Doepfer

This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.

http://www.cyndustries.com/


Regards,
Kevin

No we don't, "we" have now come up with something better in your sketches =)


----- Original Message -----
From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 11:41 PM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Sort of OT: Inverting Attenuator - New Cynthia
module

> This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
>
> http://www.cyndustries.com/
>
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
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hi kevin,
ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
package....
bakis.



--- code_pig <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> 
> http://www.cyndustries.com/
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> 


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Wouldn't that take up like twice the space? Well as you all know I like the
a 129/3 a lot, but I think it is a bit bulky and doesn't really boost
signals. So I think we need a more flexible module and I just sketched a
a137 that is as small as possible but with all the features. If it is
possible to build it in that space I do not know, but AS has a power jack in
the same width so I guess so.

I like slim modules cause that way you can spread between your modules in
many rows. To reach one big from different rows modules takes longer cables
or bus access(I guess, don't have one of those yet).



----- Original Message -----
From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Sort of OT: Inverting Attenuator - New Cynthia
module

> hi kevin,
> ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> package....
> bakis.
>
>
>
> --- code_pig <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> >
> > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
>
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hi andreas,
if you compare this modcan module with the module
combi i mentioned,they take about the same
space...(modcan modules are 5U...)
but,of course,if you just want a doepfer dual
attn./offset module,there is a big difference in space
requirements.
bakis.


--- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com>
wrote:
> Wouldn't that take up like twice the space? Well as
> you all know I like the
> a 129/3 a lot, but I think it is a bit bulky and
> doesn't really boost
> signals. So I think we need a more flexible module
> and I just sketched a
> a137 that is as small as possible but with all the
> features. If it is
> possible to build it in that space I do not know,
> but AS has a power jack in
> the same width so I guess so.
> 
> I like slim modules cause that way you can spread
> between your modules in
> many rows. To reach one big from different rows
> modules takes longer cables
> or bus access(I guess, don't have one of those yet).
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Bakis Sirros" <synth_freak_2000@yahoo.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2003 11:45 AM
> Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] Sort of OT: Inverting
> Attenuator - New Cynthia
> module
> 
> 
> > hi kevin,
> > ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> > a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> > minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> > package....
> > bakis.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- code_pig <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> > >
> > > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
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Bakis,

The point was an attenuator module, and not specifically not 8 
attenuators.  That said, I see your point.

As for your suggestion, I agree you can do a great dal with the A129 
collection of modules, but at a cost.  The solution you outlined will 
cost me over $325 (not even taking into account the G3 or G6 in which 
to house the modules), and will take up 28HP. I think you'll agree 
that it isn't exactly cost effective if one simply wants an 
attenuator/offset or two.

Regards,
Kevin


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> hi kevin,
> ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> package....
> bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> > 
> > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > 
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> =====
> synthfreak(parallel worlds)
> athens-greece
> [Doepfer_a100] group owner-moderator
> 
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I think Dieter had the right idea, putting a circuit for a 
mixer/offset on the new DIY page. An attenuator is an obvious DIY 
module. There's been so many different variations suggested that 
there's now way Doepfer could please everyone.

Joe

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> Bakis,
> 
> The point was an attenuator module, and not specifically not 8 
> attenuators.  That said, I see your point.
> 
> As for your suggestion, I agree you can do a great dal with the A129 
> collection of modules, but at a cost.  The solution you outlined 
will 
> cost me over $325 (not even taking into account the G3 or G6 in 
which 

> to house the modules), and will take up 28HP. I think you'll agree 
> that it isn't exactly cost effective if one simply wants an 
> attenuator/offset or two.
> 
> Regards,
> Kevin
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi kevin,
> > ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> > a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> > minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> > package....
> > bakis.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> > > 
> > > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > =====
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> > athens-greece
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That's why we better vote about it when all versions are up and Doepfer can
make one. I'd rather have a Doepfer than my own cause mine will look like
something a cat dragged in ;)


----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe Buechler" <buechlerjoe@toadmail.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:54 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Sort of OT: Inverting Attenuator - New Cynthia
module

