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2005-09-19 by Steve Kale
I am thinking about buying some framing equipment. Any views re FrameCo equipment? For example, the 1060B mat cutter vs, say, the Logan Simplex Plus 750 which is much more expensive. What about joiners and saws. Thanks Steve
2005-09-20 by Ken Carney
Steve, I have in the past bought some of this gear to do my own framing. It's all gone now. My 2c would be to hire it out, which is what I do now. I finally found an artist, a painter, who does framing to supplement her income. She knows my framing formula, so all I have to do is give her prints. The other day she framed 15 prints (16x20 gallery frames, museum rag board with a floating window beautifully cut) for $525 including materials. There is no way I would do that myself when I could use that time to take more photos. Absent that alternative, all I can tell you is to spend about twice as much or more than you think you need on a mat cutter, to keep your sanity. I really suggest trying the Logan and then trying a professional cutter such as the C&H - about $1,200 with accessories. --Ken
> -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Steve Kale > Sent: Monday, September 19, 2005 3:28 PM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Framing - Any views on FrameCo products? > > I am thinking about buying some framing equipment. Any views > re FrameCo equipment? For example, the 1060B mat cutter vs, > say, the Logan Simplex Plus 750 which is much more expensive. > What about joiners and saws. > > Thanks > > Steve
2005-09-20 by Steve Kale
If I could get 15 prints archival framed for $525 I doubt I would be looking into this. In the UK that would cost me at least $3,200 !! Even if I order from Frame Destination in the US it would cost around $2,000. It seems most moulding suppliers offer a chop service which probably sounds like it's worth paying for - no saws and perfect mitres. I am not up for a C&H mat cutter - amortising $1,200 (assuming I pay US prices) would take a while. I am wondering if the Logan or Frameco cutter is for all practical purposes just as good albeit not necessarily as "built to last". (Not even many frame shops use a computerised cutter.) I would want to cut 8 ply mats comfortably. As for the joining equipment this seems fairly straight forward. I don't need a pneumatic machine as I am comfortable my volumes aren't going to exhaust my arm and it seems even the Logan/FrameCo options will comfortably drive into even hard woods. Steve
> From: Ken Carney <kcarney1@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2005 20:12:24 -0500 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Framing - Any views on FrameCo products? > > Steve, > > I have in the past bought some of this gear to do my own framing. It's all > gone now. My 2c would be to hire it out, which is what I do now. I finally > found an artist, a painter, who does framing to supplement her income. She > knows my framing formula, so all I have to do is give her prints. The other > day she framed 15 prints (16x20 gallery frames, museum rag board with a > floating window beautifully cut) for $525 including materials. There is no > way I would do that myself when I could use that time to take more photos. > Absent that alternative, all I can tell you is to spend about twice as much > or more than you think you need on a mat cutter, to keep your sanity. I > really suggest trying the Logan and then trying a professional cutter such > as the C&H - about $1,200 with accessories. > > --Ken
2005-09-20 by John Moody
Steve, It sounds like you are asking "is this D/A good enough". You know the drill.. In the states, there are do it yourself frame shops that let you make frames with sub-standard tools, i.e. hammer and entry-level corner vise. If you have access to the same, it might be worth trying one out to see if you are satisfied. I use a Logan, and get good results with slow methodical practice and fresh blades. If I try to hurry it, there is a tendency to get cuts that are not perfectly straight. I don't use 8-ply so I don't know if that would be any different other than just harder on the arms. Best regards, John Moody
-----Original Message----- From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steve Kale Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2005 4:41 AM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Framing - Any views on FrameCo products? If I could get 15 prints archival framed for $525 I doubt I would be looking into this. In the UK that would cost me at least $3,200 !! Even if I order from Frame Destination in the US it would cost around $2,000. It seems most moulding suppliers offer a chop service which probably sounds like it's worth paying for - no saws and perfect mitres. I am not up for a C&H mat cutter - amortising $1,200 (assuming I pay US prices) would take a while. I am wondering if the Logan or Frameco cutter is for all practical purposes just as good albeit not necessarily as "built to last". (Not even many frame shops use a computerised cutter.) I would want to cut 8 ply mats comfortably. As for the joining equipment this seems fairly straight forward. I don't need a pneumatic machine as I am comfortable my volumes aren't going to exhaust my arm and it seems even the Logan/FrameCo options will comfortably drive into even hard woods. Steve [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]