Digital BW, The Print

Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:

\ufffd imagePROGRAF iPF5000

http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_printer_due_in_april/

\ufffd PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10 
pigment ink cartridges with Canon\ufffds new Lucia pigmented inks 
which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta, 
magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and 
monochrome prints.

\ufffd PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink 
cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software 
to help speed up workflow.


Ernst

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           Ernst Dinkla


www.pigment-print.com
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Outback photo has the Canon press release too.

> Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:
> 
> \ufffd imagePROGRAF iPF5000
> 
> http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_printer_due_in_april/
> 
> \ufffd PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10 
> pigment ink cartridges with Canon\ufffds new Lucia pigmented inks 
> which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta, 
> magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and 
> monochrome prints.
> 
> \ufffd PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink 
> cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software 
> to help speed up workflow.

For the last two see:

http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/canon_02212006_pixmapro_pr.html

Ernst



                    --
           Ernst Dinkla


www.pigment-print.com
(         unvollendet         )

Glad to see that Canon is on its way! I wonder how long before the 44"
version? Their current offerings are 6 channel machines. And, I wonder
the price. I think they just may be going after Epson's market after
all. Glad I waited on my 9800. Wonder if ole Wilhelm is going to
promote em and what that would do to his Epson contracts.

john





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:
> > 
> > ° imagePROGRAF iPF5000
> > 
> >
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_printer_due_in_april/

> > 
> > ° PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10 
> > pigment ink cartridges with Canon's new Lucia pigmented inks 
> > which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta, 
> > magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and 
> > monochrome prints.
> > 
> > ° PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink 
> > cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software 
> > to help speed up workflow.
> 
> For the last two see:
> 
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/canon_02212006_pixmapro_pr.html
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
> 
>                     --
>            Ernst Dinkla
> 
> 
> www.pigment-print.com
> (         unvollendet         )
>

This is great news for the "comsumer". Nothing like competition in a 
free market.

Canon has the resources to crush Epson if they so choose to.

Hopefully, Canon's pigment inks will rival Epson's in the longevity 
testing. That's what everyone will be looking at, IMO.

I never had a fault with Canon printers, other than the fact that the 
inks faded relatively fast.

I looking forward to the "data" and "testing". Bring it on!  :>)

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla 
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
>
> 
> > Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:
> > 
> > ° imagePROGRAF iPF5000
> > 
> > 
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_p
rinter_due_in_april/

> > 
> > ° PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10 
> > pigment ink cartridges with Canon's new Lucia pigmented inks 
> > which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta, 
> > magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and 
> > monochrome prints.
> > 
> > ° PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink 
> > cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software 
> > to help speed up workflow.
> 
> For the last two see:
> 
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/canon_02212006_pixmapro_pr.html
> 
> Ernst
> 
> 
> 
>                     --
>            Ernst Dinkla
> 
> 
> www.pigment-print.com
> (         unvollendet         )
>

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
<deanwork2003@...> wrote:
>
> Glad to see that Canon is on its way! I wonder how long before the 44"
> version? Their current offerings are 6 channel machines. And, I wonder
> the price. I think they just may be going after Epson's market after
> all. Glad I waited on my 9800. Wonder if ole Wilhelm is going to
> promote em and what that would do to his Epson contracts.
> 
> john
> 

Download and read the press release, yes there is a statement fro Mr. 
Wilhelm.

Great news, indeed! Has anyone seen any guesses as to the price ranges for 
these machines?
My hope would be that they would undercut Epson by a couple of hundred, 
forcing Epson to drop by a little more, and so on, and so on....<G>
Bert

katzung1@...
www.astronomy-images.com
www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:43 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Canon 10 and 12 color pigment printers


This is great news for the "comsumer". Nothing like competition in a
free market.

Canon has the resources to crush Epson if they so choose to.

Hopefully, Canon's pigment inks will rival Epson's in the longevity
testing. That's what everyone will be looking at, IMO.

I never had a fault with Canon printers, other than the fact that the
inks faded relatively fast.

