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Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for portraits 
and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what paper you 
choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.

Thank you,
Charlotte

Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime favorite of
many inkjet printer folk. 

Moab papers are going through renaming and market-rethinking, but this
is an important possible source and advisor:

http://www.inkjetart.com/wc/entrada/index.html

What are the circumstances of your portraits? 

I'm in the middle of "Indian Country" and am always eager to see
portraits of the native people around me, Navajo especially. Are you
Native American? Being white, I've been reluctant to do portraits of
my native friends...maybe that's just my personal weakness.

John / Albuquerque 
 




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
<cieloblu@...> wrote:

>
> Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for portraits 
> and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what paper you 
> choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.
> 
> Thank you,
> Charlotte
>

If you like Entrada Natural, you might want to check our our Merlin and
Condor Natural papers, also 100% cotton, OBA free, coated both sides,
available in sheets and rolls.

Diana L. York
Hawk Mountain Archival Inkjet Papers for Photographs and Fine Art 
We Soar Above the Rest!
866-409-4598 or 866-526-5642
www.hawkmtpaper.com

-----Original Message-----
Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime favorite of
many inkjet printer folk. <snip>

John, thanks for your reply. I've tried Entrada's bw but not the 
natural. 

I am white. The Native Americans are Navajo. They are paid models. I 
was raised in New Mexico and have always  been attracted to Native 
American and southwestern culture. Living in Albuquerque you are 
probably aware that photography of American indians can be a sensitve 
issue. Past exploitation of Native Americans may play a role for some 
in their feelings about being photographed.  I myself, do not like it 
if someone photographs me w/o my permission.

Charlotte
 


- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
> cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime favorite 
of
> many inkjet printer folk. 
> 
> Moab papers are going through renaming and market-rethinking, but 
this
> is an important possible source and advisor:
> 
> http://www.inkjetart.com/wc/entrada/index.html
> 
> What are the circumstances of your portraits? 
> 
> I'm in the middle of "Indian Country" and am always eager to see
> portraits of the native people around me, Navajo especially. Are you
> Native American? Being white, I've been reluctant to do portraits of
> my native friends...maybe that's just my personal weakness.
> 
> John / Albuquerque 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
> <cieloblu@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for 
portraits 
> > and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what 
paper you 

> > choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Charlotte
> >
>

Charlotte,

There are some brand new papers on the market that show some real 
promise for your application. They were developed by Tony Martin from 
Lyson and are listed at 
http://www.adventurecamphoto.com/ink2image.htm.

Mike Pach
AdventureCam Photo
mike@...


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
<djon43@...> wrote:
>
> Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
> cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime favorite 
of
> many inkjet printer folk. 
> 
> Moab papers are going through renaming and market-rethinking, but 
this
> is an important possible source and advisor:
> 
> http://www.inkjetart.com/wc/entrada/index.html
> 
> What are the circumstances of your portraits? 
> 
> I'm in the middle of "Indian Country" and am always eager to see
> portraits of the native people around me, Navajo especially. Are you
> Native American? Being white, I've been reluctant to do portraits of
> my native friends...maybe that's just my personal weakness.
> 
> John / Albuquerque 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
> <cieloblu@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for 
portraits 
> > and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what 
paper you 

> > choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.
> > 
> > Thank you,
> > Charlotte
> >
>

Oops ...

Someone pointed out that the link I submitted earlier didn't work. 
It's because I accidentally added a period at the end of the URL. 
Sorry about that.

The line is: www.adventurecamphoto.com/ink2image.htm

Mike Pach
AdventureCam Photo
mike@...


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "colossal-man" 
<email@...> wrote:
>
> Charlotte,
> 
> There are some brand new papers on the market that show some real 
> promise for your application. They were developed by Tony Martin 
from 
> Lyson and are listed at 
> http://www.adventurecamphoto.com/ink2image.htm.
> 
> Mike Pach
> AdventureCam Photo
> mike@...
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
> <djon43@> wrote:
> >
> > Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
> > cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime 
favorite 
> of
> > many inkjet printer folk. 
> > 
> > Moab papers are going through renaming and market-rethinking, but 
> this
> > is an important possible source and advisor:
> > 
> > http://www.inkjetart.com/wc/entrada/index.html
> > 
> > What are the circumstances of your portraits? 
> > 
> > I'm in the middle of "Indian Country" and am always eager to see
> > portraits of the native people around me, Navajo especially. Are 
you
> > Native American? Being white, I've been reluctant to do portraits 
of
> > my native friends...maybe that's just my personal weakness.
> > 
> > John / Albuquerque 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"

> > <cieloblu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for 
> portraits 
> > > and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what 
> paper you 
> > > choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > Charlotte
> > >
> >
>

Charlotte.. we share the concern about ripoff...  

Paying seems ideal. I suspect that even rez Dine' would respect that,
if only due to frequent Missippi-1960-rural poverty.

What sort of portrait are you making? 
 
Are your subjects urban or rez? 


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
<cieloblu@...> wrote:

>
> John, thanks for your reply. I've tried Entrada's bw but not the 
> natural. 
> 
> I am white. The Native Americans are Navajo. They are paid models. I 
> was raised in New Mexico and have always  been attracted to Native 
> American and southwestern culture. Living in Albuquerque you are 
> probably aware that photography of American indians can be a sensitve 
> issue. Past exploitation of Native Americans may play a role for some 
> in their feelings about being photographed.  I myself, do not like it 
> if someone photographs me w/o my permission.
> 
> Charlotte
>  
> 
> 
> - In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "djon43" 
> <djon43@> wrote:
> >
> > Charlotte, if it were me I might use Moab Entrada Natural, a
> > cream-colored paper (not whitened at all). It's a longtime favorite 
> of
> > many inkjet printer folk. 
> > 
> > Moab papers are going through renaming and market-rethinking, but 
> this
> > is an important possible source and advisor:
> > 
> > http://www.inkjetart.com/wc/entrada/index.html
> > 
> > What are the circumstances of your portraits? 
> > 
> > I'm in the middle of "Indian Country" and am always eager to see
> > portraits of the native people around me, Navajo especially. Are you
> > Native American? Being white, I've been reluctant to do portraits of
> > my native friends...maybe that's just my personal weakness.
> > 
> > John / Albuquerque 
> >  
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "cieloblu22000"
> > <cieloblu@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Does anyone have recommendations for good inkjet paper for 
> portraits 
> > > and why you suggest that paper? Is skin tone a factor in what 
> paper you 
> > > choose? The portaits I am working on are native Americans.
> > > 
> > > Thank you,
> > > Charlotte
> > >
> >
>

Richard and Mike, 

Thanks for the suggestions. I will check them out.

I just tried a paper from Hawk Mountain  called Peregrine Velvet. It is a slightly warm paper and worked quite beautifully. I checked it out on Clayton's paper recommendations. He recommended it for portraits and I must agree that for portraits it just glows. A very nice paper. I love the skin tones I'm getting on my Native Americans.

Charlotte



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