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one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Tony Caltabiano

Hello group,
I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been doing
giclees for a 
client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.  
His smallest prints 
are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although giclee
is his main 
medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the same
sizes in silver 
and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would prefer
not to have 
giclees.  
On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
imagesetter negs 
made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
9600.  I have 
Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
process nailed 
down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
darkroom side of 
things.
He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I am a
fine art 
photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
darkroom.  I am 
not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never even
touched platinum.

I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
do anything bigger 
than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
having trouble being 
able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
doing it myself.  

Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer me
any ideas of 
where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
printing 24x30's and 
larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Thanks in advance for guidance.

Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio
www.higherplacestudio.com

RE: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Martin Wesley

* -----Original Message-----
* From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@...] 
* Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:24 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and 
* platinum - big
* 
* 
(snip earlier)
* 
* Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing 
* offer me any ideas of 
* where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that 
* printing 24x30's and 
* larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Tony,

I have not done it myself but Ansel Adams described his procedures in his
book "The Print" pages 173 - 182. Not routine but people have been doing
this for a long time.

Martin Wesley
http://www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html

RE: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Tom Baker

There is a HUGE difference in paltinum and silver.  You're not thinking there similar, are you?  
 
Tom Baker

Martin Wesley <mwesley250@...> wrote:
* -----Original Message-----
* From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@...] 
* Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 8:24 PM
* To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
* Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and 
* platinum - big
* 
* 
(snip earlier)
* 
* Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing 
* offer me any ideas of 
* where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that 
* printing 24x30's and 
* larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Tony,

I have not done it myself but Ansel Adams described his procedures in his
book "The Print" pages 173 - 182. Not routine but people have been doing
this for a long time.

Martin Wesley
http://www.carolyn.cc/Guests/MartinWesley/pages/MW_01.html
http://www.borderless-photos.de/guests.html




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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Tom Baker

You're right about the larger sizes.  I've got 40 years of darkroom experience.  I find that anything of 16x20, even with the right equipment, is a major undertaking.  You can process in trays or drums, but no matter, big prints are demanding.  Also, consider the cost of a single blown print.  I don't know if there are still labs to do it, but I saw, as recently as 5 years ago, silver prints up to about 10 feet.  They were incredibly expensive.  But, beautiful.  I think they were in the $1000 dollar range, but I'm not sure.
 
Personally, I would not undertake making large prints again in a darkroom even if they gave me the darkroom when all was done.  What would one do with a darkroom now.  Unless, of course you would like to be one of the few people in the world doing that type of printing.  Maybe there's still money to be made there.  
 
I have never seen a 30x40 platinum print.  I suppose someone does that sort of thing, but it would be highly unlikely that a commercial lab would do it.

Tony Caltabiano <calpen1@...> wrote:
Hello group,
I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been doing
giclees for a 
client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.  
His smallest prints 
are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although giclee
is his main 
medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the same
sizes in silver 
and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would prefer
not to have 
giclees.  
On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
imagesetter negs 
made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
9600.  I have 
Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
process nailed 
down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
darkroom side of 
things.
He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I am a
fine art 
photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
darkroom.  I am 
not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never even
touched platinum.

I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
do anything bigger 
than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
having trouble being 
able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
doing it myself.  

Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer me
any ideas of 
where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
printing 24x30's and 
larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Thanks in advance for guidance.

Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio
www.higherplacestudio.com


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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by deandadin@aol.com

Hello, My name is steve and I own Silverworks Lab in Santa Monica. I 
specialize in B&W printing. If you have questions my phone # is 310-392-1972 in 
California. I am open Mon-Fri 9am-6 pm. Regards Steve Cohen owner Silverworks.


