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Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by pjkeys1975

Hi guys, wonder if you could help....

Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.

If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.

Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).

Cheers in advance.

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by gordon@gjcp.net

On Fri, Aug 07, 2009 at 02:49:22PM -0000, pjkeys1975 wrote:
> Hi guys, wonder if you could help....
> 
> Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.
> 
> If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.
> 
> Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).
> 

The battery is more than likely on its way out, especially if it's never
been changed.  They typically only last about ten years.

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by jammie

sounds like battery going
----- Original Message -----
From: pjkeys1975
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:49 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Hi guys, wonder if you could help....

Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.

If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.

Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).

Cheers in advance.


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Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by pjkeys1975

Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

Cheers,

Pete

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> sounds like battery going
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: pjkeys1975 
>   To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:49 PM
>   Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
> 
> 
>     Hi guys, wonder if you could help....
> 
>   Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.
> 
>   If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.
> 
>   Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).
> 
>   Cheers in advance.
> 
> 
> 
>   
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by jammie

yes get a plastic holder from maplins in uk or mouser digi key in usa and a battery cr3202
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From: pjkeys1975
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> sounds like battery going
>; ----- Original Message -----
> From: pjkeys1975
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
>
>
> Hi guys, wonder if you could help....
>
> Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.
>
> If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.
>
> Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).
>
> Cheers in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by Rish

That is not the battery the VFXSD uses, it's not a coin battery sorry. Check out www.Route66studios.com they carry the factory battery Panasonic and the holder for the barrel battery.
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From: jammie
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

yes get a plastic holder from maplins in uk or mouser digi key in usa and a battery cr3202
----- Original Message -----
From: pjkeys1975
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 5:03 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> sounds like battery going
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pjkeys1975
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
>
>
> Hi guys, wonder if you could help....
>
> Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.
>
> If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.
>
> Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).
>
> Cheers in advance.
>
>
>;
>
>
>
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>
>
>
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-07 by Rish

Depends on your solder skills, you will have to remove the keybed and the Main board to replace the battery.
Richard
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----- Original Message -----
From: pjkeys1975
Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 11:03 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> sounds like battery going
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pjkeys1975
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Friday, August 07, 2009 3:49 PM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
>
>
> Hi guys, wonder if you could help....
>
> Once left off a while My VFX seems to re-initialize on power up (un-aided) voiding any new sounds created previously or loaded in via SysEx. It doesn't say it's doing so but all ROM sounds are back in the Internal memory & it's frustrating to say the least.
>
> If (for example) I edit a sound & save then power off...the newly edited program is still there on immediate power-up....however, on power-up the following day, ROM is back in Internal memory having wiped any new creations.
>
> Now...am I missing something glaringly obvious here or are these signs the battery's on it's way out? (No alarm messages been seen).
>
> Cheers in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>
>
> No virus found in this incoming message.
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Gordon JC Pearce

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:03 +0000, pjkeys1975 wrote:
> Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

If you open up the lid (four screws) you should see the battery on the
main board.  Ideally you'd desolder it carefully from the board but that
involves removing the keyboard and the PCB, so don't bother with that,
snip the leads and wire in a 2xAA battery holder instead.

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Rish

No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly with the proper parts, if your not sure about doing the solder job yourself find a good tech.
I have always had the best luck with the old TV repair guys, all they ever do is de-solder and re-solder board level parts.
Richard
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Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 16:03 +0000, pjkeys1975 wrote:
> Kinda what I thought...is it easily replaceable?

If you open up the lid (four screws) you should see the battery on the
main board. Ideally you'd desolder it carefully from the board but that
involves removing the keyboard and the PCB, so don't bother with that,
snip the leads and wire in a 2xAA battery holder instead.

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Gordon JC Pearce

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> 
> 
> No NO NO!   Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries!  (Gordon you
> should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where

I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea.  I do it as a matter
of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
(not just synthesizers).

Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
the mayhem they cause when they fail?

>  you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly

The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
years waiting to be sold!  There's no real point in fitting them.
Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
more-or-less what it comes down to.

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by pjkeys1975

Cheers chaps for all your advice.

Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations. 

I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.

It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.

Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.

One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.

Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.

My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@...> wrote:
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>
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > No NO NO!   Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries!  (Gordon you
> > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
> 
> I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea.  I do it as a matter
> of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
> (not just synthesizers).
> 
> Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
> the mayhem they cause when they fail?
> 
> >  you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
> 
> The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
> a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
> years waiting to be sold!  There's no real point in fitting them.
> Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
> memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
> more-or-less what it comes down to.
> 
> Gordon 2M0YEQ
>

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Gordon JC Pearce

On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 08:02 +0000, pjkeys1975 wrote:
> Cheers chaps for all your advice.
> 
> Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that
> it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations. 
> 
> I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find
> documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery
> doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most
> Ensoniq synths post the VFX.

Okay, my VFX had AAs fitted before I got it, but the space on the board
looks about right for a 2/3AA lithium.  I can only surmise that someone
has fitted a CR2032 in the past.

> It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd
> gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the
> battery that's on its way.

Sure it's not in a holder, like on old PC motherboards?

> Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd
> change these things in latter models.
> 
> One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely
> condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.
> 
> Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired
> in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in
> & doesn't show any signs of the problem.

Might be worth fixing that.  Maybe not though - it might be worth
something "L@@K RARE VFX WITH ORIGINAL KEYBOARD RIBBON" - eh, no don't
think so...

