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2004-01-26 by Roger Smith
Hi everyone, Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning with the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the group would be most welcome! Roger Smith E. Lansing, MI 48823--
2004-01-26 by Mark Savoia
Horde that film, rumor says it may be discontinued soon. Mark On Jan 26, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Roger Smith wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints?� I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200.� This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film.� Any info and/or tips from the > group > would be most welcome! > > > Roger Smith > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <image.tiff> > <image.tiff> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by Amadou Diallo
I've often used the Polaroid 55 negs. They scan well and produce outstanding prints. Just be sure to clear all the gunk off with a hypo solution as streaks will show up very prominently on scans. And careful not to scratch the wet negs... amadou diallo
2004-01-26 by Mark Hahn
have any source for the rumor? They've recently raised all their prices... maybe if the market will bear it they will keep the stuff around for a while... it was suspicious how cheaply I got a brand new 545i holder for lately though. mark [type 55] > Horde that film, rumor says it may be discontinued soon. > Mark ...
2004-01-26 by KevinG
Roger- It scans beautifully. It is an excellent option. I don't have any special tricks; it is very straight forward.
> Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the > group > would be most welcome! > > > Roger Smith > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- >
2004-01-26 by Alan.Huntley@cox.net
Roger, Type 55 scans beautifully. I've found that I get the best scans using Vuescan, but I'm using an Epson 1680 Pro. This combo lends itself to a quite easy workflow for digital B&W...IMO. One idea you may want to consider...I read about an article recently, written by Mac Holbert (of Nash Editions fame), where he is using Scanner Mounting Fluid with his Epson 3200. According to Mac, "fluid" mounting directly on the glass contributes to better, cleaner scans. Haven't tried it myself, yet...I just got all the supplies together. If interested in pursuing this technique yourself, SMF 2001 (mounting fluid) is available from www.aztek.com. I'll warn ya now, it ain't cheap! A 32 oz. bottle is $50US + shipping. And, it falls under the Hazardous Material category so shipping ain't cheap, either. You may want to check out www.georgedewolfe.com, too. I think George is (or was) primarily using Type 55 nowadays for digital B&W output. Alan Huntley
> > From: Roger Smith <rbsmith252@...> > Date: 2004/01/26 Mon PM 12:58:48 EST > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the group > would be most welcome!
2004-01-26 by Mark Savoia
Inside unnameable source (she still has a job there) says many films will be discontinued soon as part of an effort to save the company. It has been in chapter (?) for some time now and it's stock is worthless. They are getting killed by digital. They missed the boat. When was the last time someone shooting digital shot a Polaroid first? Looks like the only ones who may still be using their films are some police departments and artists. Sad but true; if not enough customers buy their films, why make them. They are trying to make digital printing papers, etc. now to keep their heads above water. Perhaps a buyout from some other struggling company will fit the menu. Mark On Jan 26, 2004, at 2:13 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > have any source for the rumor?� They've recently raised all their > prices... maybe if the market will bear it they will keep the stuff > around for a while... it was suspicious how cheaply I got a brand new > 545i holder for lately though. > > mark > > [type 55] > > Horde that film, rumor says it may be discontinued soon. > > Mark > ... > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by Carl Schofield
Roger, I am new to 4x5, but that is exactly what I've been doing (using a Tachihara 4x5, Polaroid type 55, scanning negs with Epson 3200). The negatives are beautiful and scan very well (I've been exposing at iso 32). Carl
On Monday, January 26, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Roger Smith wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the > group > would be most welcome! > > > Roger Smith > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See „Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines‰ in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE „OWNER‰ > AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE „OWNER‰ AND „MODERATORS‰ OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ---------------------~--> > Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark > Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & > Canada. > http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 > http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/ucIolB/TM > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > ~-> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: > http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ > >
2004-01-26 by Mark Hahn
Everyone figures it will go away, it's just a matter of how long and which films go first... but a few more good years with Type 55 would be nice:) Seems like Type 55 would be one of the last to go though... maybe only because of my own enthuiasm. I guess cops want color and artists want b&w... sad, sad, sad... mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@c...> wrote: > Inside unnameable source (she still has a job there) says many films > will be discontinued soon as part of an effort to save the company. It > has been in chapter (?) for some time now and it's stock is worthless. > They are getting killed by digital. They missed the boat. When was the > last time someone shooting digital shot a Polaroid first? Looks like > the only ones who may still be using their films are some police > departments and artists. Sad but true; if not enough customers buy > their films, why make them. They are trying to make digital printing > papers, etc. now to keep their heads above water. Perhaps a buyout from > some other struggling company will fit the menu. > > Mark > > > On Jan 26, 2004, at 2:13 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > > have any source for the rumor? They've recently raised all their > > prices... maybe if the market will bear it they will keep the stuff > > around for a while... it was suspicious how cheaply I got a brand new > > 545i holder for lately though. > > > > mark > > > > [type 55] > > > Horde that film, rumor says it may be discontinued soon. > > > Mark > > ... > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > > the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the > > Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" > > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.
