Digital BW, The Print

I finally got the combo running thanks to Roy's new instructions, BUT,
even though I set the paper size to Super B and my Photoshop image
size is 12.95x19.00, per the Epson driver setting, I only get about
1/4 of the image printed and it doesn't start in the right place -
it's nearly in the center, despite the fact that it only prints the
bottom right corner of the 30 Meg image. Tonality is nice and the
ability to vary it; microbanding is visible under a loupe. 

Below is a copy of the QTR file with the settings I used (with the
blend set for full warm tone).

___________________________________________________________
@color F0
@set PROMPT=$g

set FILE=%1%
set PRINTER=Quad2200

@: ************   Pick one of the following **************
@: set PAGE=Letter
@: set PAGE=Legal
@: set PAGE=Tabloid
set PAGE=SuperB
@: set PAGE=A3
@: set PAGE=A4
@: set PAGE=A5
@: set PAGE=A6
@: set PAGE=A7

set PAGE=SuperB

@: ************  Set Page Orientation  ***************
set ORIENTATION=portrait
@: set ORIENTATION=landscape


@: ************  Set Margin blank= centered **************
@:  basic margins are 1/8 inch all around
@:   TOP and LEFT are in addition to the 1/8 inch
@:  a blank sets centered mode

set TOP=
set LEFT=


@: ************  QuadToneRIP Curves, set both 1 & 2 *************

@:  Epson Enhanced Matte Profiles
set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
set CURVE1=EEM_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-coolSe
@: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-Sepia

@:  Oriental Fibre Profiles -- use Photo Black Ink
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-Sepia
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-warm

@:  Premier Fine Art Profiles (also Hahnemuhle Papers)
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-Sepia
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-warm

set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
set CURVE2=EEM_2200-cool


@: ************  Set Blending = percent of CURVE1  **************
set BLEND=100

@: ************ PRINTERHOST can be used to print through another
machine *******
set PRINTERHOST=

@: ************ SHARENAME if the printer has a different share name
enter here  ****
set SHARENAME=

@: **********this is the resolution, do not change***********
set RES=1440x720hq2

cmd /c "%ProgramFiles%\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
pause
__________________________________________________________________

Same problem I have when I print 11x8.5 on letter on Epson 2200.

Exact same problem.

IS I print 10x8, everything goes fine
If i try 11x8.5, is goes just like you  described.

Try to print 12x18 and see what happens.

-----Original Message-----
From: njfranknj [mailto:njfranknj@...] 
Sent: domingo, 15 de agosto de 2004 23:18
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem


I finally got the combo running thanks to Roy's new instructions, BUT, even
though I set the paper size to Super B and my Photoshop image size is
12.95x19.00, per the Epson driver setting, I only get about 1/4 of the image
printed and it doesn't start in the right place - it's nearly in the center,
despite the fact that it only prints the bottom right corner of the 30 Meg
image. Tonality is nice and the ability to vary it; microbanding is visible
under a loupe. 

Below is a copy of the QTR file with the settings I used (with the blend set
for full warm tone).

___________________________________________________________
@color F0
@set PROMPT=$g

set FILE=%1%
set PRINTER=Quad2200

@: ************   Pick one of the following **************
@: set PAGE=Letter
@: set PAGE=Legal
@: set PAGE=Tabloid
set PAGE=SuperB
@: set PAGE=A3
@: set PAGE=A4
@: set PAGE=A5
@: set PAGE=A6
@: set PAGE=A7

set PAGE=SuperB

@: ************  Set Page Orientation  ***************
set ORIENTATION=portrait
@: set ORIENTATION=landscape


@: ************  Set Margin blank= centered **************
@:  basic margins are 1/8 inch all around
@:   TOP and LEFT are in addition to the 1/8 inch
@:  a blank sets centered mode

set TOP=
set LEFT=


@: ************  QuadToneRIP Curves, set both 1 & 2 *************

@:  Epson Enhanced Matte Profiles
set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
set CURVE1=EEM_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-coolSe
@: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-Sepia

@:  Oriental Fibre Profiles -- use Photo Black Ink
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-Sepia
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-warm

@:  Premier Fine Art Profiles (also Hahnemuhle Papers)
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-Sepia
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-cool
@: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-warm

set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
set CURVE2=EEM_2200-cool


@: ************  Set Blending = percent of CURVE1  ************** set
BLEND=100

@: ************ PRINTERHOST can be used to print through another machine
******* set PRINTERHOST=

@: ************ SHARENAME if the printer has a different share name enter
here  **** set SHARENAME=

@: **********this is the resolution, do not change*********** set
RES=1440x720hq2

cmd /c "%ProgramFiles%\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
pause __________________________________________________________________




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The problem is that the printer is not capable of printing an entire
sheet.  The bottom margin is especially problematic because once the
paper leaves the back roller the quality drops down considerably.

