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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Michael Kravit

Garry,

There are a few option to get dot free images (both b/w and color) on Epson 7k/9k series printers.

I wil list a few for you:

1. PiezoBW24Pro
Uses Cone inks and driver. (Can use MIS FS inks)

2. Piezo 2
Uses a third party RIP licenses to Cone and Cone inks. (Can use MIS FS inks)

3. ImagePrint 4 by Colorbyte Software
Uses a large range of inks both quad black and color including Cone, MIS FS, and Lyon Quads.

4. Wausatch RIP
Uses a large range of color inks and supports MIS Quad black inks.

5. MIS Variable Mix inks
Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.

I am sure that as time goes on, more products will become available.

Mike

Michael J. Kravit
Architect/Photographer
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: garrysarre 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:58 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?


  It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot free 
  printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000 
  that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's have 
  to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done 
  great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.

  Garry Sarre

  www.sarre.com.au


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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Moreno Polloni

> There are a few option to get dot free images (both b/w and color) on
Epson 7k/9k series printers.
>
> I wil list a few for you:
>
> 1. PiezoBW24Pro
> Uses Cone inks and driver. (Can use MIS FS inks)
>
> 2. Piezo 2
> Uses a third party RIP licenses to Cone and Cone inks. (Can use MIS FS
inks)
>
> 3. ImagePrint 4 by Colorbyte Software
> Uses a large range of inks both quad black and color including Cone, MIS
FS, and Lyon Quads.
>
> 4. Wausatch RIP
> Uses a large range of color inks and supports MIS Quad black inks.
>
> 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
> Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
>
> I am sure that as time goes on, more products will become available.

My understanding is at this point, is that support for the Cone/MIS FS inks,
using Imageprint 4 & Piezo 2, is limited to the 7000 printer. More to come,
of course, but if you were to place an order today, the 7000 would be the
only printer supported.

Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Michael Kravit

Not true,

The RIP comes with built-in support for the 9000/9500. I have it and just looked.

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Moreno Polloni 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?


  > There are a few option to get dot free images (both b/w and color) on
  Epson 7k/9k series printers.
  >
  > I wil list a few for you:
  >
  > 1. PiezoBW24Pro
  > Uses Cone inks and driver. (Can use MIS FS inks)
  >
  > 2. Piezo 2
  > Uses a third party RIP licenses to Cone and Cone inks. (Can use MIS FS
  inks)
  >
  > 3. ImagePrint 4 by Colorbyte Software
  > Uses a large range of inks both quad black and color including Cone, MIS
  FS, and Lyon Quads.
  >
  > 4. Wausatch RIP
  > Uses a large range of color inks and supports MIS Quad black inks.
  >
  > 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
  > Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
  >
  > I am sure that as time goes on, more products will become available.

  My understanding is at this point, is that support for the Cone/MIS FS inks,
  using Imageprint 4 & Piezo 2, is limited to the 7000 printer. More to come,
  of course, but if you were to place an order today, the 7000 would be the
  only printer supported.



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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Moreno Polloni

> Not true,
>
> The RIP comes with built-in support for the 9000/9500. I have it and just
looked.

Support for the Cone inks? I talked to Colorbyte on Thursday, and they told
me the Cone inkset is supported on the 7000 only at this time, with more to
come soon. I guess the programmers are one step ahead of the sales people.

[Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Paul Roark

Garry,

You wrote:

>It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot free
>printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000
>that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's have
>to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done
>great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.

Although I don't have a 7000, it is my understanding that the Epson driver
as used in the variable-tone setup can print visually dotless images on the
7000.  (Of course, even Piezo has dots, the question is whether you can see
them under the conditions that the image will realistically be viewed.)

The new MIS VM-Sepia variable-mix/tone inkset covers the range of neutral to
sepia tones, and may be something you'd want to consider.  For a sample of
the tonal range, see
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Message%20
Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg>

Paul
http://www.PaulRoark.com

Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by qdfb

Mike, 

Is Piezo 2 dotless - or should I say, as dotless as Pro24?

I realise it is probably based on Imageprint 4, but I would think we 
will have to wait and see output from it to be sure.  Piezo Pro24, on 
the other hand, is a proven product and has no visible dots on a 
7000 - to me at any rate :-).  

I have not seen output from Imageprint 4 - what is its B&W output 
like?  I guess if *that* is dotless, that probably answers the 
querstion for Piezo 2 as well.