> I think Dieter had the right idea, putting a circuit for a
> mixer/offset on the new DIY page. An attenuator is an obvious DIY
> module. There's been so many different variations suggested that
> there's now way Doepfer could please everyone.
>
> Joe
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > Bakis,
> >
> > The point was an attenuator module, and not specifically not 8
> > attenuators.  That said, I see your point.
> >
> > As for your suggestion, I agree you can do a great dal with the A129
> > collection of modules, but at a cost.  The solution you outlined
> will
> > cost me over $325 (not even taking into account the G3 or G6 in
> which
> > to house the modules), and will take up 28HP. I think you'll agree
> > that it isn't exactly cost effective if one simply wants an
> > attenuator/offset or two.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > hi kevin,
> > > ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> > > a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> > > minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> > > package....
> > > bakis.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Kevin
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =====
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> > > athens-greece
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I must agree with Andreas here.  Anything I put together will look 
second rate compared to Doepfer modules.  This may not matter to 
everyone here, but I take my stuff to sessions, and my clients like 
a good look.

Regards,
Kevin

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> That's why we better vote about it when all versions are up and 
Doepfer can
> make one. I'd rather have a Doepfer than my own cause mine will 
look like
> something a cat dragged in ;)
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Joe Buechler" <buechlerjoe@t...>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:54 AM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: Sort of OT: Inverting Attenuator - New 
Cynthia
> module
> 
> 
> > I think Dieter had the right idea, putting a circuit for a
> > mixer/offset on the new DIY page. An attenuator is an obvious DIY
> > module. There's been so many different variations suggested that
> > there's now way Doepfer could please everyone.
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "code_pig" <code_pig@y...> 
wrote:
> > > Bakis,
> > >
> > > The point was an attenuator module, and not specifically not 8
> > > attenuators.  That said, I see your point.
> > >
> > > As for your suggestion, I agree you can do a great dal with 
the A129
> > > collection of modules, but at a cost.  The solution you 
outlined
> > will
> > > cost me over $325 (not even taking into account the G3 or G6 in
> > which
> > > to house the modules), and will take up 28HP. I think you'll 
agree
> > > that it isn't exactly cost effective if one simply wants an
> > > attenuator/offset or two.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > Kevin
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros
> > > <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > > > hi kevin,
> > > > ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> > > > a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> > > > minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> > > > package....
> > > > bakis.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- code_pig <code_pig@y...> wrote:
> > > > > This is a hint... mostly.  We need one as well.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.cyndustries.com/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > =====
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hello bakis,

yes but the a129/3 can't handle audio signals and
a dedicated offset module would.

or maybe we can modify an a129/3 and switch out the
slew limiter component? anybody who can check this?

best wishes

self oscillate



--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
<synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:

> hi kevin,
> ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> package....
> bakis.

hi self-osc,
ok,you're right...
bakis.


--- selfoscillate <synaptic_music@yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> hello bakis,
> 
> yes but the a129/3 can't handle audio signals and
> a dedicated offset module would.
> 
> or maybe we can modify an a129/3 and switch out the
> slew limiter component? anybody who can check this?
> 
> best wishes
> 
> self oscillate
> 
> 
> 
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, Bakis Sirros 
> <synth_freak_2000@y...> wrote:
> > hi kevin,
> > ok,but you can do this with an a129/3 and three
> > a175's!!!and you get 5 offset controls and 6
> > minimultiples and optional slew(a129/4)in the
> > package....
> > bakis.
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hi self oscillate,

> or maybe we can modify an a129/3 and switch out the
> slew limiter component? anybody who can check this?

I've had a quick look at this on a couple of occasions, and I think 
it is do-able - should just require disabling/replacing a couple of 
capacitors. I'll have a closer look again...

Tim

hello tim,

thank you very much.
i'm looking forward to your investigations ;-)
an a129/3 which can handle audio frequencies would
be fantastic for my purposes.

best wishes

self oscillate





--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe" <timothy@t...> 
wrote:

> Hi self oscillate,
> 
> > or maybe we can modify an a129/3 and switch out the
> > slew limiter component? anybody who can check this?
> 
> I've had a quick look at this on a couple of occasions, and I think 
> it is do-able - should just require disabling/replacing a couple of 
> capacitors. I'll have a closer look again...
> 
> Tim

Hi Self oscillate,

> i'm looking forward to your investigations ;-)

Well Dieter is clearly on the case now anyway, but it looks to me 
that it will actually require removing *2* capacitors for each 
section (as well as C1,3,5,7,9 as Dieter mentions, C2,4,6,8,10 need 
to go too: i.e. to modify the top section, remove C1 & C2, and 
similarly for the others, as required.) But I'm sure we'll see the 
full details when they update the DIY page!

