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a104 vs a127

a104 vs a127

2002-08-28 by digitaldada7

hi,

i own my doepfer system for about 1.5 years (it is  a small system
with only 3 rows; it will be stocked up to 4 rows soon)
does anyone use the a104 trautonium filter or the a127 vc triple
resonance filter?
I'd like to do some formant synthesis, but i don't know which
of those filter is the better one; four bandpass filters, which you
can easily change into lowpass filter or three bandpass filter with
the possibility of  cv (or integrated lfo's) and single
outputs.... did anyone try to upgrade the a127 by using external
switches for the possibility to select between low and banpass filter
(like the a104)? i think that it would be not very difficult to
connect a switch to each jumper.

which modul do you think sounds better, the a104 or the a127?
maybe someone can make a short demo file... 

thanks a lot,

andreas

Re: a104 vs a127

2002-08-30 by stinchcombe_t

Hi Andreas,

> outputs.... did anyone try to upgrade the a127 by using external
> switches for the possibility to select between low and banpass 
filter
> (like the a104)? i think that it would be not very difficult to
> connect a switch to each jumper.

Yes, this *is* very easy to do - I bought some connectors which 
fitted directly to the jumpers, then mounted some toggle switches on 
a 4HP blank which just sits next to my A-127 in the rack. (I don't 
really have the expertise to comment on the usefulness of one filter 
over the other!)

Tim

Metal blank panels

2002-08-30 by buechlerjoe

> I bought some connectors which fitted directly to the jumpers, then 
> mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank which just sits next to 
> my A-127 in the rack. 

Would anyone besides myself like to see some metal blank panels to 
use for DIY modules? With the standard A100 finish and maybe even with 
the Doepfer logo on them?

Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by making a panel available 
for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it be easy to also make 
4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?

Joe

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: a104 vs a127

2002-08-30 by Paul Schulz

Hey Tim,
  why didn´t you drill the holes directly into the A-127 resonance filter? There´s enough place for 3 toggle switches betweeen the "audio in"-pot and the "original"-pot. Saves 4 HP. 

  Paul.




  Yes, this *is* very easy to do - I bought some connectors which 
  fitted directly to the jumpers, then mounted some toggle switches on 
  a 4HP blank which just sits next to my A-127 in the rack. (I don't 
  really have the expertise to comment on the usefulness of one filter 
  over the other!)

  Tim


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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Metal blank panels

2002-08-30 by Paul Schulz

You should find blank plates like this (same finish as Doepfer; various HPs) in every good store selling electronic parts. Conrad has them too, even 84 hp wide ones.

Paul
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: buechlerjoe 
  To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 6:22 PM
  Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Metal blank panels


  > I bought some connectors which fitted directly to the jumpers, then 
  > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank which just sits next to 
  > my A-127 in the rack. 

  Would anyone besides myself like to see some metal blank panels to 
  use for DIY modules? With the standard A100 finish and maybe even with 
  the Doepfer logo on them?

  Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by making a panel available 
  for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it be easy to also make 
  4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?

  Joe


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Re: Metal blank panels

2002-08-31 by jmaddocks1975

Joe,

http://www.doepfer.de/a100z_e.htm

John.


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe" <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > I bought some connectors which fitted directly to the jumpers, 
then 
> > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank which just sits next 
to 
> > my A-127 in the rack. 
> 
> Would anyone besides myself like to see some metal blank panels to 
> use for DIY modules? With the standard A100 finish and maybe even 
with 
> the Doepfer logo on them?
> 
> Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by making a panel 
available 
> for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it be easy to also 
make 
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> 4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?
> 
> Joe

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-08-31 by buechlerjoe

Hi John,

Those are the plastic blank panels that we all know and love :-)

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "jmaddocks1975" <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
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> Joe,
> 
> http://www.doepfer.de/a100z_e.htm
> 
> John.
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe" <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > I bought some connectors which fitted directly to the jumpers, 
> then 
> > > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank which just sits next 
> to 
> > > my A-127 in the rack. 
> > 
> > Would anyone besides myself like to see some metal blank panels to 
> > use for DIY modules? With the standard A100 finish and maybe even 
> with 
> > the Doepfer logo on them?
> > 
> > Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by making a panel 
> available 
> > for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it be easy to also 
> make 
> > 4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?
> > 
> > Joe

