Digital BW, The Print

I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
inch roll paper.

Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
inch rolls?  And if so, who, what and where?   The only guillotine
cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll.  Or is there a
special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?

I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.

Dave

A while ago on this or another thread someone said that he binds the roll
very tightly then takes it to a cabinet shop where the cut it for him on a
bandsaw.  Seems worth a try.

 

Tom

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of David H.
Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:41 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Custom cutting Roll Paper

 

I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
inch roll paper.

Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?

I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.

Dave 

 



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It has appeared often over the last few years. Many use a chop saw to cut
down rolls to smaller sizes. Good blade, tape up the roll to prevent free
paper dust and it shouldn't be a problem. 

 

Why don't they cut it in manufacturing? Probably a bigger waste of resources
than they get back on that time. 

 

Eric Neilsen Photo

4101 Commerce Street, Suite 9

Dallas, TX 75226

214 827-8301

 

http://ericneilsenphotography.com

SKype ejprinter

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom
Maugham
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 5:44 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Custom cutting Roll Paper

 

A while ago on this or another thread someone said that he binds the roll
very tightly then takes it to a cabinet shop where the cut it for him on a
bandsaw. Seems worth a try.

Tom

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eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit
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Miller
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 6:41 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Custom cutting Roll Paper

I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
inch roll paper.

Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?

I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.

Dave 

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Moab used to make 13" rolls. Maybe they still do.

On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:41 PM, David H. Miller wrote:

> I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
> with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
> inch roll paper.
>
> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
> inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
>
> I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
> beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.
>
> Dave
>
>
> 



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Hawk Mountain has a paper very similar to EEM (called Sparrowhawk) which is
available in 13"x100' rolls. Most of our papers are available as 13" wide
rolls.

Diana L. York
Hawk Mountain Archival Inkjet Papers for Photographs and Fine Art 
We Soar Above the Rest!
866-409-4598 or 866-526-5642
www.hawkmtpaper.com

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john
merrill
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2007 7:08 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Custom cutting Roll Paper

Moab used to make 13" rolls. Maybe they still do.

On Oct 24, 2007, at 6:41 PM, David H. Miller wrote:

> I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
> with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
> inch roll paper.
>
> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
> inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
>
> I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
> beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.
>
> Dave

I bought a roll of EEM and the vendors cut it down for me. But then I found that PremierArt Matte BW is around the same price, alpha cellulose and double-sided. All round, better - and available in 13" rolls.

Richard

At 02:23 PM Thursday 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>> I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
>> with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
>> inch roll paper.
>>
>> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
>> inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
>> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
>> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
>>
>> I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
>> beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.

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--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David H. Miller" 
<daveinmoscow@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
> with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
> inch roll paper.
> 
> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
> inch rolls?  And if so, who, what and where?   The only guillotine
> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll.  Or is there a
> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?

Dave, try:

www.digitalartsupplies.com

They have many rolls in stock and will custom cut their stock for $10/cut.

Robert

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "David H. Miller" 
<daveinmoscow@...> wrote:
>
> I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
> with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
> inch roll paper.
> 
> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
> inch rolls?  And if so, who, what and where?   The only guillotine
> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll.  Or is there a
> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
> 
> I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
> beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.
> 
> Dave
>
 Bought a 32T/inch blade for my hacksaw and used it to cut 13" X50' rolls(4) down to 6.5" 
wide 
for my R2400. Cut edge was a little rough, and since I am trimming edges after printing, it 
was no problem.
Kept the vacuum cleaner handy to keep sawdust(powder) under control. Used an 'A' clamp 
to secure the roll to my work table for cutting.
Had gotten quotes from printing 'Converting' companies for 'slitting' and it was too 
expensive in small quantities.
Good Luck!
Julian Kaiser

In a message dated 10/24/07 6:41:38 PM, daveinmoscow@... writes:


> 
> Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
> inch rolls?  And if so, who, what and where?   The only guillotine
> cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll.  Or is there a
> special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
> 

A woodworkers or metalworkers bandsaw with a fine blade can be used, but it 
sometimes creates interlocking fuzz on the edge of the outer most paper. A bit 
of finishing can help with this... say on a disc sander. The bandsaw blade 
must be sharp, and well tensioned, or you can end up with a wavering edge on your 
prints.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
Digital Color Solutions
Datacolor
CDTobie@...
www.spyder3.com


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At 02:23 PM Thursday 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>Hawk Mountain has a paper very similar to EEM (called Sparrowhawk) which is
>available in 13"x100' rolls. Most of our papers are available as 13" wide
>rolls.

My 2c worth ...

I've found Sparrowhawk fine for daytime shots, but for night shots or low-key portraits with large black areas I've found PremierArt Matte BW much better - smoother blacks and better dmax - the Sparrowhawk looks a bit blotchy in comparison.

I hope this helps,
Richard  
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Hi,
I just talked to Red River Paper about getting metric sizes made and yes, they will custom cut sizes for you. The extra charge for this is $10 per cut.

The expense of doing extra sizes like A4 would be the packaging, they said - so if you get a custom size, it will only be shrink-wrapped. They would like to do metric sizes, but as 99% of their business is in the USA, it's not worth it for them.

So yes, you could get one of their rolls cut down. The smallest roll they make is 17" x 50' long, but it would probably make better economics to get a larger roll cut down, as you said, so that you could use both halves.

But they do a cut sheet size of 13'x38' (although not in all papers), which I might avail myself of at a future date.

Good luck,
Richard

At 11:41 AM Thursday 10/25/2007, you wrote:
>I'd like to use Epson Enhanced Matte in my R2400 for some panoramics
>with Piezography (which works beautifully for me), but can't find 13
>inch roll paper.
>
>Has anyone tried having a larger, e.g. 24 inch roll cut into 13 and 11
>inch rolls? And if so, who, what and where? The only guillotine
>cutter a friend has can't handle this big of a roll. Or is there a
>special source of 13, or a reason it isn't available?
>
>I figure I could print well on both sizes as some of the pans don't go
>beyond 10 inches wide by 30-40 inches.

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