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2004-01-26 by Ken Schuster
I use Type 665, which is the medium format equivalent. It produces excellent negs for darkroom prints as well as scans, with a long toe (good shadow detail), and less contrast than Plus-X, Tri-X, etc. I forget the "official" mixing ratio for sodium sulfite to water, but a quarter teaspoon to a pint of water works for me. Before putting it in the solution, remove as much of the paper around the neg as possible. Then submerge in the solution in a tray, tank and hanger, or just hold a corner with your fingers and dunk in a glass, etc. Gently agitate and the black mask will come off after 15-30 seconds at room temperature. The emulsion is very fragile, so be careful. After the sodium sulfite solution, I rinse it in running water for 5-10 seconds, then put it in a hardener bath (a few drops of hardener to a pint of water) with agitation for about 30-60 seconds... then rinse about 10 seconds, and then Photo Flo before hanging to dry. Do not use Fixer! ________________________________________________________________ Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." NEVER click links in email requesting personal info.
----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Smith To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:58 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs Hi everyone, Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning with the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the group would be most welcome! [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by AWStolzing@aol.com
Maybe Fuji will take over the market. They seem to be more intelligent than others. For instance they remain comitted to film. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-26 by David R. Spielman
Ken, What's the reason for your point about not using fixer when processing type 55 film? Best Regards, David R. Spielman
-----Original Message-----
From: Ken Schuster [mailto:ken.schuster@...]
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:20 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs
I use Type 665, which is the medium format equivalent. It produces
excellent
negs for darkroom prints as well as scans, with a long toe (good shadow
detail),
and less contrast than Plus-X, Tri-X, etc. I forget the "official" mixing
ratio
for sodium sulfite to water, but a quarter teaspoon to a pint of water
works for
me. Before putting it in the solution, remove as much of the paper around
the
neg as possible. Then submerge in the solution in a tray, tank and hanger,
or
just hold a corner with your fingers and dunk in a glass, etc. Gently
agitate
and the black mask will come off after 15-30 seconds at room temperature.
The
emulsion is very fragile, so be careful. After the sodium sulfite
solution, I
rinse it in running water for 5-10 seconds, then put it in a hardener bath
(a
few drops of hardener to a pint of water) with agitation for about 30-60
seconds... then rinse about 10 seconds, and then Photo Flo before hanging
to
dry. Do not use Fixer!
________________________________________________________________
Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe."
NEVER click links in email requesting personal info.
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Smith
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:58 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs
Hi everyone,
Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W
prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning
with
the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a
darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the
group
would be most welcome!
[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]2004-01-26 by Ernst Dinkla
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From: "Mark Savoia" <mark@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs Horde that film, rumor says it may be discontinued soon. Mark On Jan 26, 2004, at 12:58 PM, Roger Smith wrote: > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the > group > would be most welcome! > > > Roger Smith > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- Mark, How serious is that rumour ? I'm using 665 from time to time and I really would like to continue that. Fuji seems eager to continue film manufacturing, in contrast with Kodak and Polaroid it has confirmed continuing development of film. They could make an instant negative film like they make more instant film. Maybe even a faster version. I scan it wet mounted on a separate glass plate in focus above the glass bed of the 3200. Vuescan two passes + longer exposure. Ernst
2004-01-26 by sandersm@aol.com
Carl Schofield writes: "[Polaroid 55] negatives are beautiful and scan very well (I've been exposing at iso 32)." I've found that the negatives are underexposed at 32. I expose somewhere between 20 and 25. Polaroid 55 is great stuff, and it scans wonderfully on the Epson 3200. Lay the negatives, emulsion-side down, right on the glass, and lay the Epson 4x5 film carrier on top with the image centered in the hole for the 4x5 negative (the Polaroid 55 negs don't fit in my carrier but the carrier does a good job of holding the Polaroid 55 neg flat against the glass). Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life? Or do the chemicals not like that sort of thing? I keep a couple of boxes in my fridge, but maybe I need to put more boxes into deep storage. Sanders McNew www.mcnew.net [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Tim Atherton
> Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life? Or do the > chemicals > not like that sort of thing? I keep a couple of boxes in my > fridge, but maybe > I need to put more boxes into deep storage. I'm pretty sure you can't freeze it - I think it just kills it... and polaroid film doesn't keep that well. I think type 55 does a bit better than colour, but not that much. BTW, only last year Polaroid was testing an 8x10 version of type 55, but decided not to produce it in the end.... That would have been cool Now, anyone for "chocolate" polaroids? I keep meaning to try that out. tim
2004-01-27 by John Vitollo
> I scan it wet mounted on a separate glass plate in focus above > the glass bed of the 3200. Vuescan two passes + longer exposure. > > Ernst Ernst, What thickness glass do you place on top of the 3200's glass bed? Where's the longer exposure setting in Vuescan? Thanks! John V.