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-08-31 by buechlerjoe

Hmmm ... on closer inspection, I see you're right. Well, it's not 
the first time I didn't know what I was talking about :-)

I see our little friend is back with a new Yahoo ID, and the same old 
tiresome Tripod crap. Time to do some detective work and lodge a 
complaint with his ISP.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
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> hi joe,
> what?my doepfer blank panels are metal......and those
> advertised in the website are metal,too.
> bakis.
> 
> 
> --- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > Hi John,
> > 
> > Those are the plastic blank panels that we all know
> > and love :-)
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "jmaddocks1975"
> > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > Joe,
> > > 
> > > http://www.doepfer.de/a100z_e.htm
> > > 
> > > John.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe"
> > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > I bought some connectors which fitted directly
> > to the jumpers, 
> > > then 
> > > > > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank
> > which just sits next 
> > > to 
> > > > > my A-127 in the rack. 
> > > > 
> > > > Would anyone besides myself like to see some
> > metal blank panels to 
> > > > use for DIY modules? With the standard A100
> > finish and maybe even 
> > > with 
> > > > the Doepfer logo on them?
> > > > 
> > > > Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by
> > making a panel 
> > > available 
> > > > for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it
> > be easy to also 
> > > make 
> > > > 4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?
> > > > 
> > > > Joe
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> athens-greece
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> 
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-08-31 by bakis Sirros

hi joe,
what?my doepfer blank panels are metal......and those
advertised in the website are metal,too.
bakis.


--- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@toadmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> 
> Those are the plastic blank panels that we all know
> and love :-)
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "jmaddocks1975"
> <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > Joe,
> > 
> > http://www.doepfer.de/a100z_e.htm
> > 
> > John.
> > 
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe"
> <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > I bought some connectors which fitted directly
> to the jumpers, 
> > then 
> > > > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP blank
> which just sits next 
> > to 
> > > > my A-127 in the rack. 
> > > 
> > > Would anyone besides myself like to see some
> metal blank panels to 
> > > use for DIY modules? With the standard A100
> finish and maybe even 
> > with 
> > > the Doepfer logo on them?
> > > 
> > > Doepfer has started this practice somewhat by
> making a panel 
> > available 
> > > for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would it
> be easy to also 
> > make 
> > > 4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?
> > > 
> > > Joe
> 
> 


=====
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athens-greece
[Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator

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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-01 by bakis Sirros

hi joe,
this new member will be banned too!but where could i
send a complaint?and what is this "ISP"?i hope i don't
sound very stupid with this last question... :-)
bakis.



--- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@toadmail.com> wrote:
> Hmmm ... on closer inspection, I see you're right.
> Well, it's not 
> the first time I didn't know what I was talking
> about :-)
> 
> I see our little friend is back with a new Yahoo ID,
> and the same old 
> tiresome Tripod crap. Time to do some detective work
> and lodge a 
> complaint with his ISP.
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., bakis Sirros
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi joe,
> > what?my doepfer blank panels are metal......and
> those
> > advertised in the website are metal,too.
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > --- buechlerjoe <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > Hi John,
> > > 
> > > Those are the plastic blank panels that we all
> know
> > > and love :-)
> > > 
> > > Joe
> > > 
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "jmaddocks1975"
> > > <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> > > > Joe,
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.doepfer.de/a100z_e.htm
> > > > 
> > > > John.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe"
> > > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > > > > I bought some connectors which fitted
> directly
> > > to the jumpers, 
> > > > then 
> > > > > > mounted some toggle switches on a 4HP
> blank
> > > which just sits next 
> > > > to 
> > > > > > my A-127 in the rack. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Would anyone besides myself like to see some
> > > metal blank panels to 
> > > > > use for DIY modules? With the standard A100
> > > finish and maybe even 
> > > > with 
> > > > > the Doepfer logo on them?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Doepfer has started this practice somewhat
> by
> > > making a panel 
> > > > available 
> > > > > for mounting the Conrad oscilloscope. Would
> it
> > > be easy to also 
> > > > make 
> > > > > 4U, 8U, 12U and 22U metal panels available?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Joe
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
> > synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> > athens-greece
> > [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> > 
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Yahoo! Finance - Get real-time stock quotes
> > http://finance.yahoo.com
> 
> 


