Digital BW, The Print

I have an Epson R2400 which I'm happy with. However, I may be doing
some traveling soon, and would like a smaller printer (but not really
small, 4x6 in. print size) to take with me that can:

do good black and white prints, 
possibly toned or color as well,
make prints that are somewhat archival quality,  
take at least up to letter sized sheets,
can make prints on matte/fine art type papers (possibly switching to
lustre/glossy would be nice).  

Any recommendations out there?  Best, David.

The 3MK-R800 or R220 UT-3D will be good.

1. 3MK-R800: able to print good B&W and Color on matte paper only.
2. R220 UT-3D: able to print good B&W on both matte and glossy paper 
   BUT no color prints.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David" 
<dkfreed@...> wrote:
>
> I have an Epson R2400 which I'm happy with. However, I may be doing
> some traveling soon, and would like a smaller printer (but not 
really

> small, 4x6 in. print size) to take with me that can:
> 
> do good black and white prints, 
> possibly toned or color as well,
> make prints that are somewhat archival quality,  
> take at least up to letter sized sheets,
> can make prints on matte/fine art type papers (possibly switching to
> lustre/glossy would be nice).  
> 
> Any recommendations out there?  Best, David.
>

I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, but I don't know what
3MK and UT-3D mean?  

David. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "John"
<firewoodtech@...> wrote:
>
> The 3MK-R800 or R220 UT-3D will be good.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David" 
<dkfreed@...> wrote:
>
> I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, but I don't know what
> 3MK and UT-3D mean?  
> 
> David. 
> 

R800 and R220 are Epson printer models.  I use the R220 myself and 
recommend it.

For the inks, I guess you don't read here regularly.  

UT3D is a Paul Roark created inkset that gives you a lot of control 
over inktone.  Purchase from inksupply.com

3MK is a new approach by Paul Roark to use 3 Eboni black cartridges for 
a pure carbon-based inkjet print.  If you're ever tried black only with 
your printer it is like that but smoother.  You can also get this from 
MIS and search the archives here for more info.

David, R220 and R800 are the model no. of Epson printer.

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=FandB&oid=58654761&category=Products

http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/consumer/consDetail.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&infoType=FandB&oid=37472319&category=Products

The 3MK and UT-3D are inkset that MIS sells;
http://www.inksupply.com/qn.cfm

Alternatively, you can also try Cone K7 inks;
http://shopping.netsuite.com/s.nl/c.362672/sc.15/category.1238/.f

Or: http://www.mediastreet.com/site/generations_gq.html

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David" 
<dkfreed@...> wrote:
>
> I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, but I don't know 
what

> 3MK and UT-3D mean?  
> 
> David.

>I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, 
>but I don't know what 3MK and UT-3D mean? 

The 220 was a great bargain and ran the UT-3D inkset -- see
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-3D_Readme.pdf   Unfortunately, the 220
is not longer made.

The R800 (and R1800) were the first to use the very small 1.5 picoliter
drops.  As such, they are also the first to be able to print what I consider
photo quality, 100% carbon prints.  See
http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.pdf   I'm personally trying to move
all my printing to 100% carbon to avoid the problems color inks introduce.
The R800/1800 setup also allows color printing, but not glossy -- just
matte.  Custom B&W only setups could easily also print glossy, but I thought
the full color + B&W would be the more popular (and I needed color for a
project).  So that is what I set up first.

Paul
www.PaulRoark.com

Paul, et al, thanks for this info. I like the idea of being about to 
have both color and b/w carbon inkset in one printer, and making only 
matte is really no problem as its what I mainly do now. 

Would I be controlling the b/w printing from the printer's driver, or 
with a RIP (like Quadtone)?

Best, David


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> >I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, 
> >but I don't know what 3MK and UT-3D mean? 
> 
> The 220 was a great bargain and ran the UT-3D inkset -- see
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-3D_Readme.pdf   Unfortunately, 
the 220
> is not longer made.
> 
> The R800 (and R1800) were the first to use the very small 1.5 
picoliter
> drops.  As such, they are also the first to be able to print what I 
consider
> photo quality, 100% carbon prints.  See
> http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.pdf   I'm personally trying 
to move
> all my printing to 100% carbon to avoid the problems color inks 
introduce.
> The R800/1800 setup also allows color printing, but not glossy -- 
just
> matte.  Custom B&W only setups could easily also print glossy, but 
I thought
> the full color + B&W would be the more popular (and I needed color 
for a project).  So that is what I set up first.
> 
> Paul   > www.PaulRoark.com

Thanks again Paul. And could I use QTRip with some color inks in the
profile for toning (I know you have the ability to turn on or off any
ink cartridge with the Rip)?  Best, David. 



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> David, 
> 
> With the R800/1800 setup I'm using QTR is used for the B&W and the
Epson driver is used for the color.  I've posted a number of profiles
for the system, and it's very easy to profile since there is no color
to coordinate.
> 
> Paul www.PaulRoark.com

David, 

 

With the R800/1800 setup I'm using QTR is used for the B&W and the Epson
driver is used for the color.  I've posted a number of profiles for the
system, and it's very easy to profile since there is no color to coordinate.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

  _____  

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 11:25 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?

 

Paul, et al, thanks for this info. I like the idea of being about to 
have both color and b/w carbon inkset in one printer, and making only 
matte is really no problem as its what I mainly do now. 

Would I be controlling the b/w printing from the printer's driver, or 
with a RIP (like Quadtone)?

Best, David

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> >I assume that R800 and R220 are printer numbers, 
> >but I don't know what 3MK and UT-3D mean? 
> 
> The 220 was a great bargain and ran the UT-3D inkset -- see
> http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/UT-3D_Readme.pdf>
k.com/BW-Info/UT-3D_Readme.pdf Unfortunately, 
the 220
> is not longer made.
> 
> The R800 (and R1800) were the first to use the very small 1.5 
picoliter
> drops. As such, they are also the first to be able to print what I 
consider
> photo quality, 100% carbon prints. See
> http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/BW-Info/R1800.pdf>
k.com/BW-Info/R1800.pdf I'm personally trying 
to move
> all my printing to 100% carbon to avoid the problems color inks 
introduce.
> The R800/1800 setup also allows color printing, but not glossy -- 
just
> matte. Custom B&W only setups could easily also print glossy, but 
I thought
> the full color + B&W would be the more popular (and I needed color 
for a project). So that is what I set up first.
> 
> Paul > www.PaulRoark.com

 



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David,

 

Yes, all the colors are there for toning.  I have a few samples posted of
single-color toning with red and blue.  While the effects are mild, toning
with only one color has some obvious advantages in ease and predictable fade
path.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

  _____  

From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Monday, August 20, 2007 4:47 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: smaller printer for mainly black and white?

 

Thanks again Paul. And could I use QTRip with some color inks in the
profile for toning (I know you have the ability to turn on or off any
ink cartridge with the Rip)? Best, David. 

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> David, 
> 
> With the R800/1800 setup I'm using QTR is used for the B&W and the
Epson driver is used for the color. I've posted a number of profiles
for the system, and it's very easy to profile since there is no color
to coordinate.
> 
> Paul www.PaulRoark.com 

 



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