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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by BMercerTX@aol.com

In a message dated 11/9/2003 12:11:15 AM Central Standard Time, 
tbaker1328@... writes:

> I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
> do anything bigger 
> than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
> having trouble being 
> able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
> doing it myself.  
> 

The learning curve on making digital negs for contact printing AND the 
learning curve on making platinum prints is big.  Actually you would need a very 
specialized contact printer and light box to make them.  I would call Bostick and 
Sullivan in Santa Fe and see if they can recommend someone who has the 
knowledge and equipment.  Or contact Dan Burkholder on the web.  His address is in 
his book or go to google.  
Billie 


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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Loris Medici

Hi Tony,
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: <BMercerTX@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum -
big


> In a message dated 11/9/2003 12:11:15 AM Central Standard Time,
> tbaker1328@... writes:
>
> > I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
> > do anything bigger
> > than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
> > having trouble being
> > able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
> > doing it myself.
> >
>
> The learning curve on making digital negs for contact printing AND the
> learning curve on making platinum prints is big.  Actually you would need
a very
> specialized contact printer and light box to make them.

I second the above paragraph word by word... You need a very specialized UV
contact printer equipped with a vacuum frame. See
http://www.eepjon.com/uv.htm for more information.

> I would call Bostick and
> Sullivan in Santa Fe and see if they can recommend someone who has the
> knowledge and equipment.  Or contact Dan Burkholder on the web.

... or visit the Alt-Photo-Process mail archive
(http://www.usask.ca/lists/alt-photo-process/) and seach there. Better, you
can join the list and ask questions directly to the very knowledgeable
"gurus" there. I just started alternative processes and the folks there are
very helpful. I'm very grateful to them.

I suspect you will not be able to print digital negatives for contact
printing from an 40" wide Epson because I know no suitable transparency
material at that size (I guess 30x40 is "bigger-than-huge" in platinum
printing)!!! (The "industry standard" for this purpose is Pictorico OHP
transparency film and this is available up to 13x19" sheets).

Regards,
Loris.

RE: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-09 by Ken Carney

Tony, presumably your client is getting the digital file for inkjet printing
by scanning the plate.  You may be able to have a scan output to a film neg
suitable for enlarging (not imagesetter) - say an 8x10" neg that could be
enlarged using conventional darkroom gear.  Writing to 4x5" negs is fairly
common, but don't know about larger.  Of course, you'll probably shoot
yourself after trying to handle heavy fiber paper that large in
chemistry...but it can be done.  However, turning to pt/pd you may have a
real challenge.  I personally have never seen a pt/pd print larger than
20x24 image size, but they're probably out there.  If anyone would know how,
these are the people who would:

Dick Sullivan http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/

David Kennedy http://www.davidmichaelkennedy.com/

Tom Millea http://www.tommillea.com/

Sounds interesting.  Maybe you could let the group know where the prints
could be seen.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:24 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum -
big


Hello group,
I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been doing
giclees for a
client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.
His smallest prints
are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although giclee
is his main
medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the same
sizes in silver
and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would prefer
not to have
giclees.
On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
imagesetter negs
made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
9600.  I have
Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
process nailed
down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
darkroom side of
things.
He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I am a
fine art
photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
darkroom.  I am
not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never even
touched platinum.

I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
do anything bigger
than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
having trouble being
able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
doing it myself.

Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer me
any ideas of
where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
printing 24x30's and
larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Thanks in advance for guidance.

Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio
www.higherplacestudio.com



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RE: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-10 by Ken Carney

Further to my earlier reply - I was browsing magazines this p.m.(View
Camera) and see that Durst makes LF enlargers (8x10 and 11x14 neg) that have
a 91" column and up to a 40x50" baseboard.  That should do it if you can get
a neg of that size that is for enlarging.  I have not worked with wet plate
(ether tends to make me drift off after a while) but if the plate is 11x14
or smaller you may be able to contact print a negative.  Of course, then
Photoshop is out of the equation.  The preceding is of course for silver.  I
have made a number of enlarged negs for pt/pd -- I think you will have a
new-found appreciation for your 9600.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@...]
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:24 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum -
big


Hello group,
I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been doing
giclees for a
client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.
His smallest prints
are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although giclee
is his main
medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the same
sizes in silver
and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would prefer
not to have
giclees.
On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
imagesetter negs
made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
9600.  I have
Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
process nailed
down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
darkroom side of
things.
He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I am a
fine art
photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
darkroom.  I am
not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never even
touched platinum.