=====
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athens-greece
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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-01 by Paul Schulz

Back to the topic...
has anyone some modules with plexiglass faceplates?? Could look kinda nice, especially combined with LEDs.
A friend of mine has built a 6U case for his Doepfer made of plexiglass. Looks really wonderful, I´ve got to add a picture of it to the photo section one day, biut it still has not enough modules ;-)

best, 
Paul
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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bakis Sirros 
  To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 3:16 PM
  Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels


  hi joe,
  this new member will be banned too!but where could i
  send a complaint?and what is this "ISP"?i hope i don't
  sound very stupid with this last question... :-)
  bakis.





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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-02 by Florian Anwander

Hi bakis 

> and what is this "ISP"?
It is an acronym and means "I"nternet "S"ervices "P"rovider.


> i hope i don't
> sound very stupid with this last question... :-)
I didn't know this also until a year ago, so either we both are stupids or
you aren't (I prefer the latter ;-) )

Florian
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Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-02 by flamey101

hah, sounds greaat!
Where did he buy it, or did he make one himself?
Would they also have tinted plexiglass?
This would look totally awesome next to my transparent-blue PC...!!!!

Greeting, Zameer

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Back to the topic...
> has anyone some modules with plexiglass faceplates?? Could look 
kinda nice, especially combined with LEDs.
> A friend of mine has built a 6U case for his Doepfer made of 
plexiglass. Looks really wonderful, I´ve got to add a picture of it 
to the photo section one day, biut it still has not enough modules ;-)
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> 
> best, 
> Paul
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: bakis Sirros 
>   To: Doepfer_a100@y... 
>   Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2002 3:16 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> 
> 
>   hi joe,
>   this new member will be banned too!but where could i
>   send a complaint?and what is this "ISP"?i hope i don't
>   sound very stupid with this last question... :-)
>   bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-03 by Paul Schulz

Okay, I upped the photo of the plexi case to the photo section, in the "Posmos" folder.

This small system which has grown a little bit since the photo shoot belongs to a friend of mine. It is completely DIY, mounting rails are identical to the Doepfer ones (bought at Conrad). PSU and busboard are from Doepfer. 
In the bottom right corner you can see my Lindhof ringmodulator ( http://www.msc175.de/module/ringmodulator.htm ) whic acts as a "rackfiller" for this photo ;-)

greets, Paul
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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flamey101 
  To: Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:35 PM
  Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels


  hah, sounds greaat!
  Where did he buy it, or did he make one himself?
  Would they also have tinted plexiglass?
  This would look totally awesome next to my transparent-blue PC...!!!!

  Greeting, Zameer




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Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-03 by buechlerjoe

Pretty cool. You're right, it needs plexiglass module panels also. 
It seems like those wouldn't be difficult to cut and drill yourself.

I like the tinted plexiglass idea too!

A metal frame would make it look more like a fish tank.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Okay, I upped the photo of the plexi case to the photo section, in 
the "Posmos" folder.
> 
> This small system which has grown a little bit since the photo shoot 
belongs to a friend of mine. It is completely DIY, mounting rails are 
identical to the Doepfer ones (bought at Conrad). PSU and busboard are 
from Doepfer. 
> In the bottom right corner you can see my Lindhof ringmodulator ( 
http://www.msc175.de/module/ringmodulator.htm ) whic acts as a 
"rackfiller" for this photo ;-)
> 
> greets, Paul
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flamey101 
>   To: Doepfer_a100@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:35 PM
>   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> 
> 
>   hah, sounds greaat!
>   Where did he buy it, or did he make one himself?
>   Would they also have tinted plexiglass?
>   This would look totally awesome next to my transparent-blue 
PC...!!!!
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> 
>   Greeting, Zameer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-03 by flamey101

Great, thanx for the info!
This is what I'm going to do:
I've found a plexiglass supplier here, and I'm going to get some 
transparent-blue plexiglass plates, I think I'm going to make a 9U 
systems from it, so I have a sqaure (almost), and enough space for 
exandability or to space those smallish doepfer modules a little 
out.. :)

do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting rails maybe? 
So I can order that right away?

Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue Systems  
(audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  between 
both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the panel size 
or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for them? 
(let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest Doepfer).

Greetings, Zameer..

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Okay, I upped the photo of the plexi case to the photo section, in 
the "Posmos" folder.
> 
> This small system which has grown a little bit since the photo 
shoot belongs to a friend of mine. It is completely DIY, mounting 
rails are identical to the Doepfer ones (bought at Conrad). PSU and 
busboard are from Doepfer. 
> In the bottom right corner you can see my Lindhof ringmodulator ( 
http://www.msc175.de/module/ringmodulator.htm ) whic acts as 
a "rackfiller" for this photo ;-)
> 
> greets, Paul
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flamey101 
>   To: Doepfer_a100@y... 
>   Sent: Monday, September 02, 2002 8:35 PM
>   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> 
> 
>   hah, sounds greaat!
>   Where did he buy it, or did he make one himself?
>   Would they also have tinted plexiglass?
>   This would look totally awesome next to my transparent-blue 
PC...!!!!
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> 
>   Greeting, Zameer
> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-03 by Paul Schulz

Hey Flamey/ Zameer,

the incompatibilities between Doe. and ASys is not about the mounting rails, but the rails you screw your modules into the frame. They are not part of the mounting rails and have to be bought separately, by the way. For combining ASys and Doepfer you can cut them into parts, or go the cheaper way: Use nuts which fit the module screws and can be put into the mounting rail. 

I´m sorry, but I can´t give any information about the number/ name of the mounting rails. I checked Conrad´s website (www.conrad.com) today, but their search engine is crap. But (once again... I know, guys), check your favorite store for electronic components. The better ones offer those rails and other stuff you can make cases of (like blank faceplates; rails; upper, bottom and side walls). 

Paul
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----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flamey101 
  Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

  ...do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting rails maybe? 
  So I can order that right away?

  Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue Systems  
  (audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  between 
  both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the panel size 
  or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for them? 
  (let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest Doepfer).

  Greetings, Zameer..



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Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by Florian Anwander

Hi

> I've found a plexiglass supplier here, 
Think it over. Plexiglass is very delicate regarding scratches. I know a
guy who had a Formant with plexiglass panels. Every jack that didn't hit
the plug maid a scratch on the panels, so it looked wuite ugly after some
time. I would prefer acrylic, but I do not have any experience with it.

Florian
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Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
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Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by flamey101

> But (once again... I know, guys), check your favorite store for 
electronic components
So, you're telling me that I have to get out of the house (long live 
postal order).. hehe... I'll ask around over here and see how far I 
can get with it...

For the ASys mounting rails issue: I think I'll go for the nuts 
option. I think I'll have to see a mounting rail to fully understand 
what you were saying..


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Hey Flamey/ Zameer,
> 
> the incompatibilities between Doe. and ASys is not about the 
mounting rails, but the rails you screw your modules into the frame. 
They are not part of the mounting rails and have to be bought 
separately, by the way. For combining ASys and Doepfer you can cut 
them into parts, or go the cheaper way: . 
> 
> I´m sorry, but I can´t give any information about the number/ name 
of the mounting rails. I checked Conrad´s website (www.conrad.com) 
today, but their search engine is crap. But (once again... I know, 
guys), check your favorite store for electronic components. The 
better ones offer those rails and other stuff you can make cases of 
(like blank faceplates; rails; upper, bottom and side walls). 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flamey101 
>   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> 
>   ...do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting rails 
maybe? 
>   So I can order that right away?
> 
>   Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue 
Systems  
>   (audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  
between 
>   both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the panel 
size 
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>   or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for them? 
>   (let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest Doepfer).
> 
>   Greetings, Zameer..
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by flamey101

