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Neutral7 for an 8 channel printer

Neutral7 for an 8 channel printer

2006-05-22 by akos_szilvasi

I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's support 
is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw 
prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves to 
start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I 
bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.

Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with no 
hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into the "gloss 
optimizer" channel. 

Could you help me?

Thansk, Akos

[Digital BW] New Member Intro

2006-05-24 by Sean Smith

Hi Folks,  My name is Sean and I live in South Africa.  I've been doing
amateur photography since 2001 and greatly enjoy black & white photography.
My twin daughters (aged 11) also both enjoy amateur photography although
they only started a few months ago.
 
For equipment I have a collection of 14 Russian SLR cameras dating from 1959
to 2005.  Due to the high costs of developing and printing here I now only
have my films developed and then scan the neg's into digital format using a
Canon LIDE 80 scanner.
 
For printing I use and Epson Photo R200 printer and for quick digital
photo's I use a Canon Powershot A520 (although a Canon 350D is on my
Christmas wish list).
 
I'm looking to learn more from the group about the process of producing
black & white images through digital format, and am keen to learn from other
member experiences regarding inkjet printing of black & white images (inks,
printers, scanning resolutions, etc).
 
Cheers.
Sean
 

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I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's support 
is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw 
prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves to 
start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I 
bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.

Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with no 
hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into the "gloss 
optimizer" channel. 

Could you help me?

Thansk, Akos








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Re: [Digital BW] New Member Intro

2006-05-25 by scott_now_coming

Sean,

Welcome to the Group.

Lots of great information here on this site. Great people, too!

Scott

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> Hi Folks,  My name is Sean and I live in South Africa.  I've been 
doing
> amateur photography since 2001 and greatly enjoy black & white 
photography.
> My twin daughters (aged 11) also both enjoy amateur photography 
although
> they only started a few months ago.
>  
> For equipment I have a collection of 14 Russian SLR cameras dating 
from 1959
> to 2005.  Due to the high costs of developing and printing here I 
now only
> have my films developed and then scan the neg's into digital format 
using a
> Canon LIDE 80 scanner.
>  
> For printing I use and Epson Photo R200 printer and for quick 
digital
> photo's I use a Canon Powershot A520 (although a Canon 350D is on my
> Christmas wish list).
>  
> I'm looking to learn more from the group about the process of 
producing
> black & white images through digital format, and am keen to learn 
from other
> member experiences regarding inkjet printing of black & white 
images (inks,
> printers, scanning resolutions, etc).
>  
> Cheers.
> Sean
>  
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> Subject: [Digital BW] Neutral7 for an 8 channel printer
> 
> 
> I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's 
support 
> is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw 
> prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves 
to 
> start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I 
> bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.
> 
> Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with 
no 
> hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into 
the "gloss 
> optimizer" channel. 
> 
> Could you help me?
> 
> Thansk, Akos
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [Digital BW] New Member Intro

2006-05-25 by Mike & Polly

Dont get hung up on the technology   to take great photos...ha...learn to 
draw     ..its in the seeing     no amount  of technology can improve on a 
cave painting, our brains are the same!.... Henri  Cartier -Bresson didnt 
even use an exposure meter and drtew daily....mike thompson
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Subject: [Digital BW] New Member Intro


Hi Folks,  My name is Sean and I live in South Africa.  I've been doing
amateur photography since 2001 and greatly enjoy black & white photography.
My twin daughters (aged 11) also both enjoy amateur photography although
they only started a few months ago.

For equipment I have a collection of 14 Russian SLR cameras dating from 1959
to 2005.  Due to the high costs of developing and printing here I now only
have my films developed and then scan the neg's into digital format using a
Canon LIDE 80 scanner.

For printing I use and Epson Photo R200 printer and for quick digital
photo's I use a Canon Powershot A520 (although a Canon 350D is on my
Christmas wish list).

I'm looking to learn more from the group about the process of producing
black & white images through digital format, and am keen to learn from other
member experiences regarding inkjet printing of black & white images (inks,
printers, scanning resolutions, etc).

Cheers.
Sean


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To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Neutral7 for an 8 channel printer


I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's support
is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw
prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves to
start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I
bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.

Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with no
hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into the "gloss
optimizer" channel.

Could you help me?

Thansk, Akos








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Hi Scott, 
 
Thank you for the welcome, it's great to be here among other black-&-white
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Sean,

Welcome to the Group.

Lots of great information here on this site. Great people, too!