2004-01-27 by Mark Hahn
No, polaroid chemicals dry out way before the film goes bad. Even refrigeration is probably a bad idea because it it so dry in there. ...also don't know why you think they didn't make the 8x10" stuff, b&h has 3 varieties in stock right now (2 b&w and one color): http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? A=search&Q=&a=325_2727&shs=&ci=352&ac=&Submit.x=32&Submit.y=9 what's a "chocalate polaroid?" mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tim Atherton <timatherton@t...> wrote: > > > Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life? Or do the > > chemicals > > not like that sort of thing? I keep a couple of boxes in my > > fridge, but maybe > > I need to put more boxes into deep storage. > > I'm pretty sure you can't freeze it - I think it just kills it... and > polaroid film doesn't keep that well. I think type 55 does a bit better than > colour, but not that much. > > BTW, only last year Polaroid was testing an 8x10 version of type 55, but > decided not to produce it in the end.... > > That would have been cool > > Now, anyone for "chocolate" polaroids? I keep meaning to try that out. > > tim
2004-01-27 by John Merrill
Anyone know how to get around the problem that type 55 does not fit in the 3200's 4x5 holder? I don't have the ability to build a custom holder. Are you trimming the negative, mounting on the glass, etc? John Merrill On Jan 26, 2004, at 2:18 PM, KevinG wrote: > Roger- > > It scans beautifully.� It is an excellent option.� I don't have any > special tricks; it is very straight forward. > > > Hi everyone, > > > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for > B&W > > prints?� I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and > scanning > > with > > the Epson 3200.� This seems like a great combination as I do not > have a > > darkroom available to process 4X5 film.� Any info and/or tips from > the > > group > > would be most welcome! > > > > > > Roger Smith > > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Mark Hahn
the film is already fixed and shouldn't be fixed again... don't know what it would do. Some people like a hardener, but I don't bother... I handle them as carefully as any other negative once they are dry and haven't had any problems. (I don't think it was even designed to be hardened...) mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > Ken, > > What's the reason for your point about not using fixer when processing type > 55 film? > > Best Regards, > > David R. Spielman > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schuster [mailto:ken.schuster@a...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:20 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > > I use Type 665, which is the medium format equivalent. It produces > excellent > negs for darkroom prints as well as scans, with a long toe (good shadow > detail), > and less contrast than Plus-X, Tri-X, etc. I forget the "official" mixing > ratio > for sodium sulfite to water, but a quarter teaspoon to a pint of water > works for > me. Before putting it in the solution, remove as much of the paper around > the > neg as possible. Then submerge in the solution in a tray, tank and hanger, > or > just hold a corner with your fingers and dunk in a glass, etc. Gently > agitate > and the black mask will come off after 15-30 seconds at room temperature. > The > emulsion is very fragile, so be careful. After the sodium sulfite > solution, I > rinse it in running water for 5-10 seconds, then put it in a hardener bath > (a > few drops of hardener to a pint of water) with agitation for about 30-60 > seconds... then rinse about 10 seconds, and then Photo Flo before hanging > to > dry. Do not use Fixer! > ________________________________________________________________ > > Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." > NEVER click links in email requesting personal info. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Smith > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:58 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. 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2004-01-27 by Mark Savoia
In positive/negative? What number is it? On Jan 26, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > No, polaroid chemicals dry out way before the film goes bad.� Even > refrigeration is probably a bad idea because it it so dry in there. > > ...also don't know why you think they didn't make the 8x10" stuff, > b&h has 3 varieties in stock right now (2 b&w and one color): > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > A=search&Q=&a=325_2727&shs=&ci=352&ac=&Submit.x=32&Submit.y=9 > > what's a "chocalate polaroid?" > > mark > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tim Atherton > <timatherton@t...> wrote: > > > > > Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life?�� Or do the > > > chemicals > > > not like that sort of thing?�� I keep a couple of boxes in my > > > fridge, but maybe > > > I need to put more boxes into deep storage. > > > > I'm pretty sure you can't freeze it - I think it just kills it... > and > > polaroid film doesn't keep that well. I think type 55 does a bit > better than > > colour, but not that much. > > > > BTW, only last year Polaroid was testing an 8x10 version of type > 55, but > > decided not to produce it in the end.... > > > > That would have been cool > > > > Now, anyone for "chocolate" polaroids? I keep meaning to try that > out. > > > > tim > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > ADVERTISEMENT > <image.tiff> > <image.tiff> > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Mark Hahn
