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2003-12-06 by BarbBrad1@aol.com
In a message dated 12/6/2003 3:07:14 PM Central Standard Time,
gmitchel850@... writes:
Don;t try clicking on it. Yahoo cuts part of it off.
Paste the URL into your browser.
The document is there.
Cheers,
Mitch
The link was not active so I copied and pasted. Still didn't get
it.
Barb
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-12-07 by Yume Grot
The same with me Yume Grot
----- Original Message -----
From: morganbaily2001
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:02 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting to B&W Tutorial
-Mitch...i tried to use your link and got a page not found
reply...is it me or the link...
Thanks
Rick Zeidman
www.morgan-baily.com
-- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Mitchell"
<gmitchel850@y...> wrote:
> I wrote a brief tutorial on using the Split Channels method for
> converting to B&W. You can find it here:
>
>
http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MCfSP49pMGBGYiXuWSttDAh32AntTC3_gTK1Uzsg
> EzplEPV15J56_CnxKWgtzMcqq-TpT1jnOgdmd6mbZgyR/Tutorials/Split%
20Your%
> 20Channels.pdf
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mitch
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-12-07 by Glenn Mitchell
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Yume Grot" <yum@p...> wrote: > The same with me > Yume Grot > ----- Original Message ----- > From: morganbaily2001 > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:02 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting to B&W Tutorial > It's you. The tutorial is there. Others are getting to it. Yahoo tends to wrap long URLs, breaking. Just try the URL to the folder. It's shorter. The tutorial is there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/ Cheers, Mitch
2003-12-07 by Yume Grot
Mitchell, I got to your tutorial, thank you. It is very clear and convincing. Yume Grot
----- Original Message -----
From: Glenn Mitchell
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 8:23 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting to B&W Tutorial
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Yume Grot"
<yum@p...> wrote:
> The same with me
> Yume Grot
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: morganbaily2001
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:02 PM
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting
to B&W Tutorial
>
It's you. The tutorial is there. Others are getting to it.
Yahoo tends to wrap long URLs, breaking.
Just try the URL to the folder. It's shorter. The tutorial is there.
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/
Cheers,
Mitch
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2003-12-07 by Jack M Kucy
No it's not. I cut and pasted solid link and there was no document. Jack Glenn Mitchell wrote: > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Yume Grot" > <yum@p...> wrote: > > The same with me > > Yume Grot > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: morganbaily2001 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:02 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting > to B&W Tutorial > > > > It's you. The tutorial is there. Others are getting to it. > > Yahoo tends to wrap long URLs, breaking. > > Just try the URL to the folder. It's shorter. The tutorial is there. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/ > > Cheers, > > Mitch > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > click here > <http://rd.yahoo.com/SIG=12c90g7lt/M=267637.4116732.5333197.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=1705019182:HM/EXP=1070846595/A=1853618/R=0/*http://www.netflix.com/Default?mqso=60178338&partid=4116732> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service > <http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/>. -- _________________________________________________ Jack M Kucy JMK Gallery (www.jmk-gallery.com) 917-991-2096 jmk@... Member of ASMP (www.asmp.org) _________________________________________________ ...a riveder le stelle [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2003-12-07 by Glenn Mitchell
I'm done trying to help. The old Chinese adage is correct. My good deed is definitely giving me lots of punishment and abuse right now. :( The document is where I posted the URL. Lots of people have downloaded it. Join the group, if you want to view the PDF. Goodness, you already have a Yahoo! Groups account. So adding another group, even for a few seconds to get the document is no big deal! ;) I try to do this group a service, and most of what I hear is whining about the URL being too long, being told the file is not there (which it definitely is), etc. I will not post my tutorials here or in other groups. When I sell it, I will have to pull it off the Web. In the interim, it will stay on sites under my control. It's my intellectual property. ;) I have e-mailed it or offered to e-mail to about a dozen people. I think I've done quite a bit to share information. Enough of the complaining and whining, please. In fact, I'm unsubscribing. The culture of this group is too bitchy and whiney for my tastes. I prefer groups where people are more appreciative. Au revoir, Mitch
2003-12-07 by Bernie Ess
