Doepfer

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
Doepfer_a100 group:

What features would you want doepfer to 
include in the new a155 seq controller 
module?(please note that the various 
running mode selection types are 
alternative,choise 1 to 6 exclude one 
another! 

  o manual control by a rotary switch for running mode selection 
  o manual control with up/down buttons for running mode selection 
  o manual control with up/down buttons, controlled with up/down inputs (each pulse selects the next running mode) for running mode selection 
  o voltage controlled running mode selection 
  o separate clock inputs for clock forward and clock backward instead of one of the selection modes above 
  o only one clock input and another (digital) input to select the direction(up/down) 
  o in case of voltage controlled selection or selection with up/down buttons or inputs,of the running mode,user memories for programming different running mode orders 
  o in case of VC running mode selection,led display of the selected running mode 
  o 2 different pendulum modes(like the maq16/3) 
  o integrated voltage controlled clock source 


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Thanks!

If we are discussing enhancements for the A-155 sequencer, I would like to
add some features
that I still really miss in this module:

1) skip on/off switch per sequence step (if on, the sequencer skips this
step and goes to the following directly)
2) the ability to use an (integrated?) clock/trigger with programmable pulse
width and/or programmable step timing, or alternatively a trigger delay
control per step

3) the ability to send out a trigger on more than one channel at once (i.e.
sending the trigger out to 1,2 and 3 at the same time
or a combination of these) 4) a third row of voltage controls would be nice
too

please note: if one of you doepfer-a100 users do know alternative ways or
module uses to get the features above,
I very much welcome their advice

thanks in advance

eric

----- Original Message -----
From: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:22 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100


>
> Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
> Doepfer_a100 group:
>
> What features would you want doepfer to
> include in the new a155 seq controller
> module?(please note that the various
> running mode selection types are
> alternative,choise 1 to 6 exclude one
> another!
>
>   o manual control by a rotary switch for running mode selection
>   o manual control with up/down buttons for running mode selection
>   o manual control with up/down buttons, controlled with up/down inputs
(each pulse selects the next running mode) for running mode selection
>   o voltage controlled running mode selection
>   o separate clock inputs for clock forward and clock backward instead of
one of the selection modes above
>   o only one clock input and another (digital) input to select the
direction(up/down)
>   o in case of voltage controlled selection or selection with up/down
buttons or inputs,of the running mode,user memories for programming
different running mode orders
>   o in case of VC running mode selection,led display of the selected
running mode

>   o 2 different pendulum modes(like the maq16/3)
>   o integrated voltage controlled clock source
>
>
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Hi Eric

Here's a couple:

> 2) the ability to use an (integrated?) clock/trigger with 
> programmable pulse
> width and/or programmable step timing,

I use the VC LFO for that, controlled from the bottom row of knobs. 
Hoping to add the VC Divider for quantization and midi sync.

> or alternatively a trigger delay
> control per step

I think the VC Slew Limiter, controlled from the bottom row of knobs 
and patched to an A150 VC Switch to generate clocks, would work for 
this, but haven't tried it.

Joe

hi
I am quite new user of A100
I want to buy next LFO
and I have problem to choose between A145 and A147
may be you help me a litle bit to decide
if theres makes sense to but 30 euro more expensive 147
(I have already use A146)
thanks
r


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Hi Eric

> If we are discussing enhancements for the A-155 sequencer, I would like to
> add some features that I still really miss in this module: 
> [...nice ideas skipped...]
I personally think, it is against the concept of a modular system, to
develope Modules with very detailed and tricky functions. I personally
would like to have several modules which work together like in the vocoder.

Example: 
Module 1 
 basic Adress-Generator output is a 4(8?)bit digital adress and has basic
internal clock with start/stop and clock out.

Module 2
 CV-multiplexer which is used for scanning Potetiometers or external CVs

Module 3
 Adressed Gate Generator

Module 4 
 Advanced Adress-Generator with up/down/random/whatelse... DIN-Sync,
Shuffle function...

Module 5 
 4Bit-ADC to translate CVs into Sequence adresses


More ideas welcome. It would keep the basic sequencer quite unexpensive but
make it possible to get a very complex system.

