Digital BW, The Print

I'm a recent convert to QTR (and love it so far).  I use a 2200 (with 
mk inkset) on a WinXP platform.  There are limited tone curves 
available and it seems many papers are not yet supported.  

I have printed a fair amount on EpEnhMatte, but would like to use 
other matte papers for which no tone curve exists (at least in the 
v2.1b download from Roy's site).  I was wondering what the results 
would be like if you printed on another matte paper, such as Moab 
Entrada Bright White or Somerset Photo Enhanced Radiant White, using 
the EpEnhMatte profiles?

I am assuming there will be differences in both tonal response, Dmax, 
and color when changing from one paper to another.  

When printing color images, I know there can be significant 
differences between papers, but I thought perhaps these differences 
might be more subdued with B&W or toned B&W.

Any suggestions on how I can get good results without custom tone 
curves for these papers?  

Or how I can create my own tone curves?  (I have a spectro and PM5).  

Or, is there a repository of tone curves available somewhere?

Thanks.....and Merry Christmas!

Lou

I'm a recent and happy convert to QTR.  I'm using a 2200 (mk ink) on 
a WinXP platform.  

I have printed a fair amount on EpEnhMatte paper, but would like to 
try Moab Entrada Bright White and Somerset Brilliant White (I have 
supplies of both), but don't have tone curves for these papers.

How will different matte papers perform using the Matte ink setting 
and the EpEnhMatte tone curves?  I assume the tonality and color will 
be a little different, and perhaps Dmax too.  

Any suggestions on how to print to these papers for best results?

I'd love to be able to build my own tone curves, obtain copies of 
others' prebuilt curves, etc.  

I'd appreciate any guidance.

Thanks.....and Merry Christmas.

Lou

Lou,

I posted these .quad files for PC users in the group a couple of months 
ago.  The MBW should work fine for your Entrada Bright White.

Carl

I've put a zip archive containing Epson 2200 QTR profiles (.quad files) 
for several papers on my filesharing site.  The file to download is 
titled QUAD2200.zip and it can be found here:
http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing2.html

The papers included are as follows:

Papers for use with UC Photo Black ink (pk):
PJO - Permajet Oyster
MCL- InkJetart Microceramic Luster (can also be used for Epson premium 
luster)
OrientalFB - Oriental Graphica Fiber Base Glossy
EPreSemiGl - Epson Premium Semigloss

Papers for use with UC Matte Black ink (mk):
MBW- Piezography Museum Bright White (also for Entrada Bright white or 
Condor BW)
EFAn - Entrada Fine Art Natural
HPR - Hahnemuhle Photo Rag
PremierFineArt - Premier Fine Art Natural (same as epson ultrasmooth)
EEnhMatte -  Epson Enhanced Matte

For use with any RC paper - uses no black ink so either pk or mk can be 
loaded:
UC-RC-NoK

On Dec 24, 2004, at 10:05 AM, ldina wrote:

>
>
> I'm a recent convert to QTR (and love it so far).  I use a 2200 (with
> mk inkset) on a WinXP platform.  There are limited tone curves
> available and it seems many papers are not yet supported.
>
> I have printed a fair amount on EpEnhMatte, but would like to use
> other matte papers for which no tone curve exists (at least in the
> v2.1b download from Roy's site).  I was wondering what the results
> would be like if you printed on another matte paper, such as Moab
> Entrada Bright White or Somerset Photo Enhanced Radiant White, using
> the EpEnhMatte profiles?
>
> I am assuming there will be differences in both tonal response, Dmax,
> and color when changing from one paper to another.
>
> When printing color images, I know there can be significant
> differences between papers, but I thought perhaps these differences
> might be more subdued with B&W or toned B&W.
>
> Any suggestions on how I can get good results without custom tone
> curves for these papers?
>
> Or how I can create my own tone curves?  (I have a spectro and PM5).
>
> Or, is there a repository of tone curves available somewhere?
>
> Thanks.....and Merry Christmas!
>
> Lou

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@m...> wrote:
> Lou,
> 
> I posted these .quad files for PC users in the group a couple of
months ago ...

> I've put a zip archive containing _Epson 2200_ QTR profiles (.quad
files) 
> for several papers on my filesharing site.  The file to download is 
> titled QUAD2200.zip and it can be found here:
> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing2.html

Carl

Hello Carl

That's what I did, too. But: I am on a XP Professional + EPSON _2100_
platform and I can't talk GUI into displaying your profiles in the
Curve drop-down list of GUI. Any suggestions? Thanks

Chatzebussi

Did you put the .quad files in the same folder with your other profiles?

On Dec 25, 2004, at 4:50 AM, chatzebussi wrote:

>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <scho@m...> wrote:
>> Lou,
>>
>> I posted these .quad files for PC users in the group a couple of
> months ago ...
>
>> I've put a zip archive containing _Epson 2200_ QTR profiles (.quad
> files)
>> for several papers on my filesharing site.  The file to download is
>> titled QUAD2200.zip and it can be found here:
>> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing2.html
>
> Carl
>
> Hello Carl
>
> That's what I did, too. But: I am on a XP Professional + EPSON _2100_
> platform and I can't talk GUI into displaying your profiles in the
> Curve drop-down list of GUI. Any suggestions? Thanks
>
> Chatzebussi
>
>
>
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
<scho@m...> wrote:
> Did you put the .quad files in the same folder with your other profiles?
> 
> On Dec 25, 2004, at 4:50 AM, chatzebussi wrote:
> 
> >
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> > <scho@m...> wrote:
> >> Lou,
> >>
> >> I posted these .quad files for PC users in the group a couple of
> > months ago ...
> >
> >> I've put a zip archive containing _Epson 2200_ QTR profiles (.quad
> > files)
> >> for several papers on my filesharing site.  The file to download is
> >> titled QUAD2200.zip and it can be found here:
> >> http://homepage.mac.com/scho/FileSharing2.html
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > Hello Carl
> >
> > That's what I did, too. But: I am on a XP Professional + EPSON _2100_
> > platform and I can't talk GUI into displaying your profiles in the
> > Curve drop-down list of GUI. Any suggestions? Thanks
> >
> > Chatzebussi
> >
> >
> No, I didn't actually. What a shame! It's working perfectly now.
Thanks a lot.

Chatzebussi


> >