Digital BW, The Print

I know this is a stupid technical question but ....I am Windows 2000Pro OS.  
I have a paper profile that I want to use thru the Epson driver.  Where do I 
put the profile?
Billie


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> From: BMercerTX@... [mailto:BMercerTX@...]
>
> I know this is a stupid technical question but ....I am Windows
> 2000Pro OS.
> I have a paper profile that I want to use thru the Epson driver.
> Where do I put the profile?

Right-click it, and select Install. That will copy it into the correct
folder, and list it in the registry so that apps can find it.

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Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Billie,
The ICC profiles in W2K are by defult in
C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\color
Martin Glader

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Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2003 2:51 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] profile question


> I know this is a stupid technical question but ....I am Windows 2000Pro
OS.
> I have a paper profile that I want to use thru the Epson driver.  Where do
I
> put the profile?
> Billie
>
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Hi Martin,

Is there an editor for the ICQ paper profiles ???
From my limited tests with the ones used by the
Piezography software, the EAM is very smooth - 
other paper profiles have some major gradient
step changes. I'd like to tweak the EAM profile
to expand the very last few % of the K end of the
scale...

Thanks,
Alex

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Glader" 
<martin.glader@k...> wrote:

> Billie,
> The ICC profiles in W2K are by defult in
> C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\color
> Martin Glader
>

In a message dated 11/10/2003 2:29:34 AM Central Standard Time, 
martin.glader@... writes:

> The ICC profiles in W2K are by defult in
> C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\color
> Martin Glader

Martin,
Thanks but when I just copy them into that folder they are in the folder but 
do not show up in my pull down menu, so how do you access them for soft 
proofing? I've had to right click them and install so that they end up where I can 
choose one. Is that the right way?
Along those same lines.  When you go to print an RGB file on the Epson 2200
Set the source to the profile
The print space to:  Printer management?  or ????
Then the screen where you set the paper type do you set the mode for ICM 
under the Mode section, then to advanced and set color management to ICM.
Do you still choose one of the Epson mediatypes?
I'm really fuzzy on how to do this.
I apologize that this is probably not the appropriate group to ask this 
question but there are so many knowledgeable people in this group.  So if any one 
can clear this up for me I would appreciate it.
Billie


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> From: BMercerTX@... [mailto:BMercerTX@...]
>
> When you go to print an RGB file on the Epson 2200
> Set the source to the profile
> The print space to:  Printer management?  or ????
> Then the screen where you set the paper type do you set the mode for ICM
> under the Mode section, then to advanced and set color management to ICM.
> Do you still choose one of the Epson mediatypes?
> I'm really fuzzy on how to do this.
> I apologize that this is probably not the appropriate group to ask this
> question but there are so many knowledgeable people in this
> group.  So if any one
> can clear this up for me I would appreciate it.

Two choices:

1) Select Printer Color Management in PS, then select ICM and the profile in
the driver.

2) Select the profile in PS, then select ICM and No Color Adjustment in the
driver.

In both cases, the source space must be Document.

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Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Alex,
I have never had the need to edit the ICQ profiles so I wouldn't know. I'm
using the Cone driver with the paper profiles supplied with the software and
then fine-tune the monitor preview for each particular paper with custom dot
gain curves. I'm mostly using Hahnem\ufffdhle Photo Rag though. The method is
also described in the Piezography manual.
Martin Glader

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From: "B. Alex Pettit Jr." <a_pettit_jr@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2003 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] profile question


> Hi Martin,
>
> Is there an editor for the ICQ paper profiles ???
> From my limited tests with the ones used by the
> Piezography software, the EAM is very smooth -
> other paper profiles have some major gradient
> step changes. I'd like to tweak the EAM profile
> to expand the very last few % of the K end of the
> scale...
>
> Thanks,
> Alex
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Martin Glader"
> <martin.glader@k...> wrote:
> > Billie,
> > The ICC profiles in W2K are by defult in
> > C:\WINNT\system32\spool\drivers\color
> > Martin Glader
> >
>
>
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hello,
  When I download the profiles for the epson papers, or any papers for that matter, how do I get them from the file I load them to either the QTR or the epson printer page. 
   
  I educated my self on profiles thru several articles being I didn' t get a response on my post as to learning profiles,  but nowhere was it mentioned as to how they get from one place to the other so they can be used. 
   
  thanks
  Frank
   
   


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Frank, I did not see you mention your OS; MAC, PC? Color Sync or
C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\COLOR And Vista is different?   You can
right click and "install" profiles and depending on some applications you
need to do that. I set up a shortcut on my desktop so I don't need to
navigate to the color profile folder on the Windows XP systems. 