Hello Florian,

according to one of the plastic-suppliers plexiglass are acryllic 
plates. But you have indeed other, stronger types of plastics, that 
are to be used as burglar-proof windows, called Lexan (quite nice to 
drill holes in I think).
The thing is that I can only get plexiglass coloured (hopefully 
also "frosted" ,looks nice with blue) .
The other thing is that I'm not going to make module panels from it, 
just the case. The only mod I maybe want to do on my doepfers is 
replace the knobs for AS ones (and in time the mini jacks for metal 
ones?)..

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
wrote:
> Hi
> 
> > I've found a plexiglass supplier here, 
> Think it over. Plexiglass is very delicate regarding scratches. I 
know a
> guy who had a Formant with plexiglass panels. Every jack that 
didn't hit
> the plug maid a scratch on the panels, so it looked wuite ugly 
after some
> time. I would prefer acrylic, but I do not have any experience with 
it.
> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
München
> email: florian.anwander@c... |http://www.consol.de

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by buechlerjoe

Tinted Lexan (polycarbonate) is available. Lexan is very tough, it 
will stop a bullet. It's also quite expensive compared to 
plexiglass.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "flamey101" <flame101@p...> wrote:
> Hello Florian,
> 
> according to one of the plastic-suppliers plexiglass are acryllic 
> plates. But you have indeed other, stronger types of plastics, that 
> are to be used as burglar-proof windows, called Lexan (quite nice to 
> drill holes in I think).
> The thing is that I can only get plexiglass coloured (hopefully 
> also "frosted" ,looks nice with blue) .
> The other thing is that I'm not going to make module panels from it, 
> just the case. The only mod I maybe want to do on my doepfers is 
> replace the knobs for AS ones (and in time the mini jacks for metal 
> ones?)..
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
> wrote:
> > Hi
> > 
> > > I've found a plexiglass supplier here, 
> > Think it over. Plexiglass is very delicate regarding scratches. I 
> know a
> > guy who had a Formant with plexiglass panels. Every jack that 
> didn't hit
> > the plug maid a scratch on the panels, so it looked wuite ugly 
> after some
> > time. I would prefer acrylic, but I do not have any experience 
with 
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> it.
> > 
> > Florian
> > -- 
> > Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
> > Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
> GmbH
> > Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
> München
> > email: florian.anwander@c... |http://www.consol.de

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by duffnuff

speaking of acrylic/plexiglass, though plex may technically be 
acrylic, there is another type of acrylic (but not lexan) that's much 
tougher and durable (and less likely to crack when drilling) but i 
don't know the proper name for it.  when i was a wee lad in the 
70's i had a ludwig vistalite drum kit that was blue see-through 
and was made of some kind of acrylic that withstood batterings 
even of a 6 year old.  very durable!  still in great shape today.  
wish i knew what the material was called, other than 'vistalite'. 
also, if i were making a see-though case i would seriously 
consider florian's suggestion of using something tougher than 
plexiglass. 
btw, for me, aluminum + stainless steel = beautiful.
-duff


--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "flamey101" <flame101@p...> wrote:
> Hello Florian,
> 
> according to one of the plastic-suppliers plexiglass are acryllic 
> plates. But you have indeed other, stronger types of plastics, 
that 
> are to be used as burglar-proof windows, called Lexan (quite 
nice to 
> drill holes in I think).

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by buechlerjoe

I only have A100 modules, but I was under the impression that the 
sliding inner rails in the Doepfer mounting rails can easily be 
adjusted to accomodate the mounting holes in non-Doepfer modules 
(assuming the entire row is RS Integrator or Concussor modules).

It this correct?