I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
do anything bigger
than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
having trouble being
able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
doing it myself.

Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer me
any ideas of
where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
printing 24x30's and
larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?

Thanks in advance for guidance.

Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio
www.higherplacestudio.com



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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-10 by Tony Caltabiano

To Ken and everyone else who responded on and offlist - thank you for the input, the 
leads and the links.  I still have found nobody who can print 30x40 silver or platinum, 
for hire, and after many talks with my client, using his resources, I am sort of excited 
to try this myself.  It does seem like an opportunity of a lifetime to be funded to try to 
do this.  I may succeed, or I may fail, but I am given the chance to give it a shot.  I will 
keep the group posted on how it goes, for those who are interested.

Tony

Tony Caltabiano
Higher Place Studio
www.higherplacestudio.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" 
<kcarney1@c...> wrote:
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> Tony, presumably your client is getting the digital file for inkjet printing
> by scanning the plate.  You may be able to have a scan output to a film neg
> suitable for enlarging (not imagesetter) - say an 8x10" neg that could be
> enlarged using conventional darkroom gear.  Writing to 4x5" negs is fairly
> common, but don't know about larger.  Of course, you'll probably shoot
> yourself after trying to handle heavy fiber paper that large in
> chemistry...but it can be done.  However, turning to pt/pd you may have a
> real challenge.  I personally have never seen a pt/pd print larger than
> 20x24 image size, but they're probably out there.  If anyone would know how,
> these are the people who would:
> 
> Dick Sullivan http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/
> 
> David Kennedy http://www.davidmichaelkennedy.com/
> 
> Tom Millea http://www.tommillea.com/
> 
> Sounds interesting.  Maybe you could let the group know where the prints
> could be seen.
> 
> Regards,
> 
>   --Ken Carney
>     www.kencarney.com
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@d...]
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:24 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum -
> big
> 
> 
> Hello group,
> I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been doing
> giclees for a
> client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.
> His smallest prints
> are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although giclee
> is his main
> medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the same
> sizes in silver
> and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would prefer
> not to have
> giclees.
> On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
> imagesetter negs
> made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
> 9600.  I have
> Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
> process nailed
> down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
> darkroom side of
> things.
> He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I am a
> fine art
> photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
> darkroom.  I am
> not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never even
> touched platinum.
> 
> I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who can
> do anything bigger
> than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
> having trouble being
> able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my head
> doing it myself.
> 
> Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer me
> any ideas of
> where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
> printing 24x30's and
> larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?
> 
> Thanks in advance for guidance.
> 
> Tony
> 
> Tony Caltabiano
> Higher Place Studio
> www.higherplacestudio.com
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls and
> other resources as they are often being updated. The page is at:
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
> 
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> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-10 by photographs42

Tony,
I haven't followed this thread so you may already have learned what I 
am about to offer but here is my 2 cents worth.

I do traditional silver prints up to 28x40 on a regular basis. I have 
a large sink, but I process anything larger than 20x24 in a tube. 
Actually it is a piece of 10" plastic sewer pipe. The tube needs to 
be at least 2" longer than the longest print size because fiber paper 
expands that much when it gets wet. The sink needs to be about 2 1/2 
times the length of the print. Mine is 10' long. I use 4x5 & 5x7 negs.

L.A. has to have a shop that can make a 4x5 or 8x10 neg. from your 
digital file. I have tried this and the main problem is that the neg. 
is on color film and the grain structure is not the same as silver 
neg. grain. My Zone VI enlarger takes up to 5x7. I have a neg. made 
on 8x10 film with a 5x7 image area that I have printed up to 24x30. 
To my eye it falls apart around 20x24. The original is 4x5 Tri-x and 
I can go up to 28x40 with no problem from the original but the 
color "grain" structure of the digital neg. is too pronounced beyond 
20x24.

