Digital BW, The Print

Antonio-

Have you had any issues with the Lyon ink cartridges?



Bill Kennedy
Associate Professor of Photocommunications
St. Edward's University
512/448-8680


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Antonio,

I have been using the Lyson Quad with an S9000, not exactly the same
printer, but 6 color and probably uses very similar drivers. I get
decent prints, although I have recently moved to Espon with MIS
pigment inks and like the results much better  so far.
A few notes:

I get acceptable images from the Lyson/Canon combo (albeit some
magenta metamerism) using a PS CS workflow with Epson EEM paper. I
have found that the Lyson ICC profiles are ok, but dont add too much.
I also have found that adding +5 to the 'Intensity' setting in the
print driver gives richer print results.

I've also had lousy results printing on Photo rag, William Turner and
Entrada. Flat. No punch. I think it has to do with the *amount* of ink
being used. Turning up the *intensity* on all color sliders helps.

Can you provide more detail regarding your workflow, your exact print
driver setting, paper, etc. 

And, of course, Bill has an excellent point bwlow in regards to double
checking that the cartridges are working. Did you do a printer pattern
test to make sure all cartridges are flowing? 

Howard



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, BKPhoto@a... wrote:

> Antonio-
> 
> Have you had any issues with the Lyon ink cartridges?
> 
> 
> 
> Bill Kennedy
> Associate Professor of Photocommunications
> St. Edward's University
> 512/448-8680
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

i was using lyson quads on an epson 1200, and was able to get decent 
prints, on matte paper only. Even then, it was trial and error. The 
lyson profiles were so far off that it was amazing. I went thru about 3 
sets of inks, before i got them to print well. Then, the prints had a 
bit of greenish tint, which on some papers was real bad. As I recall, 
crane museo ended up being about the best. EEM I could never get to 
work. Blotchy, posterized etc..... museo has a warm color that 
neutralized the inks. Those museo prints are about as good as I get on 
my 1280 with UT2 inks, except the tone of the UT2 is controllable. 
Ilford classic pearl was good except that it was really green. All 
glossy papers were terrible, and i tried everything out there. ( i 
think). Bottom line is, experiment experiment experiment. Also, if you 
are using a mac, dont use the gimp driver.
It might be better to get a 60 dollar epson C86, and use MIS EZ's. Then 
you could tap into the knowledge on Mr. Roarks website. That would 
probably cost the same as three sets of lyson carts! something to think 
about, if you can deal letter size as the Maximum size.
good luck and hang in there, making one little adjustment at a 
time...Doug M

You are never going to eliminate the metamerism with the Lyson quads or even their small 
gamut set that is a little better. They are reddish under tungsten and greenish under 
daylight. Move on to carbon pigment and you will be pleasantly surprised at the difference.

John

John,
 
to your knowledge, what carbon pigment inks are available for my Canon i965 printer? Although digital B&W printing appears to be only Epson, tha Canon i965 should be a nice alternative, given its 2880 resolution, 2 pico-liters drops and the 6 separate cartridges.
 
Antonio

john dean <deanwork2003@...> wrote:

You are never going to eliminate the metamerism with the Lyson quads or even their small 
gamut set that is a little better. They are reddish under tungsten and greenish under 
daylight. Move on to carbon pigment and you will be pleasantly surprised at the difference.

John





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