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2004-01-26 by sandersm@aol.com
I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe was using the Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does anyone on the list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? I notice that its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes that cited improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. Sanders McNew www.mcnew.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by Paul D. DeRocco
> From: sandersm@... [mailto:sandersm@...] > > I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe > was using the > Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does > anyone on the > list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? > I notice that > its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes > that cited > improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. I'm interested too, because buying ImagePrint for both my printers winds up costing as much as Colorburst. -- Ciao, Paul D. DeRocco Paul mailto:pderocco@...
2004-01-26 by Antonis Ricos
Sanders, why not download the free demo from http://www.colorburstrip.com/ and give it a test drive. I really haven't tested enough to make final pronouncements but my initial finds are as follows: - the grayscale support means better cmyk profiles for neutral prints from grayscale files. I prefer partitioned workflows (where inks are assigned start/stop positions along the gray scale) , but could live with 6- or 7-channel multichannel files if that's what it took. This isn't how CBurst works, and I haven't looked further to see how a custom grayscale profile could be made. - I printed a gray scale on a 2200 using the profiles that ship with the current release, and while the gray hue was fine, there was unacceptable banding (some kind of herringbone, not the kind that indicates bad nozzles). Yet, the printer had good clean nozzle checks, the heads were recently aligned and the problem did not recurr when I printed either through the Epson driver or OPM. That to me was a deal-breaker. i didn't pursue tests any further but I hope others try the demo so we can compare notes. - I also briefly checked color printing and found shadows not open enough and a funny dither (looking like fine vertical lines) that I wasn't crazy about. But I know this part is completely subjective and a new profile could deal with shadow detail better. -Installing it on a G3 iBook (640 MB RAM) it was way slow for postscript. But then, the min requirements call for a G4. As an RGB or grayscale printer, speeds were decent for a G3/ jaguar. It would be nice to see a grayscale-capable, full scale RIP (like StudioPrint) for OS X. I wonder what others may have to say about this release (2.2) of Colorburst. Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, sandersm@a... wrote:
> I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe was using the > Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does anyone on the > list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? I notice that > its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes that cited > improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. > > Sanders McNew > www.mcnew.net > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by Steve Smith
I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip and similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The grayscale images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. Color on both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer to its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am very impressed with the performance of the 9600. Steve Smith > Sanders, > > why not download the free demo from > > http://www.colorburstrip.com/ > > and give it a test drive. > > I really haven't tested enough to make final pronouncements but my initial > finds are > as follows: > > - the grayscale support means better cmyk profiles for neutral prints from > grayscale > files. I prefer partitioned workflows (where inks are assigned start/stop > positions > along the gray scale) , but could live with 6- or 7-channel multichannel > files if that's > what it took. This isn't how CBurst works, and I haven't looked further to > see how a > custom grayscale profile could be made. > > - I printed a gray scale on a 2200 using the profiles that ship with the > current release, > and while the gray hue was fine, there was unacceptable banding (some kind of > herringbone, not the kind that indicates bad nozzles). Yet, the printer had > good clean > nozzle checks, the heads were recently aligned and the problem did not recurr > when I > printed either through the Epson driver or OPM. > That to me was a deal-breaker. i didn't pursue tests any further but I hope > others try > the demo so we can compare notes. > > - I also briefly checked color printing and found shadows not open enough and > a > funny dither (looking like fine vertical lines) that I wasn't crazy about. But > I know this > part is completely subjective and a new profile could deal with shadow detail > better. > > -Installing it on a G3 iBook (640 MB RAM) it was way slow for postscript. But > then, the > min requirements call for a G4. As an RGB or grayscale printer, speeds were > decent > for a G3/ jaguar. > > It would be nice to see a grayscale-capable, full scale RIP (like > StudioPrint) for OS X. > I wonder what others may have to say about this release (2.2) of Colorburst. > > > > Antonis > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, sandersm@a... wrote: >> > I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe was using >> the >> > Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does anyone on the >> > list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? I notice >> that >> > its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes that cited >> > improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. >> > >> > Sanders McNew >> > www.mcnew.net >> > >> > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2004-01-26 by Antonis