So the way things are now, for sheet paper, is that you have to leave
at least 1/8 inch all around and you really ought to leave at least
.55 inches on the bottom for best quality.  Max image on a 13x19
sheet would be 12.75 x 18.75 and if you want centered, best quality
limit yourself to 12.75 x 17.89

(btw, I think you'll find the same values in the Epson driver).

Roy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" 
<nelson_@r...> wrote:
> Same problem I have when I print 11x8.5 on letter on Epson 2200.
> 
> Exact same problem.
> 
> IS I print 10x8, everything goes fine
> If i try 11x8.5, is goes just like you  described.
> 
> Try to print 12x18 and see what happens.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: njfranknj [mailto:njfranknj@y...] 
> Sent: domingo, 15 de agosto de 2004 23:18
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem
> 
> 
> I finally got the combo running thanks to Roy's new instructions, BUT, even
> though I set the paper size to Super B and my Photoshop image size is
> 12.95x19.00, per the Epson driver setting, I only get about 1/4 of the image
> printed and it doesn't start in the right place - it's nearly in the center,
> despite the fact that it only prints the bottom right corner of the 30 Meg
> image. Tonality is nice and the ability to vary it; microbanding is visible
> under a loupe. 
> 
> Below is a copy of the QTR file with the settings I used (with the blend set
> for full warm tone).
> 
> ___________________________________________________________
> @color F0
> @set PROMPT=$g
> 
> set FILE=%1%
> set PRINTER=Quad2200
> 
> @: ************   Pick one of the following **************
> @: set PAGE=Letter
> @: set PAGE=Legal
> @: set PAGE=Tabloid
> set PAGE=SuperB
> @: set PAGE=A3
> @: set PAGE=A4
> @: set PAGE=A5
> @: set PAGE=A6
> @: set PAGE=A7
> 
> set PAGE=SuperB
> 
> @: ************  Set Page Orientation  ***************
> set ORIENTATION=portrait
> @: set ORIENTATION=landscape
> 
> 
> @: ************  Set Margin blank= centered **************
> @:  basic margins are 1/8 inch all around
> @:   TOP and LEFT are in addition to the 1/8 inch
> @:  a blank sets centered mode
> 
> set TOP=
> set LEFT=
> 
> 
> @: ************  QuadToneRIP Curves, set both 1 & 2 *************
> 
> @:  Epson Enhanced Matte Profiles
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-coolSe
> @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-Sepia
> 
> @:  Oriental Fibre Profiles -- use Photo Black Ink
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-Sepia
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-warm
> 
> @:  Premier Fine Art Profiles (also Hahnemuhle Papers)
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-Sepia
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-warm
> 
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> set CURVE2=EEM_2200-cool
> 
> 
> @: ************  Set Blending = percent of CURVE1  ************** set
> BLEND=100
> 
> @: ************ PRINTERHOST can be used to print through another machine
> ******* set PRINTERHOST=
> 
> @: ************ SHARENAME if the printer has a different share name enter
> here  **** set SHARENAME=
> 
> @: **********this is the resolution, do not change*********** set
> RES=1440x720hq2
> 
> cmd /c "%ProgramFiles%\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
> pause __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
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EXEMPLARY
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THE
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> TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO 
OR
> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT 
OF ANY

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Roy

That´s exactly the numbers the Epson driver gives me.

Problem is: I can send any file to the Epson driver and it takes care of any
size problem.

QTR doesn´t. QTR prints something that is wrong. And in the process it makes
we spend paper and ink.

Is it possible to use some defensive program and avoid this? Something like
"i´m not going to pring this because it´s too big"?

-----Original Message-----
From: Roy Harrington [mailto:roy@...] 
Sent: segunda-feira, 16 de agosto de 2004 00:50
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem



The problem is that the printer is not capable of printing an entire sheet.
The bottom margin is especially problematic because once the paper leaves
the back roller the quality drops down considerably.

So the way things are now, for sheet paper, is that you have to leave at
least 1/8 inch all around and you really ought to leave at least ..55 inches
on the bottom for best quality.  Max image on a 13x19 sheet would be 12.75 x
18.75 and if you want centered, best quality limit yourself to 12.75 x 17.89

(btw, I think you'll find the same values in the Epson driver).