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Mitchell" <gmitchel850@y...> wrote: > I'm done trying to help. (...) > In fact, I'm unsubscribing. The culture of this group is too bitchy > and whiney for my tastes. I prefer groups where people are more > appreciative. Helo, you can do whatever you want to of course, but if you post a tutorial, it would have been helpful to indicate that people must subscribe to the Canon group. When filling in the link into the browser there is an error message indeed, which is not very helpful. I think its always a good gesture to share work you have done - thats how this group is going - there is a lot of good work shared, like the printing curves, so it would be helpful to share it in a way everyone can appreciate it in an uncomplicated way. Bernhard
2003-12-07 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros-@...] > > Helo, you can do whatever you want to of course, but if you post a > tutorial, it would have been helpful to indicate that people must > subscribe to the Canon group. On top of that, it's not even the most popular Canon 10D group. The tutorial is posted in Canon10D, which was created last June, perhaps in response to dissatisfaction with the much bigger Canon-10D group, which was started last February. Why a B&W tutorial would be posted only in a Canon group, and not this B&W group is something I don't quite grasp. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2003-12-07 by Austin Franklin
Glenn, > Join the group, if you want to view the PDF. Goodness, you already > have a Yahoo! Groups account. So adding another group, even for a > few seconds to get the document is no big deal! ;) Of course, joining the Canon 10D group to get the document is no big deal...but knowing that one must do that in the first place can certainly cause some confusion. Also, once I figured out that I needed to subscribe to "a" Canon 10D Yahoo group...I had a choice of three or more Canon 10D groups to subscribe to! For me, even after joining the right group, the URL (cut & pasted complete) didn't work...but going there directly did. I don't think anyone is unappreciative of your efforts, but there were some issues with accessing this document that weren't apparent, or typical. At least to a dope like me, they weren't. I think you may be misperceiving people's enthusiasm for wanting to access your document. Anyway, thanks for writing up the tutorial. Regards, Austin
2003-12-07 by Jack M Kucy
The reason is simple IMHO. As much as I appreciate somebody's efforts to create the tutorial and so, I think that this way of drowing the number of people to this group (by the way created by Mitch as I understand) in hope that not everyone will unsubscribe thus creating more legitimate group is to say the least very sneaky. I for that matter shoot with 1Ds and do not care for the 10D group from which I received already a few too much messages. We (BW Print Group) have our archives which can accept the Mitches tytorial as well. Again - I appreciate the efford and the knowledge, but it's too mach of the "behind the scene" reasons for my taste. Thanks, Jack _________________________________________________ Jack M Kucy JMK Gallery (www.jmk-gallery.com) 917-991-2096 jmk@... Member of ASMP (www.asmp.org) _________________________________________________ ...a riveder le stelle Paul D. DeRocco wrote:
> > From: Bernie Ess [mailto:albatros-@...] > > > > Helo, you can do whatever you want to of course, but if you post a > > tutorial, it would have been helpful to indicate that people must > > subscribe to the Canon group. > > On top of that, it's not even the most popular Canon 10D group. The > tutorial > is posted in Canon10D, which was created last June, perhaps in response to > dissatisfaction with the much bigger Canon-10D group, which was > started last > February. Why a B&W tutorial would be posted only in a Canon group, > and not > this B&W group is something I don't quite grasp. > > -- > > Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco > Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2003-12-09 by seanstreiff
No, Mitch, it's NOT him. Several of us, including me, are not able to get it to come up. You don't seem to notice that many folks have said that they're not just clicking on the link. Cutting and pasting the URL is NOT WORKING. Here's the URL I see in your earlier post: http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/MCfSP49pMGBGYiXuWSttDAh32AntTC3_gTK1UzsgEzplEPV15J56_CnxKWgtzMcqq-TpT1jnOgdmd6mbZgyR/Tutorials/Split%20Your%20Channels.pdf Result is: "Document Not Found The document you requested could not be found." Going to here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/ doesn't work either, for me: result is: "You are not a member of the group Canon10D." Sean Streiff --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Glenn Mitchell" <gmitchel850@y...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Yume Grot" > <yum@p...> wrote: > > The same with me > > Yume Grot > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: morganbaily2001 > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Saturday, December 06, 2003 3:02 PM > > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Split Channels Method for Converting > to B&W Tutorial > > > > It's you. The tutorial is there. Others are getting to it. > > Yahoo tends to wrap long URLs, breaking. > > Just try the URL to the folder. It's shorter. The tutorial is there. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/ > > Cheers, > > Mitch
2003-12-09 by Austin Franklin
Sean, > Going to here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Canon10D/files/Tutorials/ > doesn't work either, for me: result is: "You are not a member of the > group Canon10D." Just join the group, and you will be able to get to the document. Simple as that. Austin