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Re: [Digital BW] QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

Re: [Digital BW] QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-11 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 7/10/06 10:45:30 PM, tom.husband@... writes:


> I created a grayscale profile using the QTR Create ICC program and put
> it in the spool\drivers\color folder but CS2 will not recognize it
> when I try to convert an image.  When I right click on the .icc file
> Windows says it's null and not a recognized profile.  Any suggestions?
> 

Does it say .icc or .icm on the end? Without one or the other, Windows 
doesn't know what it is.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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Re: [Digital BW] QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-11 by Tom Husband

Yes, it has .icc.  I tried renaming it to .icm but it made no difference.

Thanks,

Tom

On 7/11/06, CDTobie@... <CDTobie@...> wrote:
>
>
> In a message dated 7/10/06 10:45:30 PM, tom.husband@... writes:
>
>
> > I created a grayscale profile using the QTR Create ICC program and put
> > it in the spool\drivers\color folder but CS2 will not recognize it
> > when I try to convert an image. When I right click on the .icc file
> > Windows says it's null and not a recognized profile. Any suggestions?
> >
>
> Does it say .icc or .icm on the end? Without one or the other, Windows
> doesn't know what it is.
>
> C. David Tobie
> Product Technology Manager
> ColorVision Business Unit
> Datacolor Inc.
> CDTobie@...
> www.colorvision.com
>


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Re: [Digital BW] QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-11 by Greg

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote:
> 
> Does it say .icc or .icm on the end? Without one or the other, 
Windows 
> doesn't know what it is.
> 

It does have one or the other (I forget which), and Windows even shows 
the correct icon, but it says there is an error when you try to install 
it. I haven't looked to deeply into this, but I had a profile on my 
machine that I made for one of the other members of this group and 
decided to try installing it.

Re: [Digital BW] QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-11 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 7/11/06 10:47:48 AM, tom.husband@... writes:


> Yes, it has .icc.  I tried renaming it to .icm but it made no difference.
> 

Thats right, it would make no difference as both Mac and Windows OSes 
recognize both extensions. So its something else about the profile that Windows 
doesn't like. Send me a copy offline to CDTobie@... and I'll see if there is 
anything I can tell you about it.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision.com
www.colorvision.com


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Re: QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-13 by Roy Harrington

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <dfaprinting@...> 
wrote:
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> > 
> > Does it say .icc or .icm on the end? Without one or the other, 
> Windows 
> > doesn't know what it is.
> > 
> 
> It does have one or the other (I forget which), and Windows even shows 
> the correct icon, but it says there is an error when you try to install 
> it. I haven't looked to deeply into this, but I had a profile on my 
> machine that I made for one of the other members of this group and 
> decided to try installing it.
>

It's just the Windows right-click installer that doesn't recognize the ICC profile.
I suspect its because its grayscale not color.   But anyway if you just put it in the
correct folder Photoshop will see it just fine.  

For XP the folder for profiles is:
\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\ 

Roy

Re: [Digital BW] Re: QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-13 by Tom Husband

Thanks, Roy.  I did that and Photoshop doesn't recognize it.  It doesn't
appear at all in any of the profile conversion pull downs.

Tom

On 7/13/06, Roy Harrington <roy@...> wrote:
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> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg"
> <dfaprinting@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@ wrote:
> > >
> > > Does it say .icc or .icm on the end? Without one or the other,
> > Windows
> > > doesn't know what it is.
> > >
> >
> > It does have one or the other (I forget which), and Windows even shows
> > the correct icon, but it says there is an error when you try to install
> > it. I haven't looked to deeply into this, but I had a profile on my
> > machine that I made for one of the other members of this group and
> > decided to try installing it.
> >
>
> It's just the Windows right-click installer that doesn't recognize the ICC
> profile.
> I suspect its because its grayscale not color.   But anyway if you just
> put it in the
> correct folder Photoshop will see it just fine.
>
> For XP the folder for profiles is:
> \windows\system32\spool\drivers\color\
>
> Roy
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[Digital BW] Re: QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-14 by Greg

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Husband"
<tom.husband@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks, Roy.  I did that and Photoshop doesn't recognize it.  It doesn't
> appear at all in any of the profile conversion pull downs.
> 
> Tom
> 


I just copied two profiles into system32->spool->drivers->color and
CS2 only sees the RGB type of profile. The gray type does not show up.
And this only works for some applications, others will require that
the profile is installed to be able to use it. I think Nikon Capture
is one of those that requires profiles to be installed.

[Digital BW] Re: QTR Create ICC Profile Not Recognized

2006-07-14 by Roy Harrington

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <dfaprinting@...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Husband"
> <tom.husband@> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, Roy.  I did that and Photoshop doesn't recognize it.  It doesn't
> > appear at all in any of the profile conversion pull downs.
> > 
> > Tom
> > 
> 
> 
> I just copied two profiles into system32->spool->drivers->color and
> CS2 only sees the RGB type of profile. The gray type does not show up.
> And this only works for some applications, others will require that
> the profile is installed to be able to use it. I think Nikon Capture
> is one of those that requires profiles to be installed.
>

I think there are a number of issues that are confusing the situation.

1) as mentioned before the right-click install doesn't work.  I'm pretty sure
just moving the .icc file to the correct folder is sufficient.

2) there are two names associated with an icc profile. There's the filename 
and there's an internal name which is set when the profile is made.  
PS always shows the internal name so changing the filename has no effect
on what you see in PS.   To get different names rename the original data file 
with your desired name and then create the icc -- the internal name will 
have that name prepended with "QTR_".

3) in the PS pulldowns the profiles are grouped by type.  Mostly they are going
to be RGB profiles, so you'll see them all alphabetically.  Gray profiles are all
shown way at the bottom so you have to scroll all the way down to see them.
Since the names all have "QTR" in front there'll be an RGB section of QTR .icc
profiles and a separate grayscale section of QTR .icc profiles

I'm not sure what Nikon Capture does but I'd guess something similar to PS.
If this still causes trouble let me know.  I can try and track this down.

Roy

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