Another simple one not in his list: adding three switches to A-127 to 
switch each filter section between low-pass and band-pass.

Tim

I think there should be a general-purpose voltmeter module instead. 
Come to think of it, that's another DIY module, isn't it?

Joe
--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
<andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and thinking about how 
good it
> would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it struck me that 
what I
> really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am doing.
> 
> So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in a simple LCD(or 
what
> ever suits best) that should show the voltage that the module either
> recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal Outs. Wouldn't 
that be
> great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters and also give us 
good
> control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would become expensive to 
make?
> Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me atleast. Check 
it out in
> the files section.
> 
> I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is more what it is 
 I think

> ;)
> 
> this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> 
> /Andreas

I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and thinking about how good it
would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it struck me that what I
really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am doing.

So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in a simple LCD(or what
ever suits best) that should show the voltage that the module either
recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal Outs. Wouldn't that be
great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters and also give us good
control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would become expensive to make?
Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me atleast. Check it out in
the files section.

I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is more what it is  I think
;)

this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.

/Andreas

hi andreas,
a LCD or a LED display will be good,but it will
surrely add to the price,though...
bakis.


--- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com>
wrote:
> I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and
> thinking about how good it
> would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it
> struck me that what I
> really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am
> doing.
> 
> So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in
> a simple LCD(or what
> ever suits best) that should show the voltage that
> the module either
> recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal
> Outs. Wouldn't that be
> great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters
> and also give us good
> control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would
> become expensive to make?
> Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me
> atleast. Check it out in
> the files section.
> 
> I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is
> more what it is  I think
> ;)
> 
> this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> 
> /Andreas
> 
> 
> 


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I very much like the module Andreas put in the files section, but it 
still would be nice to have a simple dual attenuator/offset module.  
It'd be cheap to produce, and I know I'd get at least 4 of them.

As for the DIY section, I really like the DIY approach, and have 
built a wide variety of vodoo boxes.  The only problem is front 
panels.  They aren't cheap to have made professionally (and even 
then there are consistency issues), and when one makes their own 
they generally look frightening.

I know before even continuing that this probably won't fly, but...

Is there any chance that Doepfer would sell pre-punched (even 
printed maybe?) front panels, jack sockets, PCB mounted pots, and 
knobs?  That would allow any DIY'er to match a project's look and 
feel with their existing Doepfer modules?

Just a thought.

Regards,
Kevin


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
<buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> I think there should be a general-purpose voltmeter module 
instead. 
> Come to think of it, that's another DIY module, isn't it?
> 
> Joe
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and thinking about how 
> good it
> > would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it struck me 
that 
> what I
> > really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am doing.
> > 
> > So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in a simple LCD
(or 
> what
> > ever suits best) that should show the voltage that the module 
either
> > recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal Outs. 
Wouldn't 
> that be
> > great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters and also give 
us 
> good
> > control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would become expensive 
to 
> make?
> > Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me atleast. 
Check 
> it out in
> > the files section.
> > 
> > I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is more what it 
is 

>  I think
> > ;)
> > 
> > this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> > 
> > /Andreas

On 3/31/03 3:02 PM, "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Is there any chance that Doepfer would sell pre-punched (even
> printed maybe?) front panels, jack sockets, PCB mounted pots, and
> knobs?  That would allow any DIY'er to match a project's look and
> feel with their existing Doepfer modules?


YES! that would be excellent! if they don't I bet someone else soon will.
actually.... never mind the frames and PSU are so expensive it's probably
better to get a frac rack or the new Blacet one, and Blacet sells blank
panels punched. Especially since most things you make yourself would be a
tight fit in the doepfer format.

best,
phil

--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Tim Stinchcombe" <timothy@t...> 
wrote:
> Hi Self oscillate,
> 
> > i'm looking forward to your investigations ;-)
> 
> Well Dieter is clearly on the case now anyway, but it looks to me 
> that it will actually require removing *2* capacitors for each 
> section (as well as C1,3,5,7,9 as Dieter mentions, C2,4,6,8,10 need 
> to go too: i.e. to modify the top section, remove C1 & C2, and 
> similarly for the others, as required.) But I'm sure we'll see the 
> full details when they update the DIY page!
> 
> Another simple one not in his list: adding three switches to A-127 
to 
> switch each filter section between low-pass and band-pass.
> 
> Tim

hello tim,

thanks again :-)

oh and i have another suggestion for the diy page.
how about switches for all the modules with internal
jumpers, like a108 and a176.

