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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Optimum resolution for inkjets

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Optimum resolution for inkjets

2003-10-14 by Colorado Light

That's not interpolation, it's just that a printer uses more than one dpi to
make a ppi.  Your print still has just 220 ppi.
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mark Hahn" <markhahn2000@...>

> I find that I generally need at minimu 220ppi original image data to
> get a good b&w print... with certain images and interpolation and
> processing I can sometimes get away with much less.  300ppi seems
> unquestionably good.  The Epson printer driver then interpolates up
> to 720 so there might be something to sticking to fractions of that
> or interpolating up to 720... but in the casual experiments I've done
> using different interpolation schemes I have't seen any *real*
> improvement which makes it worth the time (do the math... you can end
> up with some huge files)... but others disagree.
>
> mark



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[Digital BW] Re: Optimum resolution for inkjets

2003-10-14 by Mark Hahn

wouldn't that be called "nearest neighbor interpolation" :)

mark

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Colorado Light" 
<coloradolight@w...> wrote:
> That's not interpolation, it's just that a printer uses more than 
one dpi to
> make a ppi.  Your print still has just 220 ppi.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Mark Hahn" <markhahn2000@y...>
> 
> > I find that I generally need at minimu 220ppi original image data 
to
> > get a good b&w print... with certain images and interpolation and
> > processing I can sometimes get away with much less.  300ppi seems
> > unquestionably good.  The Epson printer driver then interpolates 
up
> > to 720 so there might be something to sticking to fractions of 
that
> > or interpolating up to 720... but in the casual experiments I've 
done
> > using different interpolation schemes I have't seen any *real*
> > improvement which makes it worth the time (do the math... you can 
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> > up with some huge files)... but others disagree.
> >
> > mark
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] Re: Optimum resolution for inkjets

2003-10-14 by Austin Franklin

Hi Mark,

The conversion from PPI to DPI is called dithering, or halftoning...not
interpolation.  In the process of dithering, it may very well use
interpolation as part of the pixel to dot conversion.  At least with the
Epson driver it does, where, as you state, it interpolates the NPPI to
720PPI (at least for the "desktop" printers), and then derives it's dither
from the 720PPI data.

Regards,

Austin
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> wouldn't that be called "nearest neighbor interpolation" :)
>
> mark
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Colorado Light"
> <coloradolight@w...> wrote:
> > That's not interpolation, it's just that a printer uses more than
> one dpi to
> > make a ppi.  Your print still has just 220 ppi.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Hahn" <markhahn2000@y...>
> >
> > > I find that I generally need at minimu 220ppi original image data
> to
> > > get a good b&w print... with certain images and interpolation and
> > > processing I can sometimes get away with much less.  300ppi seems
> > > unquestionably good.  The Epson printer driver then interpolates
> up
> > > to 720 so there might be something to sticking to fractions of
> that
> > > or interpolating up to 720... but in the casual experiments I've
> done
> > > using different interpolation schemes I have't seen any *real*
> > > improvement which makes it worth the time (do the math... you can
> end
> > > up with some huge files)... but others disagree.
> > >
> > > mark

Re: [Digital BW] Re: Optimum resolution for inkjets

2003-10-18 by Bob Frost

Michael,

According to Epson, the wide-format printers up/downsample to 360 ppi before
dithering, and the desktop printers up/downsample to 720 ppi.

Bob Frost.
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From: "J Michael Sullivan" <michael@...>
>
> All things being equal, epson uses a custom stochastic dithering algorithm
that is
> likely based on "something" in the neighborhood of 360dpi as its base from
which to
> derive the dither. Send any more than that to the printer and the data is
certainly
> DOWNSAMPLED by the printer. The test above more or less proves this. Stick
with
> something in the neighborhood of 360 spi and you can't go wrong.

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