 

You can save them directly to that folder or save to a different download
folder for profiles and then copy or install them.  I like to keep them in a
separate download folder with subfolders for supplier; Red River, Cranes,
Epson, Innova, etc. You can also keep the ones you make separate. It might
help down the line when you need to reload them or update them. 

 

Eric 

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

Skype ejprinter

  _____  

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Frank Jay
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:47 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] profile question

 

hello,
When I download the profiles for the epson papers, or any papers for that
matter, how do I get them from the file I load them to either the QTR or the
epson printer page. 

I educated my self on profiles thru several articles being I didn' t get a
response on my post as to learning profiles, but nowhere was it mentioned as
to how they get from one place to the other so they can be used. 

thanks
Frank



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thanks
I have windows XP Media. I also have them in a separate folder 
called "profiles". What I do, from what you said, is find the 
profile>click install and they will install. Do I direct them to 
install someplace or do they just install on their own to the epson 
drivers. 
thanks for the help
Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Frank, I did not see you mention your OS; MAC, PC? Color Sync or
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\COLOR And Vista is different?   
You can
> right click and "install" profiles and depending on some 
applications you
> need to do that. I set up a shortcut on my desktop so I don't need 
to
> navigate to the color profile folder on the Windows XP systems. 
> 
>  
> 
> You can save them directly to that folder or save to a different 
download
> folder for profiles and then copy or install them.  I like to keep 
them in a
> separate download folder with subfolders for supplier; Red River, 
Cranes,
> Epson, Innova, etc. You can also keep the ones you make separate. 
It might
> help down the line when you need to reload them or update them. 
> 
>  
> 
> Eric 
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street
> 
> Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
> 
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> Skype ejprinter
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Jay
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:47 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] profile question
> 
>  
> 
> hello,
> When I download the profiles for the epson papers, or any papers 
for that
> matter, how do I get them from the file I load them to either the 
QTR or the
> epson printer page. 
> 
> I educated my self on profiles thru several articles being I didn' 
t get a
> response on my post as to learning profiles, but nowhere was it 
mentioned as
> to how they get from one place to the other so they can be used. 
> 
> thanks
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> "The luckiest dogs are those with clipped tails....they're the ones 
who

> won't be chasing their own arses."
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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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>  
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Frank, Right click on them, you may need to click one at a time, and select
install. That should put them in your XP color folder where they will be
seen by ICC compliant programs. Lightroom for one, was one of those programs
that required an "install" rather than just dropping it in the Color folder.
The settings that you want for the driver will have all those great Epson
names SP3800, or SPW 4800, stuff like that and those will tell the driver
how much ink to use and those are set in the properties tab in the driver.
Depending on the OS and printer you may want to make one a default or allow
the driver to select  auto. 

 

Eric

 

Eric Neilsen Photography

4101 Commerce Street

Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

http://e.neilsen.home.att.net

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

Skype ejprinter

  _____  

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
frankjay02
Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:00 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] profile question

 

thanks
I have windows XP Media. I also have them in a separate folder 
called "profiles". What I do, from what you said, is find the 
profile>click install and they will install. Do I direct them to 
install someplace or do they just install on their own to the epson 
drivers. 
thanks for the help
Frank

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Frank, I did not see you mention your OS; MAC, PC? Color Sync or
> C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\COLOR And Vista is different? 
You can
> right click and "install" profiles and depending on some 
applications you
> need to do that. I set up a shortcut on my desktop so I don't need 
to
> navigate to the color profile folder on the Windows XP systems. 
> 
> 
> 
> You can save them directly to that folder or save to a different 
download
> folder for profiles and then copy or install them. I like to keep 
them in a
> separate download folder with subfolders for supplier; Red River, 
Cranes,
> Epson, Innova, etc. You can also keep the ones you make separate. 
It might
> help down the line when you need to reload them or update them. 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric 
> 
> 
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street
> 
> Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> http://e.neilsen. <http://e.neilsen.home.att.net> home.att.net
> 
> http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> hotography.com
> 
> Skype ejprinter
> 
> _____ 
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
Frank Jay
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:47 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] profile question
> 
> 
> 
> hello,
> When I download the profiles for the epson papers, or any papers 
for that
> matter, how do I get them from the file I load them to either the 
QTR or the
> epson printer page. 
> 
> I educated my self on profiles thru several articles being I didn' 
t get a
> response on my post as to learning profiles, but nowhere was it 
mentioned as
> to how they get from one place to the other so they can be used. 
> 
> thanks
> Frank
> 
> 
> 
> "The luckiest dogs are those with clipped tails....they're the ones 
who
> won't be chasing their own arses."
> __________________________________________________
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> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
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well Eric and all, 
This is what I did
I downloaded the profiles from the Epson site.
They went right to my desktop and I had no control to put it in that 
Windows/32/Color etc, folder
I right clicked them
.nothing that said install.
I clicked them
they unzipped and again I could not put them in that 
Windows/32/Color etc folder. The fine art profile  went into 
C:\epson\epson12364_r1800_icc_profiles_fine_art, and the other 
profiles went into similarly named folders.
NOW to CS2
I go to Print with Preview and chose
Let PS determine 
colors
Went to PRINT
Went to PROPERTIES
Went to ADVANCED
Another screen
choose PRESENTATION MATTE as my paper
Is THIS a profile???? I have been doing this for 5 years.
BUT, 
If I go to ICM I do see in the last box
Printer Profiles and the 
paper listed as
SPR1800 Photo Qlty IJP
If I click off ICM I have choices for Epson Vivid, Epson Standard, 
or Adobe RGB. 
What do I do here. Do I do anything here? Why didn't the profiles go 
to the desktop and not that special Windows32/Drivers etc etc. 