Scott

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using a
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> Christmas wish list).
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> I'm looking to learn more from the group about the process of 
producing
> black & white images through digital format, and am keen to learn 
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RE: [Digital BW] New Member Intro

2006-05-26 by Sean Smith

A very good point.  When I first started photography I found I was all tied
up in remembering my lighting settings, f-stop, 1/3rd rule, etc, but after a
while I found that those things came naturally and I got to enjoy actually
taking the photo more.
 
Quite often I'll see something and just know it will look good in print.
 
With my oldest camera which dosn't have light metering I don't even use a
light meter but rather judge my light settings starting with the sunny f16
rule as a base and working from there.
 
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Dont get hung up on the technology   to take great photos...ha...learn to 
draw     ..its in the seeing     no amount  of technology can improve on a 
cave painting, our brains are the same!.... Henri  Cartier -Bresson didnt 
even use an exposure meter and drtew daily....mike thompson
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Hi Folks,  My name is Sean and I live in South Africa.  I've been doing
amateur photography since 2001 and greatly enjoy black & white photography.
My twin daughters (aged 11) also both enjoy amateur photography although
they only started a few months ago.

For equipment I have a collection of 14 Russian SLR cameras dating from 1959
to 2005.  Due to the high costs of developing and printing here I now only
have my films developed and then scan the neg's into digital format using a
Canon LIDE 80 scanner.

For printing I use and Epson Photo R200 printer and for quick digital
photo's I use a Canon Powershot A520 (although a Canon 350D is on my
Christmas wish list).

I'm looking to learn more from the group about the process of producing
black & white images through digital format, and am keen to learn from other
member experiences regarding inkjet printing of black & white images (inks,
printers, scanning resolutions, etc).

Cheers.
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I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's support
is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw
prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves to
start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I
bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.

Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with no
hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into the "gloss
optimizer" channel.

Could you help me?

Thansk, Akos








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Re: [Digital BW] New Member Intro

2006-05-27 by Keith Zimmerman

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Sean Smith"
<npg.wme@...> wrote:
>
> A very good point.  When I first started photography I found I was
all tied
> up in remembering my lighting settings, f-stop, 1/3rd rule, etc, but
after a
> while I found that those things came naturally and I got to enjoy
actually
> taking the photo more.
>  
> Quite often I'll see something and just know it will look good in print.
>  
> With my oldest camera which dosn't have light metering I don't even
use a
> light meter but rather judge my light settings starting with the
sunny f16
> rule as a base and working from there.
>  
> Cheers
> Sean

Greetings Sean,

Welcome aboard.  As a lover of black&white who has completely made the
switch to digital, I read these threads with interest as everyone has
something to contribute.  The questioners start the thought process,
and the answerers conplete it.  It is great.

I am about to order my second Epson printer.  An R2400, which will
replace an R800 that I decided to sell because of its limitations with
B&W printing and the 81/2" carriage.  I am looking forward to being
able to print larger and experimenting with the ABW settings.

Keep shooting and see the tones of the world!

Keith

Re: Neutral7 for an 8 channel printer

2006-05-29 by koloshor

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "akos_szilvasi"
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> I already took several deep breaths..... Still, Piezography's support 
> is just as poor as it was 4 years ago. I used to make beautiful bw 
> prints back than but when my 1280 died. I did not have the nerves to 
> start the struggle with a new printer again. Now, many years ago I 
> bought the N7 in bottles + the Niagara system for an Epson R1800.
> 
> Guess what? I received 7 ink bottles for an 8 channnel printer with no 
> hint (and no information ANYWHERE!!!!) as to what goes into the "gloss 
> optimizer" channel. 

Akos,

The R1800 curves for use with K7 do not use the glop channel. Does the
Niagra have 7 carts, tubes and bottles, or eight?

If the Niagra has 7 channels, you can leave a normal Epson cart with
glop in the printer in the glop position, and every time the printer
is powered on it will use a few drops of glop for the Epson "self
cleaning" ritual. Eventually, a year or two down the line, the glop
cart will be consumed and need to be replaced. Or, instead of using
the glop cart, you can get a refillable cart from Image Specialists or
MIS and load the printer with Image Specialists WJ820 "dilutent for
matte inks" (aka MIS "clear base"), which will keep the print head
much cleaner than little bits of glop every now and then.

If the CIS has 8 carts, tubes, and bottles, you must load something
into the eigth bottle. You will destroy the printhead letting the
printer suck air. If you're not going to play with glop, use the WJ820
that I mentioned above. With just a squirt when you power on the
printer, the bottle will last forever. Change it every two years to
keep it from turning into sludge. If you'd actually like to play with
using the glop channel for overcoats on glossy pictures, load the
bottle with Image Specialists WJ824 "dilutent for glossy inks" (MIS
glop for the R800/R1800 inkset).

Have fun.

Joe

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