Roy


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" 
<nelson_@r...> wrote:
> Same problem I have when I print 11x8.5 on letter on Epson 2200.
> 
> Exact same problem.
> 
> IS I print 10x8, everything goes fine
> If i try 11x8.5, is goes just like you  described.
> 
> Try to print 12x18 and see what happens.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: njfranknj [mailto:njfranknj@y...]
> Sent: domingo, 15 de agosto de 2004 23:18
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem
> 
> 
> I finally got the combo running thanks to Roy's new instructions, BUT, 
> even though I set the paper size to Super B and my Photoshop image 
> size is 12.95x19.00, per the Epson driver setting, I only get about 
> 1/4 of the image printed and it doesn't start in the right place - 
> it's nearly in the center, despite the fact that it only prints the 
> bottom right corner of the 30 Meg image. Tonality is nice and the 
> ability to vary it; microbanding is visible under a loupe.
> 
> Below is a copy of the QTR file with the settings I used (with the 
> blend set for full warm tone).
> 
> ___________________________________________________________
> @color F0
> @set PROMPT=$g
> 
> set FILE=%1%
> set PRINTER=Quad2200
> 
> @: ************   Pick one of the following **************
> @: set PAGE=Letter
> @: set PAGE=Legal
> @: set PAGE=Tabloid
> set PAGE=SuperB
> @: set PAGE=A3
> @: set PAGE=A4
> @: set PAGE=A5
> @: set PAGE=A6
> @: set PAGE=A7
> 
> set PAGE=SuperB
> 
> @: ************  Set Page Orientation  ***************
> set ORIENTATION=portrait
> @: set ORIENTATION=landscape
> 
> 
> @: ************  Set Margin blank= centered **************
> @:  basic margins are 1/8 inch all around
> @:   TOP and LEFT are in addition to the 1/8 inch
> @:  a blank sets centered mode
> 
> set TOP=
> set LEFT=
> 
> 
> @: ************  QuadToneRIP Curves, set both 1 & 2 *************
> 
> @:  Epson Enhanced Matte Profiles
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-coolSe
> @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-Sepia
> 
> @:  Oriental Fibre Profiles -- use Photo Black Ink
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-Sepia
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-warm
> 
> @:  Premier Fine Art Profiles (also Hahnemuhle Papers)
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-Sepia
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-cool
> @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-warm
> 
> set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> set CURVE2=EEM_2200-cool
> 
> 
> @: ************  Set Blending = percent of CURVE1  ************** set 
> BLEND=100
> 
> @: ************ PRINTERHOST can be used to print through another 
> machine
> ******* set PRINTERHOST=
> 
> @: ************ SHARENAME if the printer has a different share name 
> enter here  **** set SHARENAME=
> 
> @: **********this is the resolution, do not change*********** set 
> RES=1440x720hq2
> 
> cmd /c "%ProgramFiles%\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
> pause 
> __________________________________________________________________
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other 
> resources as they are often being updated.
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> PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" 
> AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE 
> LIABLE
TO YOU
> FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR
EXEMPLARY
> DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, 
> GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  "OWNER" 
> AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN 
> ADVISED OF
THE
> POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE 
> INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) 
> UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO
OR
> ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT
OF ANY
> THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY 
> OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP.
>  
> Yahoo! Groups Links




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GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE  “OWNER” AND
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POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY
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I'll have to look into that possibility.
Do you think refusing to print when it doesn't fit is best?

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" 
<nelson_@r...> wrote:
> Roy
> 
> That´s exactly the numbers the Epson driver gives me.
> 
> Problem is: I can send any file to the Epson driver and it takes care of =
any
> size problem.
> 
> QTR doesn´t. QTR prints something that is wrong. And in the process it ma=
kes
> we spend paper and ink.
> 
> Is it possible to use some defensive program and avoid this? Something li=
ke
> "i´m not going to pring this because it´s too big"?
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roy Harrington [mailto:roy@h...] 
> Sent: segunda-feira, 16 de agosto de 2004 00:50
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem
> 
> 
> 
> The problem is that the printer is not capable of printing an entire shee=
t.
> The bottom margin is especially problematic because once the paper leaves=