Florian
-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

hi florian, i totally agree with you here. what you are basically 
describing here is the modular Emu sequencer system. for those of you 
who need a better understanding, please check out the following url.

http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm

this is the most flexible system, that can tailored to your needs.
i wish for this to become a reality, because the chances of finding 
an Emu sequencing are slim to nil and forget about the asking price.

to talk about this idea, i mentioned in the Touch Sequencer Keyboard  
poll, about a module that was basically the SH101 sequencer and 
arpeggiator. where you could control it from the touch keyboard. in a 
system as the one you mentioned, dave`s system and the Emu system, 
you could bring all these concepts together and have all the 
modularity in the world without constraints or locked into a format 
by having several of these building blocks put together into a single 
module. a lot of my ideas and features for the Touch Sequencer 
Keyboard were based on the Emu sequencer system, the Serge TKB and 
the Buchla Marf and  model 246 sequencer.

thanks for mentioning this option to the group. it is, indeed, a very 
powerful system for sequencing.

i would like to see the proposed A154 include the features from the
DAB 1004 and  DAB 1005 Address Genenrators combined the features of 
the DAB 350 VC Clock. this might be a tall order to fill but it`s 
worth taking a kick at the can. i will show you a photoshop version 
what i have in mind tomorrow.

for those of who you who want more info, read the .pdf Emu Modular 
manual at  this url below.

http://www.emu.com/products/pdf/PDF_manuals/other/Modular/modularop.zi
p

regards,
RM

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
wrote:
> Hi Eric
> 
> > If we are discussing enhancements for the A-155 sequencer, I 
would like to
> > add some features that I still really miss in this module: 
> > [...nice ideas skipped...]
> I personally think, it is against the concept of a modular system, 
to
> develope Modules with very detailed and tricky functions. I 
personally
> would like to have several modules which work together like in the 
vocoder.
> 
> Example: 
> Module 1 
>  basic Adress-Generator output is a 4(8?)bit digital adress and has 
basic
> internal clock with start/stop and clock out.
> 
> Module 2
>  CV-multiplexer which is used for scanning Potetiometers or 
external CVs
> 
> Module 3
>  Adressed Gate Generator
> 
> Module 4 
>  Advanced Adress-Generator with up/down/random/whatelse... DIN-Sync,
> Shuffle function...
> 
> Module 5 
>  4Bit-ADC to translate CVs into Sequence adresses
> 
> 
> More ideas welcome. It would keep the basic sequencer quite 
unexpensive but
> make it possible to get a very complex system.
> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
München
> email: florian.anwander@c... |http://www.consol.de

hi eric,
the pwm for the vc clock source is something that i
want ,too...(maybe a pw knob and a pwm cv input with
attenuator?)
also the skip on/off switch is something that could be
added,too.
but the third cv row and the simultaneus trigger in
all four channels,or even three at once,would require
a totally new sequencer module,not just a new seq
controller board module.
bakis.




--- Quantum Productions <quantumproductions@planet.nl>
wrote:
> If we are discussing enhancements for the A-155
> sequencer, I would like to
> add some features
> that I still really miss in this module:
> 
> 1) skip on/off switch per sequence step (if on, the
> sequencer skips this
> step and goes to the following directly)
> 2) the ability to use an (integrated?) clock/trigger
> with programmable pulse
> width and/or programmable step timing, or
> alternatively a trigger delay
> control per step
> 
> 3) the ability to send out a trigger on more than
> one channel at once (i.e.
> sending the trigger out to 1,2 and 3 at the same
> time
> or a combination of these) 4) a third row of voltage
> controls would be nice
> too
> 
> please note: if one of you doepfer-a100 users do
> know alternative ways or
> module uses to get the features above,
> I very much welcome their advice
> 
> thanks in advance
> 
> eric
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 04, 2002 2:22 PM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] New poll for Doepfer_a100
> 
> 
> >
> > Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been
> created for the
> > Doepfer_a100 group:
> >
> > What features would you want doepfer to
> > include in the new a155 seq controller
> > module?(please note that the various
> > running mode selection types are
> > alternative,choise 1 to 6 exclude one
> > another!
> >
> >   o manual control by a rotary switch for running
> mode selection
> >   o manual control with up/down buttons for
> running mode selection
> >   o manual control with up/down buttons,
> controlled with up/down inputs
> (each pulse selects the next running mode) for
> running mode selection
> >   o voltage controlled running mode selection
> >   o separate clock inputs for clock forward and
> clock backward instead of
> one of the selection modes above
> >   o only one clock input and another (digital)
> input to select the
> direction(up/down)
> >   o in case of voltage controlled selection or
> selection with up/down
> buttons or inputs,of the running mode,user memories
> for programming
> different running mode orders
> >   o in case of VC running mode selection,led
> display of the selected
> running mode
> >   o 2 different pendulum modes(like the maq16/3)
> >   o integrated voltage controlled clock source
> >
> >
> > To vote, please visit the following web page:
> >
> >
>
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Doepfer_a100/surveys?id=10958388
> >
> > Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll
> votes are
> > not collected via email. To vote, you must go to
> the Yahoo! Groups
> > web site listed above.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:
> > doepfer_a100-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com
> >
> >
> >
> > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to
> http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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On 11/4/02 9:36 AM, "Florian Anwander" <Florian.Anwander@consol.de> wrote:


