Digital BW, The Print

Hmm....as a casual observer (buyer) it would appear that the prints made by Photographer B are "worth more" or "better" and hence more likely to get my attention....(and I have never seen a print!).  

Consider that the lower price (always set by a photographer themselves) is an indication of low "self-esteem" in a very monetary way.    (wink)

Of course if you are making Carbon Quadtones of Johnny's soccer team...or something like the family cat,   it may not sell too well at $150.   (grin)

Your post does not indicate if these prices were above and beyond a "sitting fee" or other fees which may apply in addition to the print price itself.  

And...if they are "fine art prints" and sold as such...then the "artist" must consider those $35 fine art prints to be mighty "fine."  

By the way, none of what I just wrote is intended to offend...merely to open an eye or two.  

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: frankg_photo 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


  I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the 
  photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.

  I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a 
  search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment 
  quadtone' prices:

  Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
  Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
  Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150, 
  Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50

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Congrats Mike!

Now remember that old song from the '70s....

"That's the way to do it....money for (fine art prints) and your chicks for free"

Of course your images are worth more...they are beautiful images and prints.  (sincerely)

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Kravit 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:31 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


  A couple of weeks ago I had two 11x14 un-numbered prints on Hahnemuhle
  Germanm Etching sell in a gallery unframed for $375 each.

  Mike


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
  Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


  > I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the
  > photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.
  >
  > I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a
  > search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment
  > quadtone' prices:
  >
  > Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
  > Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
  > Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150,
  > Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50
  >
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Well done Mike ! Nice prices - it must've been the sweetest $375 
you've ever earned :-)

Steadman, to clarify - I'm really only referring to "fine art" print 
sales - directly sold to buyers or via galleries or ? I'm not talking 
about assignments, sittings etc.

A couple of weeks ago I had two 11x14 un-numbered prints on Hahnemuhle
Germanm Etching sell in a gallery unframed for $375 each.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


> I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the
> photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.
>
> I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a
> search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment
> quadtone' prices:
>
> Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
> Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
> Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150,
> Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50
>
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>
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Steadman,

Actually the prints were sold in a benefit auction for abused kids, so I did
not care if they sold for less than I would normally get. I just wanted all
of the money to go to help. Made me feel good.

Hey, so waht you been up to? New projects, prints, etc.? Anything special in
b/w digital?

I am sitting here on this cold rainy/stormy S. Florida morning, (actually a
welcome change), doing some scanning and printing.

Mike


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


> Congrats Mike!
>
> Now remember that old song from the '70s....
>
> "That's the way to do it....money for (fine art prints) and your chicks
for free"
>
> Of course your images are worth more...they are beautiful images and
prints.  (sincerely)
>
> Steadman
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Kravit
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:31 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
>
>
>   A couple of weeks ago I had two 11x14 un-numbered prints on Hahnemuhle
>   Germanm Etching sell in a gallery unframed for $375 each.
>
>   Mike
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
>   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
>   Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
>
>
>   > I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the
>   > photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.
>   >
>   > I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a
>   > search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment
>   > quadtone' prices:
>   >
>   > Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
>   > Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
>   > Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150,
>   > Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50
>   >
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Hey Mike, 

I will catch up with you off list...but I don't have your email address here on this pc (the one I use for internet) it is back over at my studio...so...

Steadman

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Kravit 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:46 PM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


  Steadman,

  Actually the prints were sold in a benefit auction for abused kids, so I did
  not care if they sold for less than I would normally get. I just wanted all
  of the money to go to help. Made me feel good.

  Hey, so waht you been up to? New projects, prints, etc.? Anything special in
  b/w digital?

  I am sitting here on this cold rainy/stormy S. Florida morning, (actually a
  welcome change), doing some scanning and printing.

  Mike


  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
  To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:31 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


  > Congrats Mike!
  >
  > Now remember that old song from the '70s....
  >
  > "That's the way to do it....money for (fine art prints) and your chicks
  for free"
  >
  > Of course your images are worth more...they are beautiful images and
  prints.  (sincerely)
  >
  > Steadman
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Michael Kravit
  >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:31 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
  >
  >
  >   A couple of weeks ago I had two 11x14 un-numbered prints on Hahnemuhle
  >   Germanm Etching sell in a gallery unframed for $375 each.
  >
  >   Mike
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
  >   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
  >   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
  >   Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
  >
  >
  >   > I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the
  >   > photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.
  >   >
  >   > I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a
  >   > search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment
  >   > quadtone' prices:
  >   >
  >   > Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
  >   > Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
  >   > Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150,
  >   > Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50
  >   >
  >   > Any contributions to this ?
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  >   >
  >   >
  >   > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, Bookmarks, Polls
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michael.kravit@...


----- Original Message -----
From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?


> Hey Mike,
>
> I will catch up with you off list...but I don't have your email address
here on this pc (the one I use for internet) it is back over at my
studio...so...
>
> Steadman
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Michael Kravit
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:46 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
>
>
>   Steadman,
>
>   Actually the prints were sold in a benefit auction for abused kids, so I
did
>   not care if they sold for less than I would normally get. I just wanted
all
>   of the money to go to help. Made me feel good.
>
>   Hey, so waht you been up to? New projects, prints, etc.? Anything
special in
>   b/w digital?
>
>   I am sitting here on this cold rainy/stormy S. Florida morning,
(actually a
>   welcome change), doing some scanning and printing.
>
>   Mike
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "Steadman Uhlich" <steadmanuhlich@...>
>   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:31 AM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
>
>
>   > Congrats Mike!
>   >
>   > Now remember that old song from the '70s....
>   >
>   > "That's the way to do it....money for (fine art prints) and your
chicks
>   for free"
>   >
>   > Of course your images are worth more...they are beautiful images and
>   prints.  (sincerely)
>   >
>   > Steadman
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: Michael Kravit
>   >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
>   >   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 12:31 PM
>   >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale
prices ?
>   >
>   >
>   >   A couple of weeks ago I had two 11x14 un-numbered prints on
Hahnemuhle
>   >   Germanm Etching sell in a gallery unframed for $375 each.
>   >
>   >   Mike
>   >
>   >
>   >   ----- Original Message -----
>   >   From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
>   >   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
>   >   Sent: Saturday, February 16, 2002 11:01 AM
>   >   Subject: [Digital BW] Pricing Prints - (was print quad sale prices ?
>   >
>   >
>   >   > I know that print prices are very subjective and determined by the
>   >   > photographer's name, the gallery, the market etc.
>   >   >
>   >   > I was hoping to get a ballpark of the $ figures you use - I did a
>   >   > search on google and came up with the following 'carbon pigment
>   >   > quadtone' prices:
>   >   >
>   >   > Photographer A - 5x7 @$45, 8x10 @$60, 11x14 @75
>   >   > Photographer B - 8x10 @$150, 11x14 @300, 14x16 or 16x20 @$600
>   >   > Photographer C - 4x5 @$40, 6.5x9.75 @$50, 13.5x20 @$150,
>   >   > Photographer D - 8x10 @$35, 11x14 @$35, 13x19 @$50
>   >   >
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