Steve, thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems when the large machine works fine. Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith <photosmith@v...> wrote: > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip and > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The grayscale > images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. Color on > both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer to > its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I > couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am very > impressed with the performance of the 9600. > > Steve Smith > > > > Sanders, > > > > why not download the free demo from > > > > http://www.colorburstrip.com/ > > > > and give it a test drive. > > > > I really haven't tested enough to make final pronouncements but my initial > > finds are > > as follows: > > > > - the grayscale support means better cmyk profiles for neutral prints from > > grayscale > > files. I prefer partitioned workflows (where inks are assigned start/stop > > positions > > along the gray scale) , but could live with 6- or 7-channel multichannel > > files if that's > > what it took. This isn't how CBurst works, and I haven't looked further to > > see how a > > custom grayscale profile could be made. > > > > - I printed a gray scale on a 2200 using the profiles that ship with the > > current release, > > and while the gray hue was fine, there was unacceptable banding (some kind of > > herringbone, not the kind that indicates bad nozzles). Yet, the printer had > > good clean > > nozzle checks, the heads were recently aligned and the problem did not recurr > > when I > > printed either through the Epson driver or OPM. > > That to me was a deal-breaker. i didn't pursue tests any further but I hope > > others try > > the demo so we can compare notes. > > > > - I also briefly checked color printing and found shadows not open enough and > > a > > funny dither (looking like fine vertical lines) that I wasn't crazy about. But > > I know this > > part is completely subjective and a new profile could deal with shadow detail > > better. > > > > -Installing it on a G3 iBook (640 MB RAM) it was way slow for postscript. But > > then, the > > min requirements call for a G4. As an RGB or grayscale printer, speeds were > > decent > > for a G3/ jaguar. > > > > It would be nice to see a grayscale-capable, full scale RIP (like > > StudioPrint) for OS X. > > I wonder what others may have to say about this release (2.2) of Colorburst. > > > > > > > > Antonis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, sandersm@a... wrote: > >> > I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe was using > >> the > >> > Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does anyone on the > >> > list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? I notice > >> that > >> > its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes that cited > >> > improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. > >> > > >> > Sanders McNew > >> > www.mcnew.net > >> > > >> > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2004-01-26 by Roy Harrington
The big difference between the Pro printers and the 2200 is that the Pro printers do all the microweave (anti-banding code) in the printer so you get Epson's version of that code. In the desktop printers the driver in the computer does micorweave so every driver/RIP will be doing it differently. Roy --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Antonis" <antonisphoto@y...> wrote: > Steve, > > thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems > when the large machine works fine. > Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? > > Antonis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith > <photosmith@v...> wrote: > > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip and > > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The grayscale > > images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. Color on > > both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer to > > its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I > > couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am very > > impressed with the performance of the 9600. > > > > Steve Smith > > > > > > > Sanders, > > > > > > why not download the free demo from > > > > > > http://www.colorburstrip.com/ > > > > > > and give it a test drive. > > > > > > I really haven't tested enough to make final pronouncements but my initial > > > finds are > > > as follows: > > > > > > - the grayscale support means better cmyk profiles for neutral prints from > > > grayscale > > > files. I prefer partitioned workflows (where inks are assigned start/stop > > > positions > > > along the gray scale) , but could live with 6- or 7-channel multichannel > > > files if that's > > > what it took. This isn't how CBurst works, and I haven't looked further to > > > see how a > > > custom grayscale profile could be made. > > > > > > - I printed a gray scale on a 2200 using the profiles that ship with the > > > current release, > > > and while the gray hue was fine, there was unacceptable banding (some kind of > > > herringbone, not the kind that indicates bad nozzles). Yet, the printer had > > > good clean > > > nozzle checks, the heads were recently aligned and the problem did not recurr > > > when I > > > printed either through the Epson driver or OPM. > > > That to me was a deal-breaker. i didn't pursue tests any further but I hope > > > others try > > > the demo so we can compare notes. > > > > > > - I also briefly checked color printing and found shadows not open enough and > > > a > > > funny