>
> From: "Stephen Kobrin" <skobrin@...>
> Date: 2003/10/27 Mon PM 01:26:10 EST
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 1280 vs. 2200 question
>
> Thanks Alan,
>
> I just called MIS and was told that with pigment-based inks you have
> to print every day to avoid clogs. I am not sure that I want to get
> into that, even if it means just doing a nozzle check. However, I
> was also told that the 2200 Epson inks are pigment rather than dye
> based and thus the 2200 is more prone to clogs than the dye based
> printers such as the 1280.
>
> Have you had clogging problems with the 2200? For those of us who do
> limited amounts of printing and use prefilled carts, I am not sure
> the per-print costs will be that much higher, without even taking
> into account the ink wasted in cleaning cycles and the Epson carts
> required as a "last resort." On the other hand, $1000 plus is a lot
> to lay out.
>
> Steve
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com,
> <Alan.Huntley@c...> wrote:
> > Hi Steve,
> >
> > I wouldn't call myself a "regular" printer, either, but over the
> years it seems that I've had less clogging problems with Epson inks.
> I have used the original Piezo inks (bad clogs!), my own custom blend
> consisting of MIS inks and Generations color inks, the original MIS
> VM inks, and, most recently, the MIS UT inks. Oh, I forgot, somewhere
> in there I played around with the newer PiezoTone inks, too.
> >
> > About 2 weeks ago, I was kind of where I think you are...I had an
> Epson 2200 that I used for color printing and an Epson 1160 loaded
> with UT inks. After spending nearly 3 hours and a new set of Epson
> cartridges on my umpteenth tremendous head clog, I informed my wife
> that I didn't care how much ImagePrint cost I was buying it. Well...I
> do care about the cost, but you get the point! ;>)
> >
> > Color printing "out of the box" is fantastic...I like IP's
> rendering of blues (for example, sky) much better than the Epson
> driver and profiles, shadow areas appear more "open", and, in
> general, the color of the prints look more like what I remember in
> the original scene. For instance, if you've ever photographed the
> orange sand dunes in Monument Valley you'll know exactly what I'm
> talking about. I'm still playing with grayscale...I didn't realize
> until yesterday that a custom dot gain curve or curves adjustment
> layer is required in PS in order for a B&W print to match what's seen
> on the screen in PS. I had done this very thing several years ago
> with Piezo, but just forgot about it.
> >
> > Anyway, my 2 cents worth......
> >
> > Alan Huntley
> >
> > >
> > > From: "Stephen Kobrin" <skobrin@h...>
> > > Date: 2003/10/26 Sun PM 09:34:23 EST
> > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Digital BW] 1280 vs. 2200 question
> > >
> > > Am I correct that with a 2200 and some additional software (a
> RIP)
> > > that I can get reasonable B&W prints with Epson inks? I do not
> print
> > > frequently (3 or 4 prints a week on average) and the clogs, clots
> and
> > > cleaning cycles are driving me nuts. I do this for fun and, at
> least
> > > tonight, it is not. I am very pleased with what I am doing not
> and
> > > if I could get prints that are equal to what I get now with an
> Epson
> > > 1200 and MIS VM inks without the problems, I would switch in a
> > > minute. I have a 1280 I use for color and selling that and using
> a
> > > 2200 for both seems attractive. The other alternative is to
> convert
> > > the 1280 to B&W ultrachromes and buy a small printer for the
> little
> > > color I do -- mostly family pictures. However, I am not sure
> that
> > > would solve the clog problem given that I print infrequently.
> > >
> > > Steve
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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