sure you do... some black matte board and an exacto is all it takes. make a two peice hinged frame (with the proper cutout on the top)... just about the right height too. mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, John Merrill <jmerrill@s...> wrote: > Anyone know how to get around the problem that type 55 does not fit in > the 3200's 4x5 holder? I don't have the ability to build a custom > holder. Are you trimming the negative, mounting on the glass, etc? > > John Merrill > > > On Jan 26, 2004, at 2:18 PM, KevinG wrote: > > > Roger- > > > > It scans beautifully. It is an excellent option. I don't have any > > special tricks; it is very straight forward. > > > > > Hi everyone, > > > > > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for > > B&W > > > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and > > scanning > > > with > > > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not > > have a > > > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from > > the > > > group > > > would be most welcome! > > > > > > > > > Roger Smith > > > E. Lansing, MI 48823-- > > > > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > > the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the > > Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" > > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.
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2004-01-27 by Mark Savoia
I have done the "chocolate" Polaroid thing with 8x10. It works OK but I did not spend the needed testing time and the very costly investment to see if I could improve the results. Mark On Jan 26, 2004, at 7:16 PM, Tim Atherton wrote: > > > Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life?�� Or do the > > chemicals > > not like that sort of thing?�� I keep a couple of boxes in my > > fridge, but maybe > > I need to put more boxes into deep storage. > > I'm pretty sure you can't freeze it - I think it just kills it... and > polaroid film doesn't keep that well. I think type 55 does a bit > better than > colour, but not that much. > > BTW, only last year Polaroid was testing an 8x10 version of type 55, > but > decided not to produce it in the end.... > > That would have been cool > > Now, anyone for "chocolate" polaroids? I keep meaning to try that out. > > tim > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > resources as they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > this same page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > keep them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > the membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > removed from the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > Owner and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines� in the > Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER� > AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE� �OWNER� AND �MODERATORS� OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > � To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > � > � To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > � > � Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Mark Hahn
sorry, read the post too fast... thought you were saying there weren't any 8x10" films available... my bad... mark --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@c...> wrote: > In positive/negative? What number is it? > > On Jan 26, 2004, at 7:38 PM, Mark Hahn wrote: > > > No, polaroid chemicals dry out way before the film goes bad. Even > > refrigeration is probably a bad idea because it it so dry in there. > > > > ...also don't know why you think they didn't make the 8x10" stuff, > > b&h has 3 varieties in stock right now (2 b&w and one color): > > > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > > A=search&Q=&a=325_2727&shs=&ci=352&ac=&Submit.x=32&Submit.y=9 > > > > what's a "chocalate polaroid?" > > > > mark > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Tim Atherton > > <timatherton@t...> wrote: > > > > > > > Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life? Or do the > > > > chemicals > > > > not like that sort of thing? I keep a couple of boxes in my > > > > fridge, but maybe > > > > I need to put more boxes into deep storage. > > > > > > I'm pretty sure you can't freeze it - I think it just kills it... > > and > > > polaroid film doesn't keep that well. I think type 55 does a bit > > better than > > > colour, but not that much. > > > > > > BTW, only last year Polaroid was testing an 8x10 version of type > > 55, but > > > decided not to produce it in the end.... > > > > > > That would have been cool > > > > > > Now, anyone for "chocolate" polaroids? I keep meaning to try that > > out. > > > > > > tim > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish > > to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting > > this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to > > keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from > > the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group > > Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the > > Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" > > AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE > > LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE > > LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), > > RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, > > THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF > > YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD > > PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > > > > > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > > > > ADVERTISEMENT > > <image.tiff> > > <image.tiff> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > To visit your group on the web, go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > > > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@...m > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to theYahoo! Terms of Service.