best wishes

self oscillate

i use a simple voltmeter and it does the trick,
it is cheap and versatile. but it looks damn miserable ;-)

best wishes

self oscillate


--- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler" 
<buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> I think there should be a general-purpose voltmeter module instead. 
> Come to think of it, that's another DIY module, isn't it?
> 
> Joe
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm" 
> <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and thinking about how 
> good it
> > would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it struck me 
that 
> what I
> > really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am doing.
> > 
> > So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in a simple LCD
(or 
> what
> > ever suits best) that should show the voltage that the module 
either
> > recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal Outs. Wouldn't 
> that be
> > great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters and also give 
us 
> good
> > control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would become expensive 
to 
> make?
> > Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me atleast. 
Check 
> it out in
> > the files section.
> > 
> > I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is more what it 
is 

>  I think
> > ;)
> > 
> > this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> > 
> > /Andreas

I don't see why Doepfer shouldn't be able to sell pre drilled plates and
kits if they wanted to. They have all the components and all they have to do
is NOT mount them ;) That would be very useful.

/Andreas

----- Original Message -----
From: "p. hendricks" <ph@attbi.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 6:06 AM
Subject: Re: [Doepfer_a100] yes to Blank paneRe: The most advancedAttenuator
yet

> On 3/31/03 3:02 PM, "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Is there any chance that Doepfer would sell pre-punched (even
> > printed maybe?) front panels, jack sockets, PCB mounted pots, and
> > knobs?  That would allow any DIY'er to match a project's look and
> > feel with their existing Doepfer modules?
>
>
> YES! that would be excellent! if they don't I bet someone else soon will.
> actually.... never mind the frames and PSU are so expensive it's probably
> better to get a frac rack or the new Blacet one, and Blacet sells blank
> panels punched. Especially since most things you make yourself would be a
> tight fit in the doepfer format.
>
> best,
> phil
>
>
>
>
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I too think that a "simple" dual attenuator should be made too. I would like
to have one of my latest LCD control module and also one or two simple dual
attenuators to complement it. I suspekt that there is a group of people like
me and Kevin out there. The advanced single line module is the sort of
unique module that distinguises the Doepfer brand from the rest and a dual
attenuator is a bread and butter module like LFOs as I see it.

Unless anybody has features that isn't in any of the proposed sketches
perhaps Bakis could ask Doepfer to make sort a guess about prices for
suggested modules and we could have a vote with prices for each model and
see what i most desired. Can you do that Bakis?

/Andreas


----- Original Message -----

From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:02 AM
Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The most advanced Attenuator yet


> I very much like the module Andreas put in the files section, but it
> still would be nice to have a simple dual attenuator/offset module.
> It'd be cheap to produce, and I know I'd get at least 4 of them.
>
> As for the DIY section, I really like the DIY approach, and have
> built a wide variety of vodoo boxes.  The only problem is front
> panels.  They aren't cheap to have made professionally (and even
> then there are consistency issues), and when one makes their own
> they generally look frightening.
>
> I know before even continuing that this probably won't fly, but...
>
> Is there any chance that Doepfer would sell pre-punched (even
> printed maybe?) front panels, jack sockets, PCB mounted pots, and
> knobs?  That would allow any DIY'er to match a project's look and
> feel with their existing Doepfer modules?
>
> Just a thought.
>
> Regards,
> Kevin
>
>
> --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe Buechler"
> <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > I think there should be a general-purpose voltmeter module
> instead.
> > Come to think of it, that's another DIY module, isn't it?
> >
> > Joe
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas Lindholm"
> > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > > I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and thinking about how
> > good it
> > > would be to have a great attenuator and suddenly it struck me
> that
> > what I
> > > really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs what I am doing.
> > >
> > > So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and put in a simple LCD
> (or
> > what
> > > ever suits best) that should show the voltage that the module
> either
> > > recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the Signal Outs.
> Wouldn't
> > that be
> > > great? One module that would rid us of voltmeters and also give
> us
> > good
> > > control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would become expensive
> to
> > make?
> > > Hope not cause this would be a dream to have for me atleast.
> Check
> > it out in
> > > the files section.
> > >
> > > I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause that is more what it
> is
> >  I think
> > > ;)
> > >
> > > this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> > >
> > > /Andreas
>
>
>
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>

hi andreas,
message already forwarded to dieter...
bakis.