If you would like to know more about any of this you may contact me 
off list at jerome@... 
Jerome

http://www.jeromehawkins.com/


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tony 
Caltabiano" <calpen1@d...> wrote:
> To Ken and everyone else who responded on and offlist - thank you 
for the input, the 
> leads and the links.  I still have found nobody who can print 30x40 
silver or platinum, 
> for hire, and after many talks with my client, using his resources, 
I am sort of excited 
> to try this myself.  It does seem like an opportunity of a lifetime 
to be funded to try to 
> do this.  I may succeed, or I may fail, but I am given the chance 
to give it a shot.  I will 
> keep the group posted on how it goes, for those who are interested.
> 
> Tony
> 
> Tony Caltabiano
> Higher Place Studio
> www.higherplacestudio.com
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Carney" 
> <kcarney1@c...> wrote:
> > Tony, presumably your client is getting the digital file for 
inkjet printing
> > by scanning the plate.  You may be able to have a scan output to 
a film neg
> > suitable for enlarging (not imagesetter) - say an 8x10" neg that 
could be
> > enlarged using conventional darkroom gear.  Writing to 4x5" negs 
is fairly
> > common, but don't know about larger.  Of course, you'll probably 
shoot
> > yourself after trying to handle heavy fiber paper that large in
> > chemistry...but it can be done.  However, turning to pt/pd you 
may have a
> > real challenge.  I personally have never seen a pt/pd print 
larger than
> > 20x24 image size, but they're probably out there.  If anyone 
would know how,
> > these are the people who would:
> > 
> > Dick Sullivan http://www.bostick-sullivan.com/
> > 
> > David Kennedy http://www.davidmichaelkennedy.com/
> > 
> > Tom Millea http://www.tommillea.com/
> > 
> > Sounds interesting.  Maybe you could let the group know where the 
prints
> > could be seen.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> >   --Ken Carney
> >     www.kencarney.com
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Tony Caltabiano [mailto:calpen1@d...]
> > Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:24 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and 
platinum -
> > big
> > 
> > 
> > Hello group,
> > I hope the collective wisdom here can help me out.  I have been 
doing
> > giclees for a
> > client for quite awhile now who does fine art wet plate collodion.
> > His smallest prints
> > are 16x20 - and are up to 30x40.  He has decided that although 
giclee
> > is his main
> > medium, he would also like to have the same images printed the 
same
> > sizes in silver
> > and platinum/paladium for the customers/galleries that would 
prefer
> > not to have
> > giclees.
> > On the digital end I know this would pretty much involve getting
> > imagesetter negs
> > made really big for contact printing/make negs myself on the Epson
> > 9600.  I have
> > Burkholder's book, and I am confident that I could get that whole
> > process nailed
> > down.  But I am seriously at a loss on how to handle this on the
> > darkroom side of
> > things.
> > He has already arranged to BUILD me a darkroom nearby.  While I 
am a
> > fine art
> > photog myself, I send everything through the epson 9600, not the
> > darkroom.  I am
> > not very skilled at printing the traditional way, and have never 
even
> > touched platinum.
> > 
> > I live just outside of Los Angeles, and I can't find a BW lab who 
can
> > do anything bigger
> > than 20x24.  Platinum printers are hard to find, period.  So I am
> > having trouble being
> > able to outsource it, and I am feeling like I am in way over my 
head
> > doing it myself.
> > 
> > Can anyone with experience with the larger side of printing offer 
me
> > any ideas of
> > where to turn, or what books to look at?  I would assume that
> > printing 24x30's and
> > larger to hang on gallery walls is not an easy undertaking?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance for guidance.
> > 
> > Tony
> > 
> > Tony Caltabiano
> > Higher Place Studio
> > www.higherplacestudio.com
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Re: [Digital BW] one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-11 by sdmey4@aol.com