I looking forward to the "data" and "testing". Bring it on!  :>)

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
>
>
> > Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:
> >
> > \ufffd imagePROGRAF iPF5000
> >
> >
http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_p
rinter_due_in_april/

> >
> > \ufffd PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10
> > pigment ink cartridges with Canon's new Lucia pigmented inks
> > which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta,
> > magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and
> > monochrome prints.
> >
> > \ufffd PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink
> > cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software
> > to help speed up workflow.
>
> For the last two see:
>
> http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/canon_02212006_pixmapro_pr.html
>
> Ernst
>

http://www.outbackphoto.com/news/pma2006/canon/022106_PMA_PixmaPro.pdf


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Bert Katzung"
<katzung1@...> wrote:
>
> Great news, indeed! Has anyone seen any guesses as to the price
ranges for 

> these machines?
> My hope would be that they would undercut Epson by a couple of hundred, 
> forcing Epson to drop by a little more, and so on, and so on....<G>
> Bert
> 
> katzung1@...
> www.astronomy-images.com
> www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "scott_now_coming" <scott_now_coming@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, February 21, 2006 1:43 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Canon 10 and 12 color pigment printers
> 
> 
> This is great news for the "comsumer". Nothing like competition in a
> free market.
> 
> Canon has the resources to crush Epson if they so choose to.
> 
> Hopefully, Canon's pigment inks will rival Epson's in the longevity
> testing. That's what everyone will be looking at, IMO.
> 
> I never had a fault with Canon printers, other than the fact that the
> inks faded relatively fast.
> 
> I looking forward to the "data" and "testing". Bring it on!  :>)
> 
> Scott
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
> <E.Dinkla@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > Seems like Canon soon delivers the printers we like to have:
> > >
> > > ° imagePROGRAF iPF5000
> > >
> > >
> http://www.macsimumnews.com/index.php/archive/new_large_format_canon_p
> rinter_due_in_april/
> > >
> > > ° PIXMA Pro9500 model, the first PIXMA photo printer to use 10
> > > pigment ink cartridges with Canon's new Lucia pigmented inks
> > > which provide photo black, matte black, gray, photo magenta,
> > > magenta, photo cyan, cyan, yellow, green and red for color and
> > > monochrome prints.
> > >
> > > ° PIXMA Pro9000 printer, which uses eight dye-based ink
> > > cartridge and new Direct Print features and bundled software
> > > to help speed up workflow.
> >
> > For the last two see:
> >
> > http://www.steves-digicams.com/pr/canon_02212006_pixmapro_pr.html
> >
> > Ernst
> >
>

On 2/21/06 7:10 PM, "ginnylady33" <ginnylady33@...> wrote:

> 
> http://www.outbackphoto.com/news/pma2006/canon/022106_PMA_PixmaPro.pdf
> 
> 
> Has anyone heard of a tentative arrival date for the new printers¹
> availability?
> 
> -Holly



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A lot of info in this thread:

http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1003&message=17279208

Best
Howard


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Holly Hegeman
<hhegeman@...> wrote:

>
> On 2/21/06 7:10 PM, "ginnylady33" <ginnylady33@...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > http://www.outbackphoto.com/news/pma2006/canon/022106_PMA_PixmaPro.pdf
> > 
> > 
> > Has anyone heard of a tentative arrival date for the new printers¹
> > availability?
> > 
> > -Holly
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

In a message dated 2/21/06 6:11:37 PM, katzung1@... writes:


> Great news, indeed! Has anyone seen any guesses as to the price ranges for
> these machines?
> My hope would be that they would undercut Epson by a couple of hundred,
> forcing Epson to drop by a little more, and so on, and so on....<G>
> 

Printer prices are already significantly subsidized by ink costs. Cheaper 
printers is not as much of an issue here, as more affordable printing. Currently 
self-printed photo prints cost much more than ordered photo prints; if Epson 
succeeds in shutting down the third party ink market, then the balance of 
factors in photoprinter choices will become even more focused Competition against 
Epson will be based (since print quality is already fine from all three 
vendors, and longevity issues are being attacked by Canon as we speak) on TCO: Total 
Cost of Ownership, which is based on the cost of the device, inks, and media, 
factoring in warranty, repair costs, and longevity. 

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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