dither (looking like fine vertical lines) that I wasn't crazy about. But > > > I know this > > > part is completely subjective and a new profile could deal with shadow detail > > > better. > > > > > > -Installing it on a G3 iBook (640 MB RAM) it was way slow for postscript. But > > > then, the > > > min requirements call for a G4. As an RGB or grayscale printer, speeds were > > > decent > > > for a G3/ jaguar. > > > > > > It would be nice to see a grayscale-capable, full scale RIP (like > > > StudioPrint) for OS X. > > > I wonder what others may have to say about this release (2.2) of Colorburst. > > > > > > > > > > > > Antonis > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, sandersm@a... wrote: > > >> > I went back through the archives to see if anyone besides Robbe was using > > >> the > > >> > Colorbust RIP and couldn't find any references to it. Does anyone on the > > >> > list have any experience with it? Any thoughts, observations? I notice > > >> that > > >> > its most recent revision for Macs, v2.2, came with release notes that cited > > >> > improved grayscale printing as a feature of the revision. > > >> > > > >> > Sanders McNew > > >> > www.mcnew.net > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > > they are often being updated. > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > > page. > > > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > > them short. > > > - Good manners are required at all time. 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2004-01-26 by Robbe Gibson
Hi, I have been testing Colorburst with a 7600UC for the last 10 days. Grayscale images look good. Everything prints much faster. The difficulty I'm having is with sheet paper feed. After printing the image and removing the sheet, one inserts a new sheet of paper. When the paper loads, it then continues through the printer as if there's more image to print. If I set the paper size to 8"x10" or 10.1" and use the 'center image' choice, there's no 'double print' problem except the image isn't really centered because the paper size is wrong. I've also tried the 'offset image top and side' choice. That produces a perfectly centered image but the 'double print' problem is still there. Joshua at Colorburst said I'm the first person he's heard of that uses a 7600 with sheet paper.(?) I have no feed problems using Colorburst with roll paper. I have no feed problems using roll or sheet paper with the Epson driver. Anybody have any ideas? Robbe Gibson -----Original Message----- From: Antonis [mailto:antonisphoto@...] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Colorburst RIP Steve, thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems when the large machine works fine. Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? Antonis --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith <photosmith@v...> wrote: > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip and > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The grayscale > images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. Color on > both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer to > its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I > couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am very
> impressed with the performance of the 9600. > > Steve Smith
2004-01-26 by Tyler Boley
You may be exceeding some maximum allowable bottom margin, or need to go in and see if that can be set somewhere. So even though it's done with the image it's looking for more paper. StudioPrint does that too if everything isn't set right. Or it's just a bug. "When I do this it doesn't work". Typical tech support answer- "Well why would you want to do that that?" Sounds like an old Roney Dangerfield joke and not that funny any more. Of course people use sheets in all these printers. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Robbe Gibson" <videocinema@s...> wrote:
> Hi, > I have been testing Colorburst with a 7600UC for the last 10 days. > Grayscale images look good. Everything prints much faster. The > difficulty I'm having is with sheet paper feed. After printing the image > and removing the sheet, one inserts a new sheet of paper. When the paper > loads, it then continues through the printer as if there's more image to > print. If I set the paper size to 8"x10" or 10.1" and use the 'center > image' choice, there's no 'double print' problem except the image isn't > really centered because the paper size is wrong. I've also tried the > 'offset image top and side' choice. That produces a perfectly centered > image but the 'double print' problem is still there. Joshua at > Colorburst said I'm the first person he's heard of that uses a 7600 with > sheet paper.(?) > > I have no feed problems using Colorburst with roll paper. > > I have no feed problems using roll or sheet paper with the Epson driver. > > Anybody have any ideas? > > Robbe Gibson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonis [mailto:antonisphoto@y...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Colorburst RIP > > Steve, > > thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems > > when the large machine works fine. > Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? > > Antonis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith > <photosmith@v...> wrote: > > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip > and > > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The > grayscale > > images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. > Color on > > both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer > to > > its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I > > couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am > very > > impressed with the performance of the 9600. > > > > Steve Smith
2004-01-26 by Robbe Gibson
