Digital BW, The Print

Hi all.... I've been printing on a 2200 for about a year and a half now, and have been using 
the UT7s since they were made available for this printer.  Suddenly I'm noticing 
microbanding.  The nozzle checks are perfect except on the second pattern from the right 
(is this the LM cart?) there is a disruption:  one of the little diagonals, at one end, doesn't 
join it's neighbor, as if it's bent down.  Only the one.  Is this possible the cause of the 
banding?  And if so, what to do about it?

Ed

I recently started using UT7 ink carts for my 2200 and was 
experiencing a lot of banding and other problems. When I called MIS 
tech support, the first thing they told me was to make sure to remove 
ALL of the silver tape on the top of the cart (which I hadn't done) so 
that the small ventilation holes are clear. Now that I have done so, 
the results are much better and the banding is less frequent, but I 
still must run the nozzle check once or twice before I make a print to 
make sure there are no gaps in the test pattern segments. I find if 
there are gaps, I get get the banding.
Hope this helps.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" 
<erudolph@p...> wrote:
> Hi all.... I've been printing on a 2200 for about a year and a half 
now, and have been using 
> the UT7s since they were made available for this printer.  Suddenly 
I'm noticing 
> microbanding.  The nozzle checks are perfect except on the second 
pattern from the right 
> (is this the LM cart?) there is a disruption:  one of the little 
diagonals, at one end, doesn't 
> join it's neighbor, as if it's bent down.  Only the one.  Is this 
possible the cause of the 

> banding?  And if so, what to do about it?
> 
> Ed

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "SteveZ" <blizzie12@y...> wrote:
> I recently started using UT7 ink carts for my 2200 and was 
> experiencing a lot of banding and other problems. When I called MIS 
> tech support, the first thing they told me was to make sure to remove 
> ALL of the silver tape on the top of the cart (which I hadn't done) so 
> that the small ventilation holes are clear. Now that I have done so, 
> the results are much better and the banding is less frequent, but I 
> still must run the nozzle check once or twice before I make a print to 
> make sure there are no gaps in the test pattern segments. I find if 
> there are gaps, I get get the banding.
> Hope this helps.
> 

thanks steve... i have the ape off and a perfect nozzle check except for that small anomaly 
which i think may be a tiny problem with the head.  by the way, i'm not sure why running a 
nozzle check gets you better prints??  isn't it a diagnostic procedure rather than a fix?

ed

I run the nozzle cleaning cycle until there are no gaps in the test 
pattern segments. With UC ink carts, I never have to do that. With 
UT7 inks, I must do this often to get a decent print with no 
banding. It's possible you do have a problem with one of your heads, 
but I'm finding that these ink carts are very quirky.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "edrudolpho" 
<erudolph@p...> wrote:
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "SteveZ" 
<blizzie12@y...> wrote:
> > I recently started using UT7 ink carts for my 2200 and was 
> > experiencing a lot of banding and other problems. When I called 
MIS 
> > tech support, the first thing they told me was to make sure to 
remove 
> > ALL of the silver tape on the top of the cart (which I hadn't 
done) so 
> > that the small ventilation holes are clear. Now that I have done 
so, 
> > the results are much better and the banding is less frequent, 
but I 
> > still must run the nozzle check once or twice before I make a 
print to 
> > make sure there are no gaps in the test pattern segments. I find 
if 
> > there are gaps, I get get the banding.
> > Hope this helps.
> > 
> 
> thanks steve... i have the ape off and a perfect nozzle check 
except for that small anomaly 
> which i think may be a tiny problem with the head.  by the way, 
i'm not sure why running a 
> nozzle check gets you better prints??  isn't it a diagnostic 
procedure rather than a fix?
> 
> ed

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "SteveZ" <blizzie12@y...> wrote:
> I run the nozzle cleaning cycle until there are no gaps in the test 
> pattern segments. With UC ink carts, I never have to do that. With 
> UT7 inks, I must do this often to get a decent print with no 
> banding. It's possible you do have a problem with one of your heads, 
> but I'm finding that these ink carts are very quirky.

