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QTR curves vs. C86 and sliders - Add QTR GUI Curvies?

QTR curves vs. C86 and sliders - Add QTR GUI Curvies?

2005-08-25 by Scott McLoughlin

I just have a question about printing methods, papers and control.

QTR offers an amazing level of control with the requisite input and
LOE of creating curves for one's papers and inks, buying/using a
densitometer and attendent software and the like.

Paul's C86 + MIS Quadtone inks provides an amazing level of
convencience, and pretty remarkable "out of the box" results with a
wide variety of papers using just the Epson driver and the various
sliders.  Only a few papers seem to warrant application of an adjustment
curve. Pretty amazing if you think about it.

Since QTR can control so many different printers, I wonder if the addition
of a few slider controls to QTR GUI could offer the convenience and
quality of results of the C86 system but with a wider variety of 
papers/printers
to folks (I guess like me) who don't have the tools/acumen to profile their
own papers. 

For example, perhaps some QTR GUI sliders plus using some "base curves"
(like the EEM curves or Entrada curves or whatever), might yield suitable
results on different matte papers for which dedicated curves are not 
available,
or perhaps, not yet available.

For example, with 2200 or 4000 UC "2K"  printing.  Or is it the Quad inkset
itself which allows for such flexibility, convenience and results with 
Paul's
C86 system?

Just a thought and a question.

Thansk for all and any enlightenment.

Scott

Re: [Digital BW] QTR curves vs. C86 and sliders - Add QTR GUI Sliders?

2005-08-25 by Scott McLoughlin

Whoops, meant in the Subject line to say, add Sliders to QTR Gui.

My bad.

Scott

Scott McLoughlin wrote:
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> I just have a question about printing methods, papers and control.
>
> QTR offers an amazing level of control with the requisite input and
> LOE of creating curves for one's papers and inks, buying/using a
> densitometer and attendent software and the like.
>
> Paul's C86 + MIS Quadtone inks provides an amazing level of
> convencience, and pretty remarkable "out of the box" results with a
> wide variety of papers using just the Epson driver and the various
> sliders. Only a few papers seem to warrant application of an adjustment
> curve. Pretty amazing if you think about it.
>
> Since QTR can control so many different printers, I wonder if the addition
> of a few slider controls to QTR GUI could offer the convenience and
> quality of results of the C86 system but with a wider variety of
> papers/printers
> to folks (I guess like me) who don't have the tools/acumen to profile 
> their
> own papers.
>
> For example, perhaps some QTR GUI sliders plus using some "base curves"
> (like the EEM curves or Entrada curves or whatever), might yield suitable
> results on different matte papers for which dedicated curves are not
> available,
> or perhaps, not yet available.
>
> For example, with 2200 or 4000 UC "2K" printing. Or is it the Quad inkset
> itself which allows for such flexibility, convenience and results with
> Paul's
> C86 system?
>
> Just a thought and a question.
>
> Thansk for all and any enlightenment.
>
> Scott
>
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