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Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?

2009-10-10 by propane23

Let me see if i've got this right:

Osc A to Ring mod 1 X input
Osc B to Ring mod 1 Y input
Ring mod 1 output to Ring mod 2 X input
Osc B inverted to Ring mod 2 Y input

I've had a few goes and i can't tell any difference between 'mod demod' and just plain two ring mods in series, the following audio has a VCS in the patch to switch the Ring mod 2 Y input between inverted and non-inverted on each new note on.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/marieshrewsbury/ModDemod%20101009.wav

It sounds just the same? First part is using an LFO in the audio range, then i swap patch cables to use a VCO instead, but there is no change on alternate notes.

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?

2009-10-10 by achtung_999

Fast answer without listening to the sound yet..In theory you should have
the upper sum harmonic with the X input as output from the Mod Demod..
So if your sound is a low sine chances are that the difference harmonic is
too low to hear..
Leaving thereby only the sum harmonic and the leakage from the X input...

On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:23 PM, propane23 <propane23@yahoo.com> wrote:

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> Let me see if i've got this right:
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> Osc A to Ring mod 1 X input
> Osc B to Ring mod 1 Y input
> Ring mod 1 output to Ring mod 2 X input
> Osc B inverted to Ring mod 2 Y input
>
> I've had a few goes and i can't tell any difference between 'mod demod' and
> just plain two ring mods in series, the following audio has a VCS in the
> patch to switch the Ring mod 2 Y input between inverted and non-inverted on
> each new note on.
>
> http://homepage.ntlworld.com/marieshrewsbury/ModDemod%20101009.wav
>
> It sounds just the same? First part is using an LFO in the audio range,
> then i swap patch cables to use a VCO instead, but there is no change on
> alternate notes.
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?

2009-10-10 by Shrewsbury Marie

Hang on, so the X input of Ring mod 2 is the output? And the output of Ring mod 1 is patched to the normal output of Ring mod 2, like Ring mod 2 is patched in reverse?



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Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 3:37 PM






 




    
                  Fast answer without listening to the sound yet..In theory you should have

the upper sum harmonic with the X input as output from the Mod Demod..

So if your sound is a low sine chances are that the difference harmonic is

too low to hear..

Leaving thereby only the sum harmonic and the leakage from the X input...



On Sat, Oct 10, 2009 at 4:23 PM, propane23 <propane23@yahoo. com> wrote:



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> Let me see if i've got this right:

>

> Osc A to Ring mod 1 X input

> Osc B to Ring mod 1 Y input

> Ring mod 1 output to Ring mod 2 X input

> Osc B inverted to Ring mod 2 Y input

>

> I've had a few goes and i can't tell any difference between 'mod demod' and

> just plain two ring mods in series, the following audio has a VCS in the

> patch to switch the Ring mod 2 Y input between inverted and non-inverted on

> each new note on.

>

> http://homepage. ntlworld. com/marieshrewsb ury/ModDemod% 20101009. wav

>

> It sounds just the same? First part is using an LFO in the audio range,

> then i swap patch cables to use a VCO instead, but there is no change on

> alternate notes.

>

>  

>



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?

2009-10-10 by achtung_999

no, you patched correctly. I was speaking about the theoretical output
results when inputing sines.

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On 10/10/09, Shrewsbury Marie <propane23@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hang on, so the X input of Ring mod 2 is the output? And the output of Ring
> mod 1 is patched to the normal output of Ring mod 2, like Ring mod 2 is
> patched in reverse?
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> --- On Sat, 10/10/09, achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com> wrote:
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> From: achtung_999 <heinrich.himmelwasser@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Mod-demod - Not quite getting this one?
> To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 3:37 PM
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> you should have
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> the upper sum harmonic with the X input as output from the Mod Demod..
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> So if your sound is a low sine chances are that the difference harmonic is
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> too low to hear..
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> Leaving thereby only the sum harmonic and the leakage from the X input...
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>> Osc A to Ring mod 1 X input
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>> Osc B to Ring mod 1 Y input
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>> Ring mod 1 output to Ring mod 2 X input
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>> Osc B inverted to Ring mod 2 Y input
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>> I've had a few goes and i can't tell any difference between 'mod demod'
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>> just plain two ring mods in series, the following audio has a VCS in the
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Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime soon?

2009-12-30 by Shrewsbury Marie

Hi guys,

Probably going to be looking out for some new modules soon but i need more rack space.

Not worth getting into US shipping and customs issues, but if anyone in the UK or EU plans parting with a G6 or possibly a G3 in the near future, give me a shout.






      

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime soon?

2009-12-30 by Os

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180450067353


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2009/12/30 Shrewsbury Marie <propane23@yahoo.com>

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> Hi guys,
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> Probably going to be looking out for some new modules soon but i need more
> rack space.
>
> Not worth getting into US shipping and customs issues, but if anyone in the
> UK or EU plans parting with a G6 or possibly a G3 in the near future, give
> me a shout.
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime soon?

2010-03-07 by infrequent

Hi,

Did you ever find a g6?  I am thinking of selling one of mine.  I am in
Bristol, btw.

rgds

Pierre

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Shrewsbury Marie <propane23@yahoo.com>wrote:

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> Hi guys,
>
> Probably going to be looking out for some new modules soon but i need more
> rack space.
>
> Not worth getting into US shipping and customs issues, but if anyone in the
> UK or EU plans parting with a G6 or possibly a G3 in the near future, give
> me a shout.
>
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime soon?

2010-03-07 by Shrewsbury Marie

Hiya,

Not yet. I'm in Leeds. So only a good idea if you're up for shipping?



--- On Sun, 3/7/10, infrequent <infrequent.listener@gmail.com> wrote:

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From: infrequent <infrequent.listener@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime  soon?
To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 7, 2010, 11:18 AM

      Hi,

Did you ever find a g6?  I am thinking of selling one of mine.  I am in

Bristol, btw.

rgds

Pierre

On Wed, Dec 30, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Shrewsbury Marie <propane23@yahoo. com>wrote:

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> Hi guys,

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> Probably going to be looking out for some new modules soon but i need more

> rack space.

>

> Not worth getting into US shipping and customs issues, but if anyone in the

> UK or EU plans parting with a G6 or possibly a G3 in the near future, give

> me a shout.

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Any UK/EUers selling a G6 or G3 frame anytime soon?

2010-03-07 by infrequent

I don't have any boxes big enough at the moment for shipping.  However, it's
possible to dismantle it so I might be able to get it into a smaller box.
Are you any good at putting things together?  Also, I might be able to get a
box from Emis next weekend.  In which case no problem either way.  The
general selling rate is 70% of new on the list.  That ok with you?  It would
be a g6 with the second generation PSU and it's only a couple of years old.

rgds

Pierre


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