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Workflow for BO and the 1280

Workflow for BO and the 1280

2007-08-06 by mbrouphy

I've read through Clayton Jones' paper on making fine art BO prints on 
the 2200 but it is hard to translate those steps into working with the 
1280.  If Clayton is there or someone else who works/has worked with 
the 1280 and either PS7 or CS to do fine art BO prints, please send me 
your workflow for setting up the driver.  I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks, Mike,  mbrouphy@...

Re: Workflow for BO and the 1280

2007-08-07 by Kevin

i wish that i could remember. i sold the 1280 over a year ago for the 2400.

keep at it because my 1280 made better b&w prints then the 2400. 

it took me a good week or more to refine Clayton's BO printing workflow to my 1280. i did 
about 200 test prints to finally get it down.

fwiw, i used MIS Eboni Black ink w/ their cleaning cart in the color slot. Also, I used Red 
River "Aurora Art" and "Dourian Art" for my best prints. 

The 2400 can do a "good job" all the time, but it lacks the punch and wow factor that 
some of my better 1280 BO prints made.

Also, it's very difficult to get rid of color cast in many of the 2400 prints. What I really wish 
is that the 2400 driver allowed you to choose "Black Ink Only" in order to draw only from 
the black slot. No more green cast, or yellow cast or pink cast. And most of all, no blue 
cast.


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "mbrouphy" <mbrouphy@...> 
wrote:
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> I've read through Clayton Jones' paper on making fine art BO prints on 
> the 2200 but it is hard to translate those steps into working with the 
> 1280.  If Clayton is there or someone else who works/has worked with 
> the 1280 and either PS7 or CS to do fine art BO prints, please send me 
> your workflow for setting up the driver.  I would greatly appreciate it.
> 
> Thanks, Mike,  mbrouphy@...
>

Re: Workflow for BO and the 1280

2007-08-08 by Clayton Jones

Hello Mike,

>I've read through Clayton Jones' paper on making fine art BO prints
>on the 2200 but it is hard to translate those steps into working with
>the 1280.  If Clayton is there or someone else who works/has worked 
>with the 1280 and either PS7 or CS to do fine art BO prints, please 
>send me your workflow for setting up the driver.  I would greatly 
>appreciate it.

I can't provide any specifics since I never used a 1280, but the
principles are the same.  The basic concept or goal of the approach is
changing the monitor image to match the print to achieve good WYSIWYG,
not the other way around.  The rest of all the specifics in the
article is focused on the relationship between the image profile, the
printer profile and the gamma setting, and how they work together to
accomplish the goal.  I think if these basic concepts are grasped it's
relatively easy to apply them to any Epson printer that has the BO
option.  Sorry I can't be more specific than that.

Regards,
Clayton


Info on black and white digital printing at    
http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm

Re: Workflow for BO and the 1280

2007-08-10 by mbrouphy

Clayton, Thanks for the feedback.  I'll just work on it this weekend 
now that I've managed to put myself under the gun for completing 
prints for a juried art show.

However, if I understand the gist of a number of the articles, then 
one either works on the Epson driver or use/create a profile in 
Photoshop but not both.  Otherwise the world as we know it printwise 
will collapse.  In other words my prints will look like heck.

I guess the other thing is that the workflow you outline for using 
CS2 doesn't seem to completely apply in CS, which we have. (Didn't 
feel the need to pay Adobe another $149-$199.  Do you or have you an 
outline that would address making changes to PS CS vs CS2?

Thanks, Mike

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton Jones" 
<cj@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Mike,
> 
> >I've read through Clayton Jones' paper on making fine art BO prints
> >on the 2200 but it is hard to translate those steps into working 
with
> >the 1280.  If Clayton is there or someone else who works/has 
worked 
> >with the 1280 and either PS7 or CS to do fine art BO prints, 
please 
> >send me your workflow for setting up the driver.  I would greatly 
> >appreciate it.
> 
> I can't provide any specifics since I never used a 1280, but the
> principles are the same.  The basic concept or goal of the approach 
is
> changing the monitor image to match the print to achieve good 
WYSIWYG,
> not the other way around.  The rest of all the specifics in the
> article is focused on the relationship between the image profile, 
the
> printer profile and the gamma setting, and how they work together to
> accomplish the goal.  I think if these basic concepts are grasped 
it's
Show quoted textHide quoted text
> relatively easy to apply them to any Epson printer that has the BO
> option.  Sorry I can't be more specific than that.
> 
> Regards,
> Clayton
> 
> 
> Info on black and white digital printing at    
> http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
>

Re: Workflow for BO and the 1280

2007-08-10 by Clayton Jones

Hello Mike,

>I guess the other thing is that the workflow you outline for using 
>CS2 doesn't seem to completely apply in CS, which we have. (Didn't 
>feel the need to pay Adobe another $149-$199.  

No, I didn't feel that need <g>.



>Do you or have you an 
>outline that would address making changes to PS CS vs CS2?

The only difference is "Same As Source" is called "No Color
Management" in CS2 (this is mentioned in the article).


Regards,
Clayton

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