--
Quentin

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit" 
<michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> Garry,
> 
> There are a few option to get dot free images (both b/w and color) 
on Epson 7k/9k series printers.
> 
> I wil list a few for you:
> 
> 1. PiezoBW24Pro
> Uses Cone inks and driver. (Can use MIS FS inks)
> 
> 2. Piezo 2
> Uses a third party RIP licenses to Cone and Cone inks. (Can use MIS 
FS inks)
> 
> 3. ImagePrint 4 by Colorbyte Software
> Uses a large range of inks both quad black and color including 
Cone, MIS FS, and Lyon Quads.
> 
> 4. Wausatch RIP
> Uses a large range of color inks and supports MIS Quad black inks.
> 
> 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
> Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
> 
> I am sure that as time goes on, more products will become available.
> 
> Mike
> 
> Michael J. Kravit
> Architect/Photographer
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: garrysarre 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
>   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:58 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?
> 
> 
>   It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot 
free 
>   printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000 
>   that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's 
have 
>   to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done 
>   great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.
> 
>   Garry Sarre
> 
>   www.sarre.com.au
> 
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-02 by Paul Roark

I see the URL of the Vm-Sepia sample that I listed my previous post did not
survive the Yahoo formatting.

I thought the brackets were supposed to do that.  Anyone know how to post a
long URL in tact?

Anyway, the URL for the files section of this forum is:
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/>

Then you can paste the following onto the end of the above to get to the
sample:

Message%20Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg



Paul
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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@...]
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:32 AM
  To: DigitalB&WPrint
  Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?


  Garry,

  You wrote:

  >It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot free
  >printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000
  >that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's have
  >to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done
  >great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.

  Although I don't have a 7000, it is my understanding that the Epson driver
  as used in the variable-tone setup can print visually dotless images on
the
  7000.  (Of course, even Piezo has dots, the question is whether you can
see
  them under the conditions that the image will realistically be viewed.)

  The new MIS VM-Sepia variable-mix/tone inkset covers the range of neutral
to
  sepia tones, and may be something you'd want to consider.  For a sample of
  the tonal range, see

<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Message%20
  Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg>

  Paul
  http://www.PaulRoark.com


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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-03 by Michael Kravit

Quentin,

ImagePrint 4 is dotless. 

Remember that most RIPs compartmentalize the inks from what I understand, and overprint to fill in between  the dots, while dirtributing them to create specialized dither patterns. (My laymans explanation, I know that Austin will give it to me for that one ;-)

Anyway, the dither pattern on IP4 is similar to Piezo but not quite the same. Give me your address and I will send you a print.
I hear that P2 is basically the same dither as IP4 although the P2 version is stripped down and offered with the different parts as an option. For example, Cone charges extra for the color section, etc.

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: qdfb 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 12:36 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?


  Mike, 

  Is Piezo 2 dotless - or should I say, as dotless as Pro24?

  I realise it is probably based on Imageprint 4, but I would think we 
  will have to wait and see output from it to be sure.  Piezo Pro24, on 
  the other hand, is a proven product and has no visible dots on a 
  7000 - to me at any rate :-).  

  I have not seen output from Imageprint 4 - what is its B&W output 
  like?  I guess if *that* is dotless, that probably answers the 
  querstion for Piezo 2 as well.

  --
  Quentin

  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit" 
  <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
  > Garry,
  > 
  > There are a few option to get dot free images (both b/w and color) 
  on Epson 7k/9k series printers.
  > 
  > I wil list a few for you:
  > 
  > 1. PiezoBW24Pro
  > Uses Cone inks and driver. (Can use MIS FS inks)
  > 
  > 2. Piezo 2
  > Uses a third party RIP licenses to Cone and Cone inks. (Can use MIS 
  FS inks)
  > 
  > 3. ImagePrint 4 by Colorbyte Software
  > Uses a large range of inks both quad black and color including 
  Cone, MIS FS, and Lyon Quads.
  > 
  > 4. Wausatch RIP
  > Uses a large range of color inks and supports MIS Quad black inks.
  > 
  > 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
  > Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
  > 
  > I am sure that as time goes on, more products will become available.
  > 
  > Mike
  > 
  > Michael J. Kravit
  > Architect/Photographer
  >   ----- Original Message ----- 
  >   From: garrysarre 
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 4:58 AM
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?
  > 
  > 
  >   It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot 
  free 
  >   printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000 
  >   that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's 
  have 
  >   to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done 
  >   great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.
  > 
  >   Garry Sarre
  > 
  >   www.sarre.com.au
  > 
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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-03 by garrysarre

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit" 
<michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> Garry,
> 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
> Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
>  
> Mike

I thought Epson Drivers weren't as dotless as the Piezo. Why go for 
a RIP at all then

Garry

Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-03 by SKID Photography

garrysarre wrote:

>  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit"
> <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
> > Garry,
> > 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
> > Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
> >
> > Mike
>
> I thought Epson Drivers weren't as dotless as the Piezo. Why go for
> a RIP at all then
>
> Garry

From what I have seen, what one can say is that they are different.  The Piezo
driver uses a grid pattern (albeit a fine one) and the Epson driven is a more
stochastic patterned halftone.

