows 2000
> epson10700.exe - 7.4MB - posted on 04/14/03
> 
> check this out on:
> 
> http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/support/supDetail.jsp?
> BV_UseBVCookie=yes&oid=14402&infoType=Downloads
> 
> I installed on my machine too, it sucks and didn't fix any problem 
> the 2200 has.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Peter Nelson" 
> <peter@s...> wrote:
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jim Gizzi" 
> > <jim@h...> wrote:
> > > OK, I know I shouldn't have and did it anyway.  I downloaded 
and 

> > installed
> > > the new Epson 2200 driver.  I was hoping it would fix my #1 
> > complaint of
> > > cropping borderless prints, it didn't.  It also removed the 
> > photorealistic
> > > setting that used to be there and was invaluable for making 
> decent 
> > B/W
> > > prints.
> > 
> > They have a new driver and it REMOVES a feature???
> > 
> > What OS is this for?
> > 
> > Does anyone else know anything about what Jim is talking about?