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2004-01-27 by Tim Atherton
> ...also don't know why you think they didn't make the 8x10" stuff, > b&h has 3 varieties in stock right now (2 b&w and one color): > > http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home? > A=search&Q=&a=325_2727&shs=&ci=352&ac=&Submit.x=32&Submit.y=9 They don't make an 8x10 version of type 55 pos/neg - where you get a nice big 8x10 polaroid negative full of detail - which is what we are talking about > > what's a "chocalate polaroid?" Mix and match - colour pod from one type of film and the actual film from another type - gives you a rich sort of chocolate brown coloured print. But in 8x10 it means you have to buy a pack of each and throw the unused parts of each away. In 20x24 Polaroid actually will sell the packs separately as it's quite popular in that format - you expose a 809 negative and process in a 804 pod and receptor - in 8x10 you have to buy a pack of each. http://www.polaroid.com/prophoto/sorter.jsp?FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302 024124&bmUID=1075164725721&PRDREG=null (not a very good example) I think Joyce Tenneson uses it a lot tim
2004-01-27 by D. Hill
John, I've just placed the negative emulsion side down on the glass with good results when scanning type 55. Very sharp images. Don --- John Merrill <jmerrill@...> wrote: > Anyone know how to get around the problem that type > 55 does not fit in > the 3200's 4x5 holder? I don't have the ability to > build a custom > holder. Are you trimming the negative, mounting on > the glass, etc? > > John Merrill > > __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting.yahoo.com/ps/sb/
2004-01-27 by Ken Carney
55PN is indeed an excellent film, for so long as it is around. Sad thing
about Polaroid. I used a lot of 35mm Polapan instant b&w slide film --
beautiful stuff, now gone. PN55 has a fairly short shelf life, so stocking
up won't help much. But use it while you can. Generally speaking, when the
positive is "too light" the negative will be about right. If the positive
looks OK, the neg is thin, i.e., you get an exposure meter as a bonus
("Polameter"). Processing is easy. Just strip as much of the paper and
crap away from the neg as you can, rinse, then soak in an 18% solution of
sodium sulfite for at least 20 minutes (that's about two tablespoons of
sodium sulfite or Kodak Hypo-clear per liter). You can leave the negs in
the sulfite solution overnight and it won't hurt them. Then rinse as usual,
Photo-flow and hang to dry. It scans really well.
In the field, you can get a Polaroid tank to fill with sodium sulfite and
process on the spot. If you find one that doesn't leak, let me know.
Incidentally, you don't need a darkroom to process film. Calumet makes
daylight 4x5 tanks and a film tent to load it (and the film holders). Once
you have loaded the exposed film in the tank, all else is done in room
light. Another option is to get Kodak ready-load 4x5 (limited to Tmax 100
and 400 I think) and have a pro lab develop the negs. Hope this helps.
Regards,
--Ken Carney
www.kencarney.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Roger Smith [mailto:rbsmith252@...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 11:59 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and > scanning for B&W prints? I am thinking about shooting type > 55 with my 4X5 and scanning with the Epson 3200. This seems > like a great combination as I do not have a darkroom > available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the > group would be most welcome! > > > Roger Smith > E. Lansing, MI 48823--
2004-01-27 by Ken Schuster
David... The emulsion and base are extremely delicate. (Only distantly related to Kodak's tough Estar base and hardener-impregnated emulsions.) Fixer is aggressive and can damage and stain as well as lead to early exteriorization even if hypo clearing agent is used. I vaguely remember Polaroid started putting a warning in the instructions to not use fixer too, several years ago. (I'd check, but I don't have any where I am at the moment.) ________________________________________________________________ Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." NEVER click links in email requesting personal info.