> I personally think, it is against the concept of a modular system, to
> develope Modules with very detailed and tricky functions. I personally
> would like to have several modules which work together like in the vocoder.
> 
> Example: 
> Module 1 
> basic Adress-Generator output is a 4(8?)bit digital adress and has basic
> internal clock with start/stop and clock out.
> 
> Module 2
> CV-multiplexer which is used for scanning Potetiometers or external CVs
> 
> Module 3
> Adressed Gate Generator
> 
> Module 4 
> Advanced Adress-Generator with up/down/random/whatelse... DIN-Sync,
> Shuffle function...
> 
> Module 5 
> 4Bit-ADC to translate CVs into Sequence adresses
> 

I agree with this concept the most. Make it totally modular. Break the
functions into separate modules. Clock modules, the pots, and a gate/rhythm
module. Make different types of clock modules to take care of all the
versions that people crave, all at different prices based on complexity.
Make the digital address buss on a ribbon in back (like the a-160/161) and
with a bit depth that can handle more than one pot bank. Clock modules can
be made in different forms to satisfy the different needs of different
users. I would buy the up/down version with a logic gate in that reverses
the direction, tied to the toggle switch bank of the gate/rhythm module
which is making rhythmic pulses running the next clock module running the
transpose pot bank etc. etc.
The page http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm is the direction to head
towards. A modular design for a modular system. It could always grow. Later
introduce digital modules with even more bizarre clocking controls.
-James

Hi ringmod45 

> who need a better understanding, please check out the following url.
> http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm
> this is the most flexible system, that can tailored to your needs.
I didn't knwo this. This really the direction I want a system like this.


> basically the SH101 sequencer and arpeggiator. 
Yes!!!! I love the SH101-style sequencer. I own the 101, the JX3P and the
MSQ-100 (MIDI-sequencer with realtime and 101 style!). I always wished a
101 style in the Sc*%&twerk...


One module which could give this system its market power should be a
MIDI-Out. So Doepfer would sell this module line not only to the anlogue
fetishists, but also to all MIDIicians.

Florian
-- 
Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software GmbH
Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 München
email: florian.anwander@consol.de |http://www.consol.de

I think this is a great discussion, and I like the idea of a 
modular sequencer system.

I don't have anything to add on the clocking/addressing/run mode 
issues, but here's a few random observations.

I interpreted Dieters message to mean that a new A154?? sequencer 
would be based on the current A155 panel, with the 
ability for a use to upgrade their A155 to the new circuits. I can 
think of pros and cons to this approach (i.e. the "curse of 
compatibility"), but I tend to think the pros would outweigh the cons.

Regarding midi, I think this should be handled in a separate 
CV/Gate-to-midi convertor module, possibly multichannel. This would 
eliminate the risk that midi considerations would end up driving the 
design.

I can think of some modules on the back end - especially a gate 
length/delay module. Basically what the A162 would be in this 
environment, with clock and trigger inputs, voltage-controlled delay 
time, and voltage-controlled note (gate) length (quantized to 1/16, 
1/8, dotted, triplets etc.)

I'd also like a random trigger module, with clock and sequenced CV 
inputs. It would randomly output a trigger on a clock pulse depending 
on the value of the CV (low CV - low probability, high CV - high 
probability, normalized to the sequencers standard CV voltage range).