Since Colorburst says to use 10" setting for an 11" piece of paper on the 2200, I'm tempted to go with the bug concept. On the other hand, as easy as Epson has made it to load sheet paper -er, align sheet paper, I can see why one would not want to use it. Anyway, it works pretty well except for that one issue. Oh, and don't try to cancel a print half way. You end up having to do a reset from the printer control panel. Thanks for your input. Robbe Gibson
-----Original Message----- From: Tyler Boley [mailto:tyler@tylerboley.com] Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:55 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Colorburst RIP You may be exceeding some maximum allowable bottom margin, or need to go in and see if that can be set somewhere. So even though it's done with the image it's looking for more paper. StudioPrint does that too if everything isn't set right. Or it's just a bug. "When I do this it doesn't work". Typical tech support answer- "Well why would you want to do that that?" Sounds like an old Roney Dangerfield joke and not that funny any more. Of course people use sheets in all these printers. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Robbe Gibson" <videocinema@s...> wrote: > Hi, > I have been testing Colorburst with a 7600UC for the last 10 days. > Grayscale images look good. Everything prints much faster. The > difficulty I'm having is with sheet paper feed. After printing the image > and removing the sheet, one inserts a new sheet of paper. When the paper > loads, it then continues through the printer as if there's more image to > print. If I set the paper size to 8"x10" or 10.1" and use the 'center > image' choice, there's no 'double print' problem except the image isn't > really centered because the paper size is wrong. I've also tried the > 'offset image top and side' choice. That produces a perfectly centered > image but the 'double print' problem is still there. Joshua at > Colorburst said I'm the first person he's heard of that uses a 7600 with > sheet paper.(?) > > I have no feed problems using Colorburst with roll paper. > > I have no feed problems using roll or sheet paper with the Epson driver. > > Anybody have any ideas? > > Robbe Gibson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonis [mailto:antonisphoto@y...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Colorburst RIP > > Steve, > > thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems > > when the large machine works fine. > Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? > > Antonis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith > <photosmith@v...> wrote: > > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip > and > > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. The > grayscale > > images printed on the 9600 were some of the best I have ever seen. > Color on > > both machines exhibited banding in the shadows until I set the printer > to > > its highest rez ( 8 passes ) it then went away and looked very good. I > > couldn't get rid of the banding for gray scale on the 2200 but I am > very > > impressed with the performance of the 9600. > > > > Steve Smith Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. 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2004-01-27 by Tom Baker
IP will do that, too. You have to watch the margin widths, image size, etc. closely with sheet goods. Tom Baker Tyler Boley <tyler@...> wrote: You may be exceeding some maximum allowable bottom margin, or need to go in and see if that can be set somewhere. So even though it's done with the image it's looking for more paper. StudioPrint does that too if everything isn't set right. Or it's just a bug. "When I do this it doesn't work". Typical tech support answer- "Well why would you want to do that that?" Sounds like an old Roney Dangerfield joke and not that funny any more. Of course people use sheets in all these printers. Tyler --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Robbe Gibson" <videocinema@s...> wrote: > Hi, > I have been testing Colorburst with a 7600UC for the last 10 days. > Grayscale images look good. Everything prints much faster. The > difficulty I'm having is with sheet paper feed. After printing the image > and removing the sheet, one inserts a new sheet of paper. When the paper > loads, it then continues through the printer as if there's more image to > print. If I set the paper size to 8"x10" or 10.1" and use the 'center > image' choice, there's no 'double print' problem except the image isn't > really centered because the paper size is wrong. I've also tried the > 'offset image top and side' choice. That produces a perfectly centered > image but the 'double print' problem is still there. Joshua at > Colorburst said I'm the first person he's heard of that uses a 7600 with > sheet paper.(?) > > I have no feed problems using Colorburst with roll paper. > > I have no feed problems using roll or sheet paper with the Epson driver. > > Anybody have any ideas? > > Robbe Gibson > > -----Original Message----- > From: Antonis [mailto:antonisphoto@y...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 9:15 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Colorburst RIP > > Steve, > > thanks for sharing that. I wonder why the 2200 would have these problems > > when the large machine works fine. > Didn't the 8-pass slow things down too much? > > Antonis > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Smith > <photosmith@v...> wrote: > > I have recently down loaded the trial version of the color burst rip > and > > similar problems with banding on grayscale images on the 2200. 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2004-01-27 by Antonis
In the desktop printers the > driver in the computer does micorweave so every driver/RIP will be doing it > differently. Aha! thanks for that Roy. I guess then, they shouldn't claim to support the 2200 unless the microweaving is in place. Antonis