Doepfer

If your coming from a buchla background, I suspect you'll be sorely disappointed by the doepfer. You might want to just start saving for a 200e. 

--- On Sun, 11/23/08, Sean Hart <dubvegan@yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Sean Hart <dubvegan@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: starting a modular
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 1:43 PM










    
            my intention is to start with  simple system, i will eventually

replace and add more and different osc's and have a decent variety of

filters. i would also add an external input/envelope follower for

processing external sounds. i am very fond of LFOs and the various

ways you can abuse them. i knew i needed a VCA and a mixer, though i

forgot to add them to the list.



and i have certainly looked at other manufactures. there are a lot of

really cool modules out there. this is certainly something that could

keep me perpetually broke.



thanks for the input and insight.



s



--- In Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com, Bakis Sirros

<synth_freak_ 2000@...> wrote:

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> the A110's are nice osc's and offer good 'bung for buck' (as they say).

> they have their own sound. some like it some not.

> simple as that.

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> --- On Sun, 11/23/08, Argitoth <argitoth@.. .> wrote:

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> From: Argitoth <argitoth@.. .>

> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] starting a modular

> To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Sunday, November 23, 2008, 7:35 AM

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> York, to defend myself, I did own A-110 VCOs which I got for $150

> each. I sold them to buy Analog Systems VCOs for about $255 each

> (price includes power conversion). I should have said that it is my

> personal opinion that I think A-110s have low bang-for-buck. I should

> also say I have a very low tolerance for imperfections, so others will

> definitely find the A-110s suitable. Yes, they did have good pitch

> tracking, but for $50 more you can buy VCOs with more features.

> 

> I would have purchased the Tip Top VCOs in a heart beat had I known

> about them (but they weren't even announced when I got my VCOs). Top

> Top VCOs are less expensive than Analog Systems VCOs (mainly because

> of power conversion) and probably have some niiice features that the

> Analog Systems VCOs do not have.

> 

> On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 9:01 PM, york luethje <ybl@...> wrote:

> > Argitoth is right, no need to rush. A good starting point is

> >

> > http://mega. modularplanner. co.uk/standard. html

> >

> > There you have all current manufacturers for the eurorack-format

in one

> > comprehensive package. And you definitely should get a multiple.

> >

> > However

> >

> > "I heard that some people like to remove the spring from the Doepfer

> > joystick as it doesn't return back to its center with the spring... it

> > returns a bit off center which would be gay in my opinion."

> >

> > Never heard of that. Mine works fine for the best part of this

decade. And I

> > have an unsprung one as well.

> >

> > "You definitely don't want to spend money on the cheapest VCO (doepfer

> > A-110) as you'd be getting the least bang for buck."

> >

> > This kind of sentiment always struck me as a bit strange. It seems

to be an

> > article of faith amongst the cognoscenti that the A-110 is an inferior

> > product. It is not considering the price-point. My impression was

that the

> > OP had a budget of USD 2k. Sure there are other oscillators but

getting two

> > good ones for USD 400? That also track very well over a wide

range? And hold

> > their tuning no matter what, over days if need be?

> >

> > Debates over oscillators are superseded in subjective POV only by

> > filter-battles and I don't want to get into that. Just dislike the

habitual

> > bashing of a very competent product. Below are the OSCs I can

think of:

> > together with their prices:

> >

> > Doepfer A-110 200,-

> > Doepfer A-111 350,- Triangle core

> > Tip-Top Z-3000 250,-

> > Analogue Solutions 185,-

> > Cwejman VCO 2RM 640,- 2 VCOs + RingMod

> > Cwejman VCO 6 425,-

> > Cyindustries Zeroscillator 995,-

> > Metasonix TM 3 550,- 2 OSCs, not much tracking but...mmmh! Eric

Barbour is

> > God.