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Hey Flamey/ Zameer,
> 
> the incompatibilities between Doe. and ASys is not about the 
mounting rails, but the rails you screw your modules into the frame. 
They are not part of the mounting rails and have to be bought 
separately, by the way. For combining ASys and Doepfer you can cut 
them into parts, or go the cheaper way: Use nuts which fit the module 
screws and can be put into the mounting rail. 
> 
> I´m sorry, but I can´t give any information about the number/ name 
of the mounting rails. I checked Conrad´s website (www.conrad.com) 
today, but their search engine is crap. But (once again... I know, 
guys), check your favorite store for electronic components. The better 
ones offer those rails and other stuff you can make cases of (like 
blank faceplates; rails; upper, bottom and side walls). 
> 
> Paul
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flamey101 
>   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> 
>   ...do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting rails 
maybe? 
>   So I can order that right away?
> 
>   Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue 
Systems  
>   (audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  
between 
>   both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the panel 
size 
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>   or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for them? 
>   (let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest Doepfer).
> 
>   Greetings, Zameer..
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by duffnuff

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe" <buechlerjoe@t...> 
wrote:
> I only have A100 modules, but I was under the impression that 
the 
> sliding inner rails in the Doepfer mounting rails can easily be 
> adjusted to accomodate the mounting holes in non-Doepfer 
modules 
> (assuming the entire row is RS Integrator or Concussor 
modules).
> 
> It this correct?
> 
> Joe
> 

yes, this is correct.  i have a 6U Doepfer case w 1 row ASys and 
1 row Doepfer, there's enough slack in the sliding mounting rails 
to make a complete row of ASys flush in apperarance despite 
them having a hole-to-edge distance which differs from Doepfer 
faceplates.   on the other hand, i beleive Concussor modules 
can be mixed w the same row as doepfer (w no gap..)
-duff

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-04 by jmaddocks1975

the problem is analogue systems have drilled their holes on the 
modules in a slight different position to doepfer, so you get a gap 
between doepfer and analogue systems modules.

You can buy the rails from Analogue Solutions (don't know what they 
charge), they have a downloadable file about building cases for 
modular systems.

John




--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe" <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> I only have A100 modules, but I was under the impression that the 
> sliding inner rails in the Doepfer mounting rails can easily be 
> adjusted to accomodate the mounting holes in non-Doepfer modules 
> (assuming the entire row is RS Integrator or Concussor modules).
> 
> It this correct?
> 
> Joe
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> > Hey Flamey/ Zameer,
> > 
> > the incompatibilities between Doe. and ASys is not about the 
> mounting rails, but the rails you screw your modules into the 
frame. 
> They are not part of the mounting rails and have to be bought 
> separately, by the way. For combining ASys and Doepfer you can cut 
> them into parts, or go the cheaper way: Use nuts which fit the 
module 
> screws and can be put into the mounting rail. 
> > 
> > I´m sorry, but I can´t give any information about the number/ 
name 
> of the mounting rails. I checked Conrad´s website (www.conrad.com) 
> today, but their search engine is crap. But (once again... I know, 
> guys), check your favorite store for electronic components. The 
better 
> ones offer those rails and other stuff you can make cases of (like 
> blank faceplates; rails; upper, bottom and side walls). 
> > 
> > Paul
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> >   From: flamey101 
> >   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> > 
> >   ...do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting 
rails 
> maybe? 
> >   So I can order that right away?
> > 
> >   Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue 
> Systems  
> >   (audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  
> between 
> >   both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the panel 
> size 
> >   or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for them? 
> >   (let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest 
Doepfer).
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> > 
> >   Greetings, Zameer..
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-05 by flamey101

a-ha, that explains what I've thought when looking at my modules, It 
doesn't look that obvious, though.
A downloadable file? On their website? I've checked a lot of PDF's 
out there nut I couldn't find much information...

