Digital BW, The Print

Am I correct that with a Quadtone RIP and a 2200 I should be able to 
_potentially_ produce prints that are the equivlent of those from a 
1280 with U2 inks?  Not identical, but of a similar quality.  I do 
not get to print frequently and a single printer for B&W and color 
that uses Epson inks makes a lot of sense.  What has stopped me to 
this point is the cost of Imageprint.  

Steve

With QTR and a 2200 you should be able to produce prints that equal 
prints from Imageprint in every way, at a fraction of the cost. It will 
also compare very favorably to the UT2 inks, but highlights will be 
slightly more dotty due to the lack of a lighter gray ink.

--
Daniel Staver
http://daniel.staver.no

> Am I correct that with a Quadtone RIP and a 2200 I should be able to 
> _potentially_ produce prints that are the equivlent of those from a 
> 1280 with U2 inks?  Not identical, but of a similar quality.  I do 
> not get to print frequently and a single printer for B&W and color 
> that uses Epson inks makes a lot of sense.  What has stopped me to 
> this point is the cost of Imageprint.

Hi, 
I am new to your group.  Can anyone give me information on what else 
is needed with Epson 2200 and the QuadTone Rip soft ware for B&W 
prints?  I have heard of something else is needed to plug into the USB 
device?

Thank you for your help, Gordon

Gordon,

Nothing extra is required to print.  Just download the program, install 
it, and begin printing with the supplied profiles.  

If you want to build your own profiles, you will need either a 
spectrophotometer or a densitometer.  It is possible to use a scanner 
to fulfill this role, but the results are less accurate and more prone 
to error.  

Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Gordon Sinclair" 
<ggsinclair@s...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> I am new to your group.  Can anyone give me information on what else 
> is needed with Epson 2200 and the QuadTone Rip soft ware for B&W 
> prints?  I have heard of something else is needed to plug into the 
USB 

> device?
> 
> Thank you for your help, Gordon

Just starting to look into the QTR and Epson 2200, is there another 
set of soft ware used by using a flash stick USB connected that is 
also used to obtain a better B & W print?

>Just starting to look into the QTR and Epson 2200, is there another
>set of soft ware used by using a flash stick USB connected that is
>also used to obtain a better B & W print?

Are you thinking of the dongle that is used in conjunction with the
Imageprint RIP??

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Stephen 
Petegorsky <petegorsky@e...> wrote:
> >Just starting to look into the QTR and Epson 2200, is there another
> >set of soft ware used by using a flash stick USB connected that is
> >also used to obtain a better B & W print?
> 
> Are you thinking of the dongle that is used in conjunction with the
> Imageprint RIP??

Being so new to this technology, and just researching as much as 
possible before committing time and dollars into a specific 
printer/software for B&W printing, I am not sure if it is the "dongle".

In my researh, noticed on a web site (now unable to locate) that 
mentioned a device that looked like a media card (flash stick) that 
connected via USB port.  This item cost about $450?  Not sure if it 
was a "dongle"?  What does the "dongle" do?

> From: Gordon Sinclair
>
> Being so new to this technology, and just researching as much as
> possible before committing time and dollars into a specific
> printer/software for B&W printing, I am not sure if it is the "dongle".
>
> In my researh, noticed on a web site (now unable to locate) that
> mentioned a device that looked like a media card (flash stick) that
> connected via USB port.  This item cost about $450?  Not sure if it
> was a "dongle"?  What does the "dongle" do?

ImagePrint uses a dongle, which is a hardware key. If you don't have it
plugged in, you can't run the software. This prevents piracy.

Obviously, QTR, being free, doesn't use a dongle.

--

Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
Paul                mailto:pderocco@...

Being $50.....

> From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@...>

> 
> Obviously, QTR, being free, doesn't use a dongle.
>

...and worth a lot more than the $50 that good people properly pay...

Djon

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
<stevekale@b...> wrote:

> Being $50.....
> 
> 
> > From: "Paul D. DeRocco" <pderocco@i...>
> 
> > 
> > Obviously, QTR, being free, doesn't use a dongle.
> >

Well, I have been thinking of purchasing a good B&W photo printer,
are there any out there that use a silver base color with blacks and
grey’s?

or which one does the best for 8x10,12 and 11x14 ?

Thanks -
Richard

Richard,

> 
> Well, I have been thinking of purchasing a good B&W photo printer,


> are there any out there that use a silver base color with blacks and
> grey's?

Not that I'm aware of.  However, the silver idea -- like B&W Magazine -- has
been raised before.  I'll see if I can find an appropriate pigment.  We
could do that if there is a pigment that'll stay suspended.  (Silver itself
has too high a specific gravity.)


> 
> or which one does the best for 8x10,12 and 11x14 ?

The best value for 8.5" wide paper is the C86 with MIS EZ inks.  The best
for 13" paper and overall is the 2200.  This you can use the OEM inks with a
rip or go with the B&W MIS UT7 and either the Epson driver or a rip.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Slight correction. QTR in not free. If you decide you like it and want to use
it, you are obliged to send Roy the $50 shareware fee.

-Stephen
 www.sbillard.org/Stephen

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Paul D. DeRocco
> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2005 9:28 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] QuadTone Rip
> 
> 
> > From: Gordon Sinclair
> >
> > Being so new to this technology, and just researching as much as 
> > possible before committing time and dollars into a specific 
> > printer/software for B&W printing, I am not sure if it is the 
> > "dongle".
> >
> > In my researh, noticed on a web site (now unable to locate) that 
> > mentioned a device that looked like a media card (flash stick) that 
> > connected via USB port.  This item cost about $450?  Not sure if it 
> > was a "dongle"?  What does the "dongle" do?
> 
> ImagePrint uses a dongle, which is a hardware key. If you 
> don't have it plugged in, you can't run the software. This 
> prevents piracy.
> 
> Obviously, QTR, being free, doesn't use a dongle.
> 
> --
> 
> Ciao,               Paul D. DeRocco
> Paul                mailto:pderocco@...
> 
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Richard;

My first printer was an Alps 5000, a brand that is no longer imported 
into the US; It was a thermal transfer printer, with the inks on 
ribbons like a typewriter. It had silver, gold, and metallic CMY carts, 
though the driver omly allowed you to use them as 'spot'  (solid 
fields) colors. I got some very interesting results when I started 
switching bar-code labels and substituting metallics for regular colors.
There was one major drawback, and I'm sure the main reason they got 
beat out of the US market-the printer laid down a visibly mechanical 
looking dither pattern that made it useless for fine-art printing. 
really too bad, it would print on damn near anything, much cheaper to 
run that an inkjet.

Steve Karafyllakis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Richard Nagle 
<cms01@t...> wrote:

> 
> Well, I have been thinking of purchasing a good B&W photo printer,
> are there any out there that use a silver base color with blacks and
> grey’s?
> 
> or which one does the best for 8x10,12 and 11x14 ?
> 
> Thanks -
> Richard