> the back roller the quality drops down considerably.
> 
> So the way things are now, for sheet paper, is that you have to leave at
> least 1/8 inch all around and you really ought to leave at least ..55 inc=
hes
> on the bottom for best quality.  Max image on a 13x19 sheet would be 12.7=
5 x
> 18.75 and if you want centered, best quality limit yourself to 12.75 x 17=
.89
> 
> (btw, I think you'll find the same values in the Epson driver).
> 
> Roy
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson Ricciardi" 
> <nelson_@r...> wrote:
> > Same problem I have when I print 11x8.5 on letter on Epson 2200.
> > 
> > Exact same problem.
> > 
> > IS I print 10x8, everything goes fine
> > If i try 11x8.5, is goes just like you  described.
> > 
> > Try to print 12x18 and see what happens.
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: njfranknj [mailto:njfranknj@y...]
> > Sent: domingo, 15 de agosto de 2004 23:18
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Digital BW] QTRbeta3 and Win2K....image problem
> > 
> > 
> > I finally got the combo running thanks to Roy's new instructions, BUT, =

> > even though I set the paper size to Super B and my Photoshop image 
> > size is 12.95x19.00, per the Epson driver setting, I only get about 
> > 1/4 of the image printed and it doesn't start in the right place - 
> > it's nearly in the center, despite the fact that it only prints the 
> > bottom right corner of the 30 Meg image. Tonality is nice and the 
> > ability to vary it; microbanding is visible under a loupe.
> > 
> > Below is a copy of the QTR file with the settings I used (with the 
> > blend set for full warm tone).
> > 
> > ___________________________________________________________
> > @color F0
> > @set PROMPT=$g
> > 
> > set FILE=%1%
> > set PRINTER=Quad2200
> > 
> > @: ************   Pick one of the following **************
> > @: set PAGE=Letter
> > @: set PAGE=Legal
> > @: set PAGE=Tabloid
> > set PAGE=SuperB
> > @: set PAGE=A3
> > @: set PAGE=A4
> > @: set PAGE=A5
> > @: set PAGE=A6
> > @: set PAGE=A7
> > 
> > set PAGE=SuperB
> > 
> > @: ************  Set Page Orientation  ***************
> > set ORIENTATION=portrait
> > @: set ORIENTATION=landscape
> > 
> > 
> > @: ************  Set Margin blank= centered **************
> > @:  basic margins are 1/8 inch all around
> > @:   TOP and LEFT are in addition to the 1/8 inch
> > @:  a blank sets centered mode
> > 
> > set TOP=
> > set LEFT=
> > 
> > 
> > @: ************  QuadToneRIP Curves, set both 1 & 2 *************
> > 
> > @:  Epson Enhanced Matte Profiles
> > set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> > set CURVE1=EEM_2200-cool
> > @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-coolSe
> > @: set CURVE1=EEM_2200-Sepia
> > 
> > @:  Oriental Fibre Profiles -- use Photo Black Ink
> > @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-Sepia
> > @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-cool
> > @: set CURVE1=OFB_2200-warm
> > 
> > @:  Premier Fine Art Profiles (also Hahnemuhle Papers)
> > @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-Sepia
> > @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-cool
> > @: set CURVE1=PFA_2200-warm
> > 
> > set CURVE1=EEM_2200-warm
> > set CURVE2=EEM_2200-cool
> > 
> > 
> > @: ************  Set Blending = percent of CURVE1  ************** set 
> > BLEND=100
> > 
> > @: ************ PRINTERHOST can be used to print through another 
> > machine
> > ******* set PRINTERHOST=
> > 
> > @: ************ SHARENAME if the printer has a different share name 
> > enter here  **** set SHARENAME=
> > 
> > @: **********this is the resolution, do not change*********** set 
> > RES=1440x720hq2
> > 
> > cmd /c "%ProgramFiles%\QuadToneRIP\bin\quadtoneprint"
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Roy Harrington"
<roy@h...> wrote:
> 
> I'll have to look into that possibility.
> Do you think refusing to print when it doesn't fit is best?
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
For me it would be better than wasting a full sheet by printing a
small block in the middle of the sheet. Advice on what to do about it,
that is, trim the edges, 1/2 inch or so, would be useful, too, in case
there are other reasons to abort the print.

I'm a little confused by your statements about image quality at the
edges in reference to my original message: I'm not talking about loss
of quality at the edges, my page file has a blank space (pure ehite
paper) for at least 3/4 inch all around, but the actual image was
chopped down to only one corner(less than 1/4 of the total image area)
and that was centered on the sheet with several inches wasted space
all around.

I send a file to the printer that is the same size as the paper,
regardless of the image size because I want to be able to place the
image on the page as I see fit, not just centered, and that's easiest
to do in Photoshop, where I can actually see where it lies. Normally,
I do a dest strip at one end before printing the full image; I place
that strip at one edge of the paper and leave out the full image, then
omit the strip and print the full image in the clear area on the same
sheet. It solves some problems for me due to my sporadic printing
splurges and long periods of lay-off. The test strips often see
further use in my wife's hands by being made into bookmarks.