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "jmaddocks1975" <jmaddocks1975@y...> wrote:
> the problem is analogue systems have drilled their holes on the 
> modules in a slight different position to doepfer, so you get a gap 
> between doepfer and analogue systems modules.
> 
> You can buy the rails from Analogue Solutions (don't know what they 
> charge), they have a downloadable file about building cases for 
> modular systems.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "buechlerjoe" <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > I only have A100 modules, but I was under the impression that the 
> > sliding inner rails in the Doepfer mounting rails can easily be 
> > adjusted to accomodate the mounting holes in non-Doepfer modules 
> > (assuming the entire row is RS Integrator or Concussor modules).
> > 
> > It this correct?
> > 
> > Joe
> > 
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> > > Hey Flamey/ Zameer,
> > > 
> > > the incompatibilities between Doe. and ASys is not about the 
> > mounting rails, but the rails you screw your modules into the 
> frame. 
> > They are not part of the mounting rails and have to be bought 
> > separately, by the way. For combining ASys and Doepfer you can 
cut 
> > them into parts, or go the cheaper way: Use nuts which fit the 
> module 
> > screws and can be put into the mounting rail. 
> > > 
> > > I´m sorry, but I can´t give any information about the number/ 
> name 
> > of the mounting rails. I checked Conrad´s website 
(www.conrad.com) 
> > today, but their search engine is crap. But (once again... I 
know, 
> > guys), check your favorite store for electronic components. The 
> better 
> > ones offer those rails and other stuff you can make cases of 
(like 
> > blank faceplates; rails; upper, bottom and side walls). 
> > > 
> > > Paul
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > >   From: flamey101 
> > >   Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels
> > > 
> > >   ...do you maybe have a model name/number for the mounting 
> rails 
> > maybe? 
> > >   So I can order that right away?
> > > 
> > >   Also, I currently have  both Doepfer (controls) and Analogue 
> > Systems  
> > >   (audio) modules. I've read there are some incopatibilities  
> > between 
> > >   both of the mounting rails (had something to do with the 
panel 
> > size 
> > >   or something?), but I can use the same mountingrails for 
them? 
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> > >   (let's  say 1 3U of the case all AS and all of the rest 
> Doepfer).
> > > 
> > >   Greetings, Zameer..
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-05 by flamey101

oohw, f**k, not Asys, but Asol... :)
hehe, ah well, thanks for the link, Paul!
This can be quite useful.. :)

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "Paul Schulz" <dasfonk@w...> wrote:
> Watch this:
> http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/cabinet.htm
> 
> 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: flamey101 
>   ..... I've checked a lot of PDF's out there nut I couldn't find 
much information...
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Re: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-05 by Paul Schulz

Watch this:
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~concuss/cabinet.htm


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: flamey101 
  ..... I've checked a lot of PDF's out there nut I couldn't find much information...




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Re: a104 vs a127

2002-09-06 by stinchcombe_t

Hi  Paul,

>   why didn´t you drill the holes directly into the A-127 resonance 
filter? There´s enough place for 3 toggle switches betweeen 
the "audio in"-pot and the "original"-pot. Saves 4 HP. 

Several reasons:
a) cosmetic - would put the zap on the graphics
b) laziness/difficulty - the lower board is right against the bottom 
edge, so would require dismantling the whole thing in order to drill 
the holes - not that I'd really fancy trying to drill holes without 
dismantling it. A blank panel was the path of least resistance!

Tim
(... who'll hopefully have his own PC by next weekend so won't have 
to rely on the internet cafe for access...pain!)

Re: Metal blank panels

2002-09-06 by stinchcombe_t

> the problem is analogue systems have drilled their holes on the 
> modules in a slight different position to doepfer, so you get a gap 
> between doepfer and analogue systems modules.

2 possible ideas to workaround this (maybe?):
1) dissamble the case and cut the strip that the modules screw into 
into shorter lengths so that you *can* slide the modules up against 
each other (i.e. adjacent modules are fixed to a different piece of 
threaded track), or
2) instead of the long rails, slide individual nuts into the track, 
so that you can position the modules anywhere along the length. This 
would make mounting modules pretty fiddly though! The back panel on 
the case is held on in this way, i.e. there are no long strips there, 
just three (or whatever it is) nuts, one for each screw. I'm pretty 
sure the nuts are a standard metric size.

Tim

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