Digital BW, The Print

Clayton-

On the samples of HPR and Dourian I have, the Dourian looks slightly 
darker (grayer?) than the HPR under ordinary light, but the Dourian 
shows much more fluorescene than the HPR under black light.  The 
fluorescense of the VFA, in turn, looks somewhat higher than the 
Dourian.  So, I wouldn't think the HPR and Dourian are identical 
products physically.  Visually I find them essentially identical 
(except for the paper color).

Walt

These Red River papers are loaded with OBAs. Their Premium Matte just
explodes off the page with color intensity and the illusion of greater
tonal range due to the ultra white (bluish) white base. The designers
love it for this reason. If they don't care about longevity its their
work. I wonder if Red River with this rag paper is taking Hahnemuhle
stock and coating it themselves. Can an OBA be added to a paper during
the receptive layer coating process or does it have to be done in the
initial paper making procedure.

john






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets"
<odets@c...> wrote:

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> Clayton-
> 
> On the samples of HPR and Dourian I have, the Dourian looks slightly 
> darker (grayer?) than the HPR under ordinary light, but the Dourian 
> shows much more fluorescene than the HPR under black light.  The 
> fluorescense of the VFA, in turn, looks somewhat higher than the 
> Dourian.  So, I wouldn't think the HPR and Dourian are identical 
> products physically.  Visually I find them essentially identical 
> (except for the paper color).
> 
> Walt
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
>
> Can an OBA be added to a paper during
> the receptive layer coating process or does it have to be done in the
> initial paper making procedure.
> 
>

I think I remember reading from Diana at Hawk Mountain that it can be 
added to the paper base, or the coating, or both.

>I think I remember reading from Diana at Hawk Mountain that it can be 
>added to the paper base, or the coating, or both.

Sounds like the quote from her in my "Great Paper Chase" article.


Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@c...> wrote:
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> >I think I remember reading from Diana at Hawk Mountain that it can 
be 
> >added to the paper base, or the coating, or both.
> 
> Sounds like the quote from her in my "Great Paper Chase" article.
> 
> 


That's possible, I can't really remember where I read it, just that I 
read it and remembered it.