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Mounting digital prints. What to use?

Mounting digital prints. What to use?

2004-06-23 by siklosg

Hi,

I'm sort of new to the whole digital printing arena. I use to
dry-mount
my traditional B&W prints but I have a feeling that it would probably
not work for inkjet prints.

What can you recommend I use to mount cotton, matte paper (like the
Epson Ultrasmoot/Scrapbook) and glossy prints (like the HP Premiup
Plus)? Oh yes, and I'd like to be archival.

Thanks,

-Gabor

RE: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?

2004-06-23 by Paul Roark

Gabor,

I also used to dry mount all my silver prints, and I was never fond of the
process.  Conservators also don't like it because it is probably
irreversible.  However, it was really the only way to keep the images flat
enough.

One of the advantages with "carbon on cotton" digital printing is that it
was not process in water, so it's not nearly as wavy.  Also, with matte
paper it doesn't matter if it's not totally flat.  The matte finish behind
glass simply does not show the slight waviness that may still be there.
This allows me to just tape-hand the paper behind an over-mat.  (Some use
corners to hold the print with success.)  I use the hinged Light Impressions
Exeter Conservation Board (Gallery white).  I like the archival foam board
as a backing.

At any rate, I like quick and easy, and this is considerably easier than dry
mounting and looks just as good.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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From: siklosg [mailto:siklosg@...] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:33 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?

Hi,

I'm sort of new to the whole digital printing arena. I use to
dry-mount
my traditional B&W prints but I have a feeling that it would probably
not work for inkjet prints.

What can you recommend I use to mount cotton, matte paper (like the
Epson Ultrasmoot/Scrapbook) and glossy prints (like the HP Premiup
Plus)? Oh yes, and I'd like to be archival.

Thanks,

-Gabor




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RE: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?

2004-06-23 by Ross Borgida

I have never dry mounted and use the photo corners.  The photo corners are great for mounting prints and a lot cheaper than purchasing a dry mount setup.  Good luck!

Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
Gabor,

I also used to dry mount all my silver prints, and I was never fond of the
process.  Conservators also don't like it because it is probably
irreversible.  However, it was really the only way to keep the images flat
enough.

One of the advantages with "carbon on cotton" digital printing is that it
was not process in water, so it's not nearly as wavy.  Also, with matte
paper it doesn't matter if it's not totally flat.  The matte finish behind
glass simply does not show the slight waviness that may still be there.
This allows me to just tape-hand the paper behind an over-mat.  (Some use
corners to hold the print with success.)  I use the hinged Light Impressions
Exeter Conservation Board (Gallery white).  I like the archival foam board
as a backing.

At any rate, I like quick and easy, and this is considerably easier than dry
mounting and looks just as good.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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From: siklosg [mailto:siklosg@...m] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 1:33 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?

Hi,

I'm sort of new to the whole digital printing arena. I use to
dry-mount
my traditional B&W prints but I have a feeling that it would probably
not work for inkjet prints.

What can you recommend I use to mount cotton, matte paper (like the
Epson Ultrasmoot/Scrapbook) and glossy prints (like the HP Premiup
Plus)? Oh yes, and I'd like to be archival.

Thanks,

-Gabor




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RE: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?

2004-06-24 by Ken Carney

Gabor, I have dry-mounted dye and pigment inkjet prints using the same
techniques as with a silver print (layers of matt board in the press,
low-temp tissue) with no problems --that I know of.  Ask me in 30 years.
However, I put mounting and framing in PITA level 8 (developing film is 10).
So now I outsource, and the very talented framer I use uses the Light
Impressions corner mounts.  This seems to work OK with heavier papers, but
with lighter papers I may have her go to tape, cold mount or something to
avoid buckling.  As an artistic decision I prefer dry-mounting and signing
on the matt board, but...there is only so much time and I don't really want
to have anyone else do the dry-mounting part.

Regards,

  --Ken Carney
    www.kencarney.com  
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: siklosg [mailto:siklosg@...] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 4:33 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Mounting digital prints. What to use?
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I'm sort of new to the whole digital printing arena. I use to 
> dry-mount my traditional B&W prints but I have a feeling that 
> it would probably not work for inkjet prints.
> 
> What can you recommend I use to mount cotton, matte paper 
> (like the Epson Ultrasmoot/Scrapbook) and glossy prints (like 
> the HP Premiup Plus)? Oh yes, and I'd like to be archival.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Gabor
> 
> 
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> or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be 
> removed from the membership without notice.
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> digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic 
> posts may be removed from the membership.
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> rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and 
> decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group 
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> INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY 
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> PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN 
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