Thanks again Steve.  I think you were right and it was indeed the smallest possible clog.  
The nozzle check pattern confused me at first.  :-)

Ed

It sounds like it's time to clean the underside of the head.  Junk seems to
build up next to a jet and ends up deflecting it.

In the past I used a folded strip of paper towel for this (1/2 inch wide
after being folded to 3 thicknesses).  Now I use 1/2 inch cloth bias tape
(from Wal-Mart of any sewing shop).

I soak the bias tape with Windex, put it in the trough of the printer where
the head goes, release the head (printer off), and move the head over the
tape.  Once it's over the tape, I grab the ends of the tape and pull it back
and forth across the head.  (Expect black fingers.)

Once this is done, a single cleaning cycle usually gets rid of the deflected
jet.

If this doesn't work, it might be time to load cleaning fluid and let it sit
for a week.

Good luck.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

> -----Original Message-----
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> edrudolpho
> Sent: Thursday, June 23, 2005 4:59 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] 2200 microbanding
> 
> Hi all.... I've been printing on a 2200 for about a year and a half now,
> and have been using
> the UT7s since they were made available for this printer.  Suddenly I'm
> noticing
> microbanding.  The nozzle checks are perfect except on the second pattern
> from the right
> (is this the LM cart?) there is a disruption:  one of the little
> diagonals, at one end, doesn't
> join it's neighbor, as if it's bent down.  Only the one.  Is this possible
> the cause of the
> banding?  And if so, what to do about it?
> 
> Ed
> 
> 
> 
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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
wrote:
> It sounds like it's time to clean the underside of the head.  Junk seems to
> build up next to a jet and ends up deflecting it.

Thanks Paul!

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> 
wrote:
> It sounds like it's time to clean the underside of the head.  <snip>  I grab the ends of 
the tape and pull it back
> and forth across the head.  (Expect black fingers.)


I suggest buying a box of disposable latex gloves at the local pharmacy. Flip each one 
inside out when you're done and your fingers stay clean!

Michael

Although carbon particles are suspected carcinogens when inhaled, I've never
heard that ink on the fingers is a risk.  Is there any evidence of this?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
> michaelrosensf
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:20 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 2200 microbanding and black fingers
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...>
> wrote:
> > It sounds like it's time to clean the underside of the head.  <snip>  I
> grab the ends of
> the tape and pull it back
> > and forth across the head.  (Expect black fingers.)
> 
> 
> I suggest buying a box of disposable latex gloves at the local pharmacy.
> Flip each one
> inside out when you're done and your fingers stay clean!
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
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On Jun 26, 2005, at 2:45 PM, Paul Roark wrote:

> Although carbon particles are suspected carcinogens when inhaled,  
> I've never
> heard that ink on the fingers is a risk.  Is there any evidence of  
> this?

Hi, Paul

There are a few obvious substances that could prove fatal with even  
one exposure- HIV, cyanide, arsenic, for example.  Anything else,  
even if it falls in the
"suspected carcinogen" category, poses little threat with the rare  
exposure.  So, unless someone is planning to get ink on their hands  
day after day after day,  the risk is probably exceedingly small. I  
just wear hospital gloves when I fill carts, but just to avoid the  
staining, not because I'm worried about the toxicity of the ink.   
Charcoal from outdoor grilling has been shown to be carcinogenic,  
apparently, but most people will continue to risk burgers, if they're  
so inclined.

James

Yes Paul,
             There has been some instances recorded in Europe with Flexo Ink, but I know of nothing with regard to Ink-jet Ink, but of course carbons used in Laser Toners are Highly Toxic in the wrong circumstances.
 
John Edmunds

Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> wrote:
Although carbon particles are suspected carcinogens when inhaled, I've never
heard that ink on the fingers is a risk.  Is there any evidence of this?

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com 


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> michaelrosensf
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2005 1:20 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 2200 microbanding and black fingers
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...>
> wrote:
> > It sounds like it's time to clean the underside of the head.  <snip>  I
> grab the ends of
> the tape and pull it back
> > and forth across the head.  (Expect black fingers.)
> 
> 
> I suggest buying a box of disposable latex gloves at the local pharmacy.
> Flip each one
> inside out when you're done and your fingers stay clean!
> 
> Michael
> 
> 
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