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Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada

Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada

2004-07-30 by Alan.Huntley@cox.net

Hi Rob,

I've tested Moab Entrada BW and Natural on my Epson 2200 with UC inks against EEM, Epson Velvet Fine Art, Epson Ultrasmooth, PR, and Premier Art Hot Press. For me, personally, the Bright White print characteristics were not to my liking, however, I quickly became entralled with the Natural selection. For B&W, it prints ever so slightly warmer than Epson Velvet, but slightly cooler than Ultrasmooth. Placing the same image printed on Velvet, Ultrasmooth, and Entrada Natural side-by-side in many light condidtions, the EN print just seems to "glow" a little more than the others. Paper color and surface characteristics are very similar to Ultrasmooth.

A very nice paper, indeed. Order a sample pack and test for yourself.

Alan Huntley

P.S. I should mention that I print through IP 5.6.
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> 
> From: Robert Krawiec <robk64@...>
> Date: 2004/07/30 Fri PM 02:15:11 EDT
> To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone have experience with Moab Entrada papers
> with either 2200 or UT2 inks? Good? Bad?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Rob
> 
> PS I bought the UT2 inks based on the information
> given on this list and I'm delighted with them. Thanks
> too to Paul Roark for his curves!

Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada

2004-08-01 by Allan Chen

For anyone using Entrada (wither bright white or natural) with UT2 inks, 
what curve are you using?  Just curious.  I need to pick a paper for some 
prints someone wants to buy, and am considering Entrada as a fairly 
affordable option.

thanks,
allan

At 12:08 PM 7/30/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Rob,
>
>I've tested Moab Entrada BW and Natural on my Epson 2200 with UC inks 
>against EEM, Epson Velvet Fine Art, Epson Ultrasmooth, PR, and Premier Art 
>Hot Press. For me, personally, the Bright White print characteristics were 
>not to my liking, however, I quickly became entralled with the Natural 
>selection. For B&W, it prints ever so slightly warmer than Epson Velvet, 
>but slightly cooler than Ultrasmooth. Placing the same image printed on 
>Velvet, Ultrasmooth, and Entrada Natural side-by-side in many light 
>condidtions, the EN print just seems to "glow" a little more than the 
>others. Paper color and surface characteristics are very similar to 
>Ultrasmooth.
>
>A very nice paper, indeed. Order a sample pack and test for yourself.
>
>Alan Huntley
>
>P.S. I should mention that I print through IP 5.6.
>
> >
> > From: Robert Krawiec <robk64@...>
> > Date: 2004/07/30 Fri PM 02:15:11 EDT
> > To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with Moab Entrada papers
> > with either 2200 or UT2 inks? Good? Bad?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > PS I bought the UT2 inks based on the information
> > given on this list and I'm delighted with them. Thanks
> > too to Paul Roark for his curves!
>
>
>
>
>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as 
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>
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RE: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada

2004-08-01 by Paul Roark

Allan,

My UT7 notes indicate that the EEM settings are close.  So, I'd start there.
The Moab paper will, of course, print colder than EEM.  So, the EEM medium
warm curve might be close to a neutral print.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 
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-----Original Message-----
From: Allan Chen [mailto:kaiyen@...] 
Sent: Saturday, July 31, 2004 10:17 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada

For anyone using Entrada (wither bright white or natural) with UT2 inks, 
what curve are you using?  Just curious.  I need to pick a paper for some 
prints someone wants to buy, and am considering Entrada as a fairly 
affordable option.

thanks,
allan

At 12:08 PM 7/30/2004, you wrote:
>Hi Rob,
>
>I've tested Moab Entrada BW and Natural on my Epson 2200 with UC inks 
>against EEM, Epson Velvet Fine Art, Epson Ultrasmooth, PR, and Premier Art 
>Hot Press. For me, personally, the Bright White print characteristics were 
>not to my liking, however, I quickly became entralled with the Natural 
>selection. For B&W, it prints ever so slightly warmer than Epson Velvet, 
>but slightly cooler than Ultrasmooth. Placing the same image printed on 
>Velvet, Ultrasmooth, and Entrada Natural side-by-side in many light 
>condidtions, the EN print just seems to "glow" a little more than the 
>others. Paper color and surface characteristics are very similar to 
>Ultrasmooth.
>
>A very nice paper, indeed. Order a sample pack and test for yourself.
>
>Alan Huntley
>
>P.S. I should mention that I print through IP 5.6.
>
> >
> > From: Robert Krawiec <robk64@...>
> > Date: 2004/07/30 Fri PM 02:15:11 EDT
> > To: digitalblackandwhitetheprint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Moab Entrada
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Does anyone have experience with Moab Entrada papers
> > with either 2200 or UT2 inks? Good? Bad?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > PS I bought the UT2 inks based on the information
> > given on this list and I'm delighted with them. Thanks
> > too to Paul Roark for his curves!
>
>
>
>
>Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as 
>they are often being updated.
>
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint
>
>If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to 
>unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same 
>page.
>
>Please follow these basic guidelines:
>- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep 
>them short.
>- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. 
>Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the 
>membership without notice.
>- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W 
>printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from 
>the membership.
>- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and 
>guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner 
>and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files
section:
>http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
>
>BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
>YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND 
>"MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO 
>YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR 
>EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF 
>PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF 
>THE  "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE 
>BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE 
>USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) 
>UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) 
>STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT 
>YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE 
>PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>
>Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

------------------------------------
Technology Projects Manager
Academic Computing & The Office of Accessible Education
Stanford University
v - 650-996-0546
f - 650-725-4685 




Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as
they are often being updated.

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint

If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to
unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same
page.

Please follow these basic guidelines:
- As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep
them short.
- Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames.
Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the
membership without notice.
- Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W
printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from
the membership.
- By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and
guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and
Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files section:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/

BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT
YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND
MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU
FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY
DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS,
GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  OWNER AND
MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE
POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR
ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY
THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER
MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
 
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OT: Epson Wide Format Printer Questions

2004-08-04 by Allan Chen

>All,

I apologize for the off-topic post, but I know that several folks on this 
list use the Epson wide format printers - specifically the 7600 and 
9600.  We are looking into getting such a device here at work, and I was 
hoping for some (off-list) comments about their reliability, as well as any 
other associated issues.  For instance, clogging, day-to-day as well as 
long-term reliability, issues with changing paper rolls on a frequent (2x 
per day or so) basis, etc.

thanks,
allan chen


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Technology Projects Manager
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Stanford University
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