I am very very confused here folks. I get directions from people, 
follow them and what I am directed to do doesn't work as it does for 
others. There is NO book for this, NO manual, nothing. How are 
people supposed to know what to do


I really don't want to buy another book just to learn profiles. I 
have been printing from lower end printers for years, have sold many 
many 8x10's and 11x14's and have been doing photography for almost 
40 years and owned my own studio and custom black and white lab, 
and. I have NEVER found anything that is supposed to be SO important 
to have so little resources as to how utilize them (profiles).
Thakns for the help, any more help to get me out of this quagmire 
will be appreciated.

Frank
and if I can ever get the QTR to show up and work, I will be doubly 
happy.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
<e.neilsen2@...> wrote:
>
> Frank, Right click on them, you may need to click one at a time, 
and select
> install. That should put them in your XP color folder where they 
will be
> seen by ICC compliant programs. Lightroom for one, was one of 
those programs
> that required an "install" rather than just dropping it in the 
Color folder.
> The settings that you want for the driver will have all those 
great Epson
> names SP3800, or SPW 4800, stuff like that and those will tell the 
driver
> how much ink to use and those are set in the properties tab in the 
driver.
> Depending on the OS and printer you may want to make one a default 
or allow
> the driver to select  auto. 
> 
>  
> 
> Eric
> 
>  
> 
> Eric Neilsen Photography
> 
> 4101 Commerce Street
> 
> Suite 9
> 
> Dallas, TX 75226
> 
> http://e.neilsen.home.att.net
> 
> http://ericneilsenphotography.com
> 
> Skype ejprinter
> 
>   _____  
> 
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> frankjay02
> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 10:00 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] profile question
> 
>  
> 
> thanks
> I have windows XP Media. I also have them in a separate folder 
> called "profiles". What I do, from what you said, is find the 
> profile>click install and they will install. Do I direct them to 
> install someplace or do they just install on their own to the 
epson 
> drivers. 
> thanks for the help
> Frank
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Eric Neilsen" 
> <e.neilsen2@> wrote:
> >
> > Frank, I did not see you mention your OS; MAC, PC? Color Sync or
> > C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\SPOOL\DRIVERS\COLOR And Vista is different? 
> You can
> > right click and "install" profiles and depending on some 
> applications you
> > need to do that. I set up a shortcut on my desktop so I don't 
need 
> to
> > navigate to the color profile folder on the Windows XP systems. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > You can save them directly to that folder or save to a different 
> download
> > folder for profiles and then copy or install them. I like to 
keep 
> them in a
> > separate download folder with subfolders for supplier; Red 
River, 
> Cranes,
> > Epson, Innova, etc. You can also keep the ones you make 
separate. 
> It might
> > help down the line when you need to reload them or update them. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Eric 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Eric Neilsen Photography
> > 
> > 4101 Commerce Street
> > 
> > Suite 9
> > 
> > Dallas, TX 75226
> > 
> > http://e.neilsen. <http://e.neilsen.home.att.net> home.att.net
> > 
> > http://ericneilsenp <http://ericneilsenphotography.com> 
hotography.com
> > 
> > Skype ejprinter
> > 
> > _____ 
> > 
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of 
> Frank Jay
> > Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 7:47 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhit
> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] profile question
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > hello,
> > When I download the profiles for the epson papers, or any papers 
> for that
> > matter, how do I get them from the file I load them to either 
the 
> QTR or the
> > epson printer page. 
> > 
> > I educated my self on profiles thru several articles being I 
didn' 
> t get a
> > response on my post as to learning profiles, but nowhere was it 
> mentioned as
> > to how they get from one place to the other so they can be used. 
> > 
> > thanks
> > Frank
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > "The luckiest dogs are those with clipped tails....they're the 
ones 
> who
> > won't be chasing their own arses."
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around 
> > http://mail. <http://mail. <http://mail.yahoo.com> yahoo.com> 
yahoo.com 

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