--- Andreas Lindholm <andreas.k.lindholm@telia.com>
wrote:
> I too think that a "simple" dual attenuator should
> be made too. I would like
> to have one of my latest LCD control module and also
> one or two simple dual
> attenuators to complement it. I suspekt that there
> is a group of people like
> me and Kevin out there. The advanced single line
> module is the sort of
> unique module that distinguises the Doepfer brand
> from the rest and a dual
> attenuator is a bread and butter module like LFOs as
> I see it.
> 
> Unless anybody has features that isn't in any of the
> proposed sketches
> perhaps Bakis could ask Doepfer to make sort a guess
> about prices for
> suggested modules and we could have a vote with
> prices for each model and
> see what i most desired. Can you do that Bakis?
> 
> /Andreas
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "code_pig" <code_pig@yahoo.com>
> To: <Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2003 1:02 AM
> Subject: [Doepfer_a100] Re: The most advanced
> Attenuator yet
> 
> 
> > I very much like the module Andreas put in the
> files section, but it
> > still would be nice to have a simple dual
> attenuator/offset module.
> > It'd be cheap to produce, and I know I'd get at
> least 4 of them.
> >
> > As for the DIY section, I really like the DIY
> approach, and have
> > built a wide variety of vodoo boxes.  The only
> problem is front
> > panels.  They aren't cheap to have made
> professionally (and even
> > then there are consistency issues), and when one
> makes their own
> > they generally look frightening.
> >
> > I know before even continuing that this probably
> won't fly, but...
> >
> > Is there any chance that Doepfer would sell
> pre-punched (even
> > printed maybe?) front panels, jack sockets, PCB
> mounted pots, and
> > knobs?  That would allow any DIY'er to match a
> project's look and
> > feel with their existing Doepfer modules?
> >
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Kevin
> >
> >
> > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Joe
> Buechler"
> > <buechlerjoe@t...> wrote:
> > > I think there should be a general-purpose
> voltmeter module
> > instead.
> > > Come to think of it, that's another DIY module,
> isn't it?
> > >
> > > Joe
> > > --- In Doepfer_a100@yahoogroups.com, "Andreas
> Lindholm"
> > > <andreas.k.lindholm@t...> wrote:
> > > > I was fiddling around with tuning my vcos and
> thinking about how
> > > good it
> > > > would be to have a great attenuator and
> suddenly it struck me
> > that
> > > what I
> > > > really want is an attenuator that DISPLAYs
> what I am doing.
> > > >
> > > > So I changed the attenuator sketch I had and
> put in a simple LCD
> > (or
> > > what
> > > > ever suits best) that should show the voltage
> that the module
> > either
> > > > recieves at the IN or the CV(in) or the the
> Signal Outs.
> > Wouldn't
> > > that be
> > > > great? One module that would rid us of
> voltmeters and also give
> > us
> > > good
> > > > control over or cv signals. Wonder if it would
> become expensive
> > to
> > > make?
> > > > Hope not cause this would be a dream to have
> for me atleast.
> > Check
> > > it out in
> > > > the files section.
> > > >
> > > > I also changed the name to VC-CONTROL cause
> that is more what it
> > is
> > >  I think
> > > > ;)
> > > >
> > > > this is the file called a137v2.gif in files.
> > > >
> > > > /Andreas
> >
> >
> >
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> 
> 
> 


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Hi Andreas 

> I don't see why Doepfer shouldn't be able to sell pre drilled plates and
> kits if they wanted to. They have all the components and all they have to do
> is NOT mount them ;) That would be very useful.
To my knowledge there are two reasons, why Doepfer stopped selling the
kits:
1.) Kits take a much higher effort in telefone support and repair than the
readymade products.
2.) In principle the manufacturer of the kit is responsible for the
problems, that are caused by the system a customer has built from the kit.
So I think, this is the killer argument against kits.

Florian

Hi

> To my knowledge there are two reasons, why Doepfer stopped selling the
> kits:[...]
Please ignore my posting, I overlooked the mail from Bakis, where he
forwarded Dopefers statement.

Florian