Tony, try this guy
Stan Klimek Studio in Arizona. He is a commercial platinum printer for hire.
<A HREF="www.stanklimek.studio">www.stanklimekstudio</A> .com
Call him, don't e-mail him.
Let us know what he has to say. If he can't do it himself he may very well 
know someone who can. Worth a shot.
Steve Meyers

In a message dated 11/10/2003 7:28:45 PM Pacific Standard Time, 
calpen1@... writes:

> To Ken and everyone else who responded on and offlist - thank you for the 
> input, the 
> leads and the links.  I still have found nobody who can print 30x40 silver 
> or platinum, 
> for hire, and after many talks with my client, using his resources, I am 
> sort of excited 
> to try this myself.  It does seem like an opportunity of a lifetime to be 
> funded to try to 
> do this.  I may succeed, or I may fail, but I am given the chance to give it 
> a shot.  I will 
> keep the group posted on how it goes, for those who are interested.
> 
> Tony
> 
> Tony Caltabiano
> Higher Place Studio
> www.higherplacestudio.com
> 
> 



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Re: one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-11 by sandersm@aol.com

I find it difficult to believe that there are no labs in LA that print silver 
gelatin bigger than 20x24 or 24x30.   I've yet to find a lab in NYC that does 
not offer 40" prints.   The obvious place to use, if you're doing this by 
mail, is Duggal, www.duggal.com.   Their site says they print up to 50x144 on b+w 
paper, and to 72x144 on color paper.   Their B+W printer, Jim Braden, is 
absolutely first-rate -- he's printed for me at 30x30 on Ilford fiber and the 
results were stunning.   I don't know if Jim's able to print in platinum, but 
Duggal has never said no to anything I've asked them to do for me -- worth a try.

Sanders McNew
www.mcnew.net


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Re: one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-12 by bruce greene

On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 04:47 PM, 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:

> Message: 3
>    Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:50:07 -0500
>    From: "kenschuster" <ken.schuster@...>
> Subject: Re: Re: one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big
>
> There was a lab on Melrose, near Fairfax, close to CBS, that printed 
> wall size.
> A couple of decades ago, they printed a 5X7 (feet!) for me that was 
> much
> better quality than I had expected from my 4x5" neg. Beats the heck 
> outa
> me what it was called. Could be "Blow-up," or "Bobs Blow-up," or 
> something
> like that. Last time I drove by was more than five years ago, and they 
> were
> still
> there and looked prosperous.
>
I believe it was on Beverly Blvd. Across from CBS. I'm sorry that I 
can't recall the name, and it's not in my computer address book.

I think that they closed or moved years ago. I had made some life size 
blow-ups there in the mid 80's.
I think you are right though, that "Blow-Up" was in the name somewhere.

Ah, but a thought just came to me!  The movie studios sometimes make 
very, very large blow ups for cityscapes for sets.  I think they are 
called "Translux" Or Trans-lux or Trans-luxe.
I believe they are made from 8x10 negs or chromes, and printed onto 
very large rolls of translucent plastic "photo paper".  They are quite 
neat to see up close. Try calling the Universal Studios Scene Dock and 
ask them where they get these made. I think that they are sewn together 
by a company that makes movie theater screens. Also, try calling Kodak. 
Can't be too many customers buying fiber paper in these large sizes.

Re: one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big

2003-11-12 by mxgo95747

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, bruce greene <
bagreene@v...> wrote:
> 
> On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 04:47 PM, 
> DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com wrote:
> 
> > Message: 3
> >    Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 14:50:07 -0500
> >    From: "kenschuster" <ken.schuster@a...>
> > Subject: Re: Re: one of my customers wants silver and platinum - big
> 


Cox black & White Lab (www.coxblackand whitelab.com) in Rancho Cordova, 
California does fiber base printing (on warm or cold tone papers) with 
selenium and a bunch of other tonings in sizes from 3" by 5" up to 48" by 96".  
However, I do not think they do silver or platinum.

Martin

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