----- Original Message ----- From: David R. Spielman To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 5:46 PM Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs Ken, What's the reason for your point about not using fixer when processing type 55 film? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Ken Schuster
The Polaroid developing agent doesn't recuperate, nor does the pod that contains it. ________________________________________________________________ Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." NEVER click links in email requesting personal info.
----- Original Message ----- From: sandersm@... To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 6:36 PM Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Polaroid type 55 negs Carl Schofield writes: ...snip... Can you freeze Polaroid 55 film for long shelf life? Or do the chemicals not like that sort of thing? I keep a couple of boxes in my fridge, but maybe I need to put more boxes into deep storage. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by Ken Schuster
What the heck is "exteriorization?" That was supposed to be "DEteriorization." So much for spel check. ;-) Sorry. ________________________________________________________________ Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." NEVER click links in email requesting personal info.
----- Original Message ----- From: Ken Schuster To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs ...snip... Fixer is aggressive and can damage and stain as well as lead to early exteriorization even if hypo clearing agent is used. ...snip... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
2004-01-27 by jeffsstudio9
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David R. Spielman" <david@s...> wrote: > Ken, > > What's the reason for your point about not using fixer when processing type > 55 film? > > Best Regards, > > David R. Spielman 12 percent sodium sulfite > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Ken Schuster [mailto:ken.schuster@a...] > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:20 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > > I use Type 665, which is the medium format equivalent. It produces > excellent > negs for darkroom prints as well as scans, with a long toe (good shadow > detail), > and less contrast than Plus-X, Tri-X, etc. I forget the "official" mixing > ratio > for sodium sulfite to water, but a quarter teaspoon to a pint of water > works for > me. Before putting it in the solution, remove as much of the paper around > the > neg as possible. Then submerge in the solution in a tray, tank and hanger, > or > just hold a corner with your fingers and dunk in a glass, etc. Gently > agitate > and the black mask will come off after 15-30 seconds at room temperature. > The > emulsion is very fragile, so be careful. After the sodium sulfite > solution, I > rinse it in running water for 5-10 seconds, then put it in a hardener bath > (a > few drops of hardener to a pint of water) with agitation for about 30-60 > seconds... then rinse about 10 seconds, and then Photo Flo before hanging > to > dry. Do not use Fixer! > ________________________________________________________________ > > Never respond to spam, even to "unsubscribe." > NEVER click links in email requesting personal info. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Smith > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:58 PM > Subject: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > > > Hi everyone, > > Is anyone using Polaroid type 55 Pos/Neg type film and scanning for B&W > prints? I am thinking about shooting type 55 with my 4X5 and scanning > with > the Epson 3200. This seems like a great combination as I do not have a > darkroom available to process 4X5 film. Any info and/or tips from the > group > would be most welcome! > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and > Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND > "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR > ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY > THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER > MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor > ADVERTISEMENT > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- --------- > -- > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: > DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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2004-01-27 by Ernst Dinkla
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From: "John Vitollo" <jvlist@...> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2004 1:16 AM Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Polaroid type 55 negs > I scan it wet mounted on a separate glass plate in focus above > the glass bed of the 3200. Vuescan two passes + longer exposure. > > Ernst Ernst, What thickness glass do you place on top of the 3200's glass bed? Where's the longer exposure setting in Vuescan? Thanks! John V. John, First you have to find the right focus for your 3200. Norman Koren has some information on that. There is a longer message on the subject somewhere in the archives that I have written. Make a mask of a plastic sheet and some black paper that resembles the 3200 carriers on the outside but with the appropriate size window for the film you are using. The thickness of that mask should be near the focus height. There's a problem there as some 3200's have their best focus on or near the glassbed. I use a separate normal float glass sheet of 2 mm thick and a size smaller than the glassbed so it can be rotated. Liquid mount the film with an extra sheet of transparent polyester on the glass that itself is lying on a thick soft piece of paper to even out the pressure applied. When mounted remove the dust on both sides and put the film + glass sandwich on the mask that's lying on the scanner bed. The glass should be turned over with the film "hanging" on the underside. That way the heat of the lamp isn't interfering and there's only the scanner glass + polyester foil between the film and the scanhead. Long exposure is under the input tab. It will result in two passes, one normal and one I believe taking 6x longer. From the last only the extra information is used to get better information ftom the dark negative parts. With the 2 passes I add this means that process is done twice. I could only do this with the negative wetmounted and turned over so underneath the glass as the lamp heat expands the film or displaces it otherwise. Ernst