> > MFB OSC 1 220,- 3 DCOs

> > MFB OSC 2 299,- 3 VCOs

> > Plan B Model 15 320 Triangle core

> > Analogue Systems RS95 240,-

> > Livewire Dalek VCO 260,- VCO + RingMod

> > Livewire AFG 399,-

> >

> > Best

> >

> > York

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: Argitoth <argitoth@gmail. com>

> > To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com

> > Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 8:57:36 PM

> > Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] starting a modular

> >

> > I would suggest Tip Top Audio VCOs (which I don't own):

> > http://www.analogue haven.com/ tiptopaudio/ z3000/

> >

> > You definitely don't want to spend money on the cheapest VCO (doepfer

> > A-110) as you'd be getting the least bang for buck.

> >

> > I heard that some people like to remove the spring from the Doepfer

> > joystick as it doesn't return back to its center with the spring... it

> > returns a bit off center which would be gay in my opinion.

> >

> > OK! YOU REALLLLLLY HAVE TO STOP AND THINK ABOUT THIS: Really think

> > about how you are going to handle mixing/merging, inverting, and

> > splitting/multiplyi ng, and attenuating signals. Some modules have

> > multiple ins and multiple outs, some modules can attenuate, some

> > modules can't, etc. There are many options for signal routing modules.

> > I personally think the best way to go it to get mixing/merging modules

> > that don't have attenuation knobs and get one or two dedicated

> > attenuation modules. The reason for this is that most of the time, a

> > module's input has an attenuator. Signal Mixers and Multipliers that

> > have multiple ins/outs generally don't have attenuation knobs, but

> > they are extremely useful.

> >

> > http://www.noisebug .net/site/ analoguesolution s/index.cfm? id=10

> > http://www.noisebug .net/site/ analoguesolution s/index.cfm? id=21

> > http://www.noisebug .net/site/ planb/index. cfm?id=24

> > http://www.noisebug .net/site/ planb/index. cfm?id=18

> >

> > You need one signal multiplier that is buffered (low signal

> > degradation when multiplying a signal) so that you can route 1v/oct

> > signals to multiple oscillators, filters, and whatever else. The MX224

> > is not good enough for some reason, but it's GREAT for general

> > purposes. I have a Plan B Model 31 Buffered Multi in the mail so I'll

> > see if that is any better.

> >

> > An A-138c is a very useful mixer because it can invert a signal by any

> > amount. By the way, signal inversion is one way to make filters

> > distort and scream.

> >

> > On Sat, Nov 22, 2008 at 6:11 PM, york luethje <ybl@...> wrote:

> >> Hi Sean,

> >>

> >> you could substitute the A-143-2 and A-143-3 with a A-143-1. It

gives you

> >> four independent AD envelopes or 4 independent LFOs or a complex

envelope,

> >> depending on mode. You should definitely think about adding some

VCAs, for

> >> example the A-132 dual VCA.

> >>

> >> York

> >>

> >> ____________ _________ _________ __

> >> From: Sean Hart <dubvegan@yahoo. com>

> >> To: Doepfer_a100@ yahoogroups. com

> >> Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 7:15:34 PM

> >> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] starting a modular

> >>

> >> fortunately and unfortunately, i have a friend that has a buchla 200.

> >> furtunately, because i get to play it when i visit him.

unfurtunately,

> >> because it makes me want an analogue modular ($$$). i would most

> >> likely have to build it a little at a time, but i am thinking:

> >>

> >> A-110 Standard VCO x 2

> >> A-114 Dual Ringmodulator

> >> A-121 Multimode Filter (VCF2)

> >> A-138b Mixer

> >> A-143-2 Quad ADSR

> >> A-143-3 Quad LFO

> >> A-174 Joy Stick

> >> A-190 MIDI-to-CV/Gate/ Sync Interface

> >> A-100 Low Cost Suitcase

> >>

> >> which would be just under $2000 (still a decent chunk of money) and i

> >> would still need cables. are there any more options for more

> >> economical modules? and yes, i would continue to buy more modules and

> >> i know that it is something that i would spend, in the long term,

> >> ridiculous amounts of money on.

> >>

> >> comments? suggestions? anything you are selling to help me bring the

> >> initial cost down?

> >>

> >> thanks,

> >> sean

> >>

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