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UT-3D and profile for 2100

UT-3D and profile for 2100

2006-12-10 by fogmarco

I start to use UT-3d with my 2100 about 3 months ago. Before I used 
an 1160 with a set of UT-FSN with piezo plug-in. The results are 
very nice prints, with a more three-dimensional  effect respect the 
previous system.
Still today I used only HPR but now I want to try some different 
papers. I need the Epson archival matte for economical test prints 
and want to try with a semi gloss paper.
If I have understand the better way is to prepare profile by myself, 
so the profile with consider the exact printer/paper couple.
I see the Paul instructions but probably I haven't understood 
everything...
1 - I can use a curve to linearizing a print ramp from black to 
white (using a good scanner or a densitometer/ spectro). But how can 
I control the tone of my print?
2 - which difference if I use only the L value or all the L+a+b 
value?
3 - with the new printfix pro 2.0 is possible to create profile 
directly also for a UT-3D set? Is a good solution or I can do better 
with QTR create ICC ?
4 - the printfix pro 2.0 will work also with the old printfix or 
only with the printfix pro?

Marco - Italy

PS: sorry if my english is not so good.

RE: [Digital BW] UT-3D and profile for 2100

2006-12-10 by Paul Roark

Marco,

>I start to use UT-3d with my 2100 about 3 months ago. ...
>... I want to try some different papers. 
>...
>1 - I can use a curve to linearizing a print ramp from 
> black to white (using a good scanner or a densitometer/ spectro). 

>But how can I control the tone of my print?

See http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/Embedding_Photoshop_Curves_in_ICCs.pdf
The tone curve is used to print the 21-step curve and is also dropped into
the ICC along with the Lab L readings.

I've posted not only the ICCs but also the tone curve at
http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT-3D_Downloads.html

The tone curves that I've posted will probably be close enough for many
papers.  If not, then find the one that is closest, and use it as a starting
point to make a one for the new paper.

>2 - which difference if I use only the L value or 
> all the L+a+b value?

The 3D inkset makes a reasonably neutral tone when no curve is used, but
you'll usually be better off with an RGB curve embedded in the ICC along
with the Lab L numbers.

>3 - with the new printfix pro 2.0 is possible to create 
> profile directly also for a UT-3D set?

Yes. PFP 2.0 will make a neutral ICC.  With that neutral ICC you still have
some control of tone by using that ICC for soft proofing and then using
Color Balance of other tools in Photoshop to alter the RGB values.  The
color balance controls will not be labeled correctly due to the 3D's
"twisted" color space, but the soft proofing on the monitor works.  The
range of tones you can bet with this approach is less than will curves, but
it's easier.  Keep an eye on the 21-step ramp smoothness.  When you go too
far with the color balance controls the ramp will become visibly distorted.

> Is a good solution or I can do better with QTR create ICC?

It's a question of how appropriate the existing tone curve is for the new
paper you're interested in and how comfortable you are with the various
approaches.  It's good to have multiple workflows available.

>4 - the printfix pro 2.0 will work also with the old printfix 
> or only with the printfix pro?

C. David will have to answer this one.

Good luck with your system.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] UT-3D and profile for 2100

2006-12-10 by CDTobie@aol.com

In a message dated 12/10/06 10:26:05 AM, fog.marco@... writes:


> 4 - the printfix pro 2.0 will work also with the old printfix or
> only with the printfix pro?
> 
PrintFIX PRO 2.0 is a software update for PrintFIX PRO. It has no relation to 
the older PrintFIX Product, and won't work with it.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Division
DataColor Inc.
CDTobie@...
www.colorvision.com


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