Joe
--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
wrote:
> Hi ringmod45 
> 
> > who need a better understanding, please check out the following 
url.
> > http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm
> > this is the most flexible system, that can tailored to your needs.
> I didn't knwo this. This really the direction I want a system like 
this.
> 
> 
> > basically the SH101 sequencer and arpeggiator. 
> Yes!!!! I love the SH101-style sequencer. I own the 101, the JX3P 
and the
> MSQ-100 (MIDI-sequencer with realtime and 101 style!). I always 
wished a
> 101 style in the Sc*%&twerk...
> 
> 
> One module which could give this system its market power should be a
> MIDI-Out. So Doepfer would sell this module line not only to the 
anlogue
> fetishists, but also to all MIDIicians.
> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
München
> email: florian.anwander@c... |http://www.consol.de

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., Florian Anwander <Florian.Anwander@c...> 
wrote:
> Hi ringmod45 
> 
> > who need a better understanding, please check out the following 
url.
> > http://www.hotrodmotm.com/seq2.htm
> > this is the most flexible system, that can tailored to your needs.
> I didn't knwo this. This really the direction I want a system like 
this.
> 
> 
> > basically the SH101 sequencer and arpeggiator. 
> Yes!!!! I love the SH101-style sequencer. I own the 101, the JX3P 
and the
> MSQ-100 (MIDI-sequencer with realtime and 101 style!). I always 
wished a
> 101 style in the Sc*%&twerk...

hi florian, 

i have been jonesing for a system like that too, ever since i found 
out about the Emu system. it is also a very interactive environment 
and highly conducive to on the fly and real time playing and 
improvisation.

i own an Sh 101 as well and it is always connected to my A100. the Sh 
101 sequencer is a simple and easy to operate sequencer. it is the 
ideal way to develop quick ideas on the A100. once the phrase is done 
off to the MPC it goes for more editing  and eventually to a song 
chain with other patterns. they should consider building one to go 
with the A100.

you would be able to do SH 101 style sequences with the Schaltwerk, 
if the Bloody thing would have a tied note function, you could chain 
a whole bunch of patterns together to get phrases longer than 16 
steps. 

on the doepfer website forum, Chris Assal says there is 15% memory 
left but continually refuses to acknowledge this fact after he has 
written this statement. he says only ten people are dissatisfied with 
their Schaltwerks( a bit of a pipe dream when you consider the amount 
of people selling their schaltwerks(oops, i guess they got tired of 
doing straight 16th note sequences)). imagine all the people who 
aren`t buying it because it doesn`t have such a simple musical 
function implemented. WHAT DO WE HAVE TO DO TO IMPLEMENT A FEW LINES 
OF CODE TO HAVE A SIMPLE MUSICAL FUNCTION LIKE TIED NOTES. 

> 
> 
> One module which could give this system its market power should be a
> MIDI-Out. So Doepfer would sell this module line not only to the 
anlogue
> fetishists, but also to all MIDIicians.

i agree, this would help recoup the initial investment and give 
doepfer a faster return on investment and also introduce midi guys to 
the A100 world.

> 
> Florian
> -- 
> Florian Anwander                  |ConSol*  HP-Support
> Tel.   +49.89.45841-133           |Consulting&Solutions Software 
GmbH
> Fax    +49.89.45841-139           |Franziskanerstr. 38, D-81669 
München
> email: florian.anwander@c... |http://www.consol.de

--- In Doepfer_a100@y..., "rwert" <musicagenera@y...> wrote:
> hi
> I am quite new user of A100
> I want to buy next LFO
> and I have problem to choose between A145 and A147
> may be you help me a litle bit to decide
> if theres makes sense to but 30 euro more expensive 147
> (I have already use A146)
> thanks
> r
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Hi, rwert.

I have A145&A146&A147.
A147 will be able to make very unique sound if you have more than one
LFO module, an ADSR module, and so on.

Do you use A147 in the simplex?
A147 suggest that it uses with other modules.

I combine an ADSR module with A147, and use often.
I connect the output of the ADSR module to A147.
It becomes unique LFO!

Hi, rwert.

  I have A145&A146&A147.
  A147 will be able to make very unique sound if you have more than one
  LFO module, an ADSR module, and so on.

  Do you use A147 in the simplex?
  A147 suggest that it uses with other modules.

  I combine an ADSR module with A147, and use often.
  I connect the output of the ADSR module to A147.
  It becomes unique LFO!

  hi, thanks for this information, I ordered a147, and I have to say to be suggested by your opinion
  all the best - r


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