Harvey Ferdschneider
partner, SKID Photography, NYC





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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-03 by Michael Kravit

Garry,

By using an adjustment curve, the Epson driver can be made to "print-in" between the dots and create a solid patch of color. This is what the curves that Paul Roark developed do. The upside is you save a lot of money on a RIP. You may want to try this first and see if it meets your needs. By using the new Sepia-Neutral MIS VM inks in this manner you should be able to make lovely prints.

One other thing, depending on the paper and it's "bleed" characteristics, you can get completely dither-free prints. I find that the BrightCube paper have this characterisitic.

Mike
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
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  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, February 03, 2002 3:03 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?


  --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael Kravit" 
  <michael.kravit@w...> wrote:
  > Garry,
  > 5. MIS Variable Mix inks
  > Uses Epson Driver and MIS VM inks.
  >  
  > Mike

  I thought Epson Drivers weren't as dotless as the Piezo. Why go for 
  a RIP at all then

  Garry



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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-04 by bill_bergh

I see that a message that is headed " Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?"  becomes a suble sales pitch for MIS - geez Paul - whats the connection here - have you ever gone back through the archives and looked at the trail you left behind???  Oh what a tangled web we weave eh??

Best regards, 
Bill Bergh





--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
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> I see the URL of the Vm-Sepia sample that I listed my previous post did not
> survive the Yahoo formatting.
> 
> I thought the brackets were supposed to do that.  Anyone know how to post a
> long URL in tact?
> 
> Anyway, the URL for the files section of this forum is:
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/>
> 
> Then you can paste the following onto the end of the above to get to the
> sample:
> 
> Message%20Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg
> 
> 
> 
> Paul
> 
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@v...]
>   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:32 AM
>   To: DigitalB&WPrint
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?
> 
> 
>   Garry,
> 
>   You wrote:
> 
>   >It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot free
>   >printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000
>   >that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's have
>   >to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done
>   >great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.
> 
>   Although I don't have a 7000, it is my understanding that the Epson driver
>   as used in the variable-tone setup can print visually dotless images on
> the
>   7000.  (Of course, even Piezo has dots, the question is whether you can
> see
>   them under the conditions that the image will realistically be viewed.)
> 
>   The new MIS VM-Sepia variable-mix/tone inkset covers the range of neutral
> to
>   sepia tones, and may be something you'd want to consider.  For a sample of
>   the tonal range, see
> 
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/Message%20
>   Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg>
> 
>   Paul
>   http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> 
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RE: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?

2002-02-04 by Tim Atherton

what's the particular axe you have to grind Bill?

Tim A
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: bill_bergh [mailto:bergh@...]
> Sent: February 3, 2002 5:42 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?
>
>
> I see that a message that is headed " Piezo on 7000 - good enough
> for 8x10?"  becomes a suble sales pitch for MIS - geez Paul -
> whats the connection here - have you ever gone back through the
> archives and looked at the trail you left behind???  Oh what a
> tangled web we weave eh??
>
> Best regards,
> Bill Bergh
>
>
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > I see the URL of the Vm-Sepia sample that I listed my previous
> post did not
> > survive the Yahoo formatting.
> >
> > I thought the brackets were supposed to do that.  Anyone know
> how to post a
> > long URL in tact?
> >
> > Anyway, the URL for the files section of this forum is:
> > <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/>
> >
> > Then you can paste the following onto the end of the above to get to the
> > sample:
> >
> > Message%20Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul
> >
> >   -----Original Message-----
> >   From: Paul Roark [mailto:paul.roark@v...]
> >   Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2002 10:32 AM
> >   To: DigitalB&WPrint
> >   Subject: [Digital BW] Piezo on 7000 - good enough for 8x10?
> >
> >
> >   Garry,
> >
> >   You wrote:
> >
> >   >It seems Piezo software is the only answer for relatively dot free
> >   >printing. I need an all in one solution - possibly a 7000 or 9000
> >   >that can print 8x10's through to 20x30's ganged up. The 8x10's have
> >   >to stand up to a closer viewing distance of course. Anyone done
> >   >great 8x10's on these larger machines. I Print very warm sepia.
> >
> >   Although I don't have a 7000, it is my understanding that the
> Epson driver
> >   as used in the variable-tone setup can print visually dotless
> images on
> > the
> >   7000.  (Of course, even Piezo has dots, the question is
> whether you can
> > see
> >   them under the conditions that the image will realistically
> be viewed.)
> >
> >   The new MIS VM-Sepia variable-mix/tone inkset covers the
> range of neutral
> > to
> >   sepia tones, and may be something you'd want to consider.
> For a sample of
> >   the tonal range, see
> >
> >
> <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/
> Message%20
> >   Related%20Files/11_2001%20uploads/VM-Sepia3-N3.jpg>
> >
> >   Paul
> >   http://www.PaulRoark.com
> >
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