Digital BW, The Print

I've just been asked about this, and since I never used adhesives on
the coated art papers I thought I'd pass the question on.
Any luck with any of them? No chemical yellowing? They have been using
3M Photo Mount so far.
I've seen a lot of horrible yellowing from many things that outgass,
including many adhesives.

Tyler

I've used the 3M Spray Ment cans and they seem to hold well, but like
you I certainly wouldn't trust them for long term storage on valuable
prints. There is no telling what is in that stuff. 

I'd like to know the answer to this also. I just bought a small used
dry mount press and I would imagine many dry mount tissues are far
more reliable than any of these sprays.

Probably the most permanent and toxic free adhesive would be PVA book
binding glue, but I've never seen that chemical in a spray form that
would go on smoothly and not cause buckling of the surface with photo
papers.

john




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
<tyler@...> wrote:

>
> I've just been asked about this, and since I never used adhesives on
> the coated art papers I thought I'd pass the question on.
> Any luck with any of them? No chemical yellowing? They have been using
> 3M Photo Mount so far.
> I've seen a lot of horrible yellowing from many things that outgass,
> including many adhesives.
> 
> Tyler
>

Tyler, In my earlier days as an assistant in a frame shop, we used a roll on
adhesive that was great for use with damaged posters, prints, etc.  We
slightly dampened the prints to allow them to lay flat an dplace on the
coated mount board; foam core, gator foam, etc.  Then carefully place the
art on the board and vacuum mount the work and let cure under weight. You
might check with local frame shops to see how archival it is. I think quite
archival, but it has been some years so you know how the mind might not
recall ALL the particulars. 

 

Eric

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

SKype ejprinter

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john dean
Sent: Monday, October 22, 2007 3:53 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Any usable mounting sprays?

 

I've used the 3M Spray Ment cans and they seem to hold well, but like
you I certainly wouldn't trust them for long term storage on valuable
prints. There is no telling what is in that stuff. 

I'd like to know the answer to this also. I just bought a small used
dry mount press and I would imagine many dry mount tissues are far
more reliable than any of these sprays.

Probably the most permanent and toxic free adhesive would be PVA book
binding glue, but I've never seen that chemical in a spray form that
would go on smoothly and not cause buckling of the surface with photo
papers.

john

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> I've just been asked about this, and since I never used adhesives on
> the coated art papers I thought I'd pass the question on.
> Any luck with any of them? No chemical yellowing? They have been using
> 3M Photo Mount so far.
> I've seen a lot of horrible yellowing from many things that outgass,
> including many adhesives.
> 
> Tyler
>

 



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Not a spray, but I've used this before with the supplied squeege:

http://www.artsuppliesonline.com/catalog.cfm?cata_id=6730

Scott

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:

>
> I've just been asked about this, and since I never used adhesives on
> the coated art papers I thought I'd pass the question on.
> Any luck with any of them? No chemical yellowing? They have been using
> 3M Photo Mount so far.
> I've seen a lot of horrible yellowing from many things that outgass,
> including many adhesives.
> 
> Tyler
>

I've been using 3m Vac-U-Mount Adhesive for years. Here is what 3m 
says about it:
"Formulated for use with a vacuum frame system for mounting 
lithographs, photographs, screen prints, maps, certificates, fabrics, 
and more. Bonds permanently without discoloration, cracking, or bleed 
through. Requires no heat. Ideal for mounting black and white and 
color photos quickly, easily, and permanently. Also ideal for bonding 
common art materials such as Cibachrome™ prints, resin coated (RC) 
photo papers, clay-coated papers, newsprint and fabric. Extended open 
time (up to 10 minutes) allows you to spray and bond even the largest 
materials."
You do need a vacuum table to bond it. Never have seen anyone claim 
to have seen discoloration from it.

Chris


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> I've just been asked about this, and since I never used adhesives on
> the coated art papers I thought I'd pass the question on.
> Any luck with any of them? No chemical yellowing? They have been 
using

> 3M Photo Mount so far.
> I've seen a lot of horrible yellowing from many things that outgass,
> including many adhesives.
> 
> Tyler
>

Chris;

Any chance it might work with a cold dry-mount press? What is the 
practical difference in pressure application between the two? I've 
never seen a vacuum press in action.

Steven Karafyllakis



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "art4u2see2" 
<art4u2see2@...> wrote:

>
> You do need a vacuum table to bond it. Never have seen anyone claim 
> to have seen discoloration from it.
> 
> Chris
>