Gordon 2M0YEQ

Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by jammie

as long as you use the right voltage any baterry will do and gordon is right i always change my batteries with holders and the latest equivalant battery
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Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
>
>
> No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
> should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where

I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
(not just synthesizers).

Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
the mayhem they cause when they fail?

> you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly

The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
more-or-less what it comes down to.

Gordon 2M0YEQ


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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by jammie

if its the cr2032 just unsolder and fit a cr2032 plastic holder and a lithium cr2032 coin battery thats what i fit to all the synths from ensoniq for my cutomers ive fitted hundreds and they can change it themselfs in future they are the standard fitting for the sq1/sq2/+/ks88/sqr+/ts10/ts12/vfx
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----- Original Message -----
From: pjkeys1975
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:02 AM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Cheers chaps for all your advice.

Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations.

I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.

It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.

Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.

One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.

Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.

My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> >
> >
> > No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
> > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
>
> I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
> of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
> (not just synthesizers).
>
> Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
> the mayhem they cause when they fail?
>
> >; you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
>
> The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
> a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
> years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
> Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
> memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
> more-or-less what it comes down to.
>
> Gordon 2M0YEQ
>


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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by jammie

the ribbon problem was mostly with the first revision of vfx and the eps 13bit sampler in later models the in house ensoniq hard wired them
most of the problems happened when moving the synth buy 1 person the the synth would flex in the middle and would break contacts
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Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

On Sat, 2009-08-08 at 08:02 +0000, pjkeys1975 wrote:
> Cheers chaps for all your advice.
>
> Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that
> it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations.
>
> I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find
> documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery
> doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most
> Ensoniq synths post the VFX.

Okay, my VFX had AAs fitted before I got it, but the space on the board
looks about right for a 2/3AA lithium. I can only surmise that someone
has fitted a CR2032 in the past.

> It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd
> gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the
> battery that's on its way.

Sure it's not in a holder, like on old PC motherboards?

> Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd
> change these things in latter models.
>
> One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely
> condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.
>
> Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired
> in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in
> & doesn't show any signs of the problem.

Might be worth fixing that. Maybe not though - it might be worth
something "L@@K RARE VFX WITH ORIGINAL KEYBOARD RIBBON" - eh, no don't
think so...

Gordon 2M0YEQ


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Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by somethingkillingyou

what about the SD-1 (mine is the 32 voices version)?!

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" <jammie.emma@...> wrote:
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>
> if its the cr2032 just unsolder and fit a cr2032 plastic holder and a lithium cr2032 coin battery thats what i fit to all the synths from ensoniq for my cutomers ive fitted hundreds and they can change it themselfs in future they are the standard fitting for the sq1/sq2/+/ks88/sqr+/ts10/ts12/vfx
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: pjkeys1975 
>   To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:02 AM
>   Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
> 
> 
>     Cheers chaps for all your advice.
> 
>   Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations. 
> 
>   I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.
> 
>   It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.
> 
>   Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.
> 
>   One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.
> 
>   Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.
> 
>   My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.
> 
>   Cheers,
> 
>   Pete
> 
>   --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce <gordon@> wrote:
>   >
>   > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
>   > > 
>   > > 
>   > > No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
>   > > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
>   > 
>   > I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
>   > of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
>   > (not just synthesizers).
>   > 
>   > Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
>   > the mayhem they cause when they fail?
>   > 
>   > > you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
>   > > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
>   > 
>   > The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
>   > a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
>   > years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
>   > Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
>   > memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
>   > more-or-less what it comes down to.
>   > 
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by jammie

check to see what batery you have if its a disc type with 2 prongs then its changable with a cr2032 if its the barrel type change it for a aa holder and use lithium batts
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Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

what about the SD-1 (mine is the 32 voices version)?!

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> if its the cr2032 just unsolder and fit a cr2032 plastic holder and a lithium cr2032 coin battery thats what i fit to all the synths from ensoniq for my cutomers ive fitted hundreds and they can change it themselfs in future they are the standard fitting for the sq1/sq2/+/ks88/sqr+/ts10/ts12/vfx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pjkeys1975
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:02 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
>
>
> Cheers chaps for all your advice.
>
> Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations.
>
> I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.
>
> It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.
>
> Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.
>
> One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.
>
> Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.
>
> My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
> > > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
> >
> > I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
> > of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
>; > (not just synthesizers).
> >
> > Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
> > the mayhem they cause when they fail?
> >
> > >; you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> > > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
> >
> > The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
> > a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
> > years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
> > Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
>; > memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
> > more-or-less what it comes down to.
> >
> > Gordon 2M0YEQ
> >
>
>
>
>
>;
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Rich Horton

I changed out the lithium soldered-in batt in my SD1 to a CR2032 about 8 yrs ago, works fine, found the holder at Radio Shack for a few bucks, and a snap to change (tho its still going strong, and the keyboard is used at least several hours a week).
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From: jammie
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 10:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

check to see what batery you have if its a disc type with 2 prongs then its changable with a cr2032 if its the barrel type change it for a aa holder and use lithium batts
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 4:38 PM
Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

what about the SD-1 (mine is the 32 voices version)?!

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, "jammie" ...> wrote:
>
> if its the cr2032 just unsolder and fit a cr2032 plastic holder and a lithium cr2032 coin battery thats what i fit to all the synths from ensoniq for my cutomers ive fitted hundreds and they can change it themselfs in future they are the standard fitting for the sq1/sq2/+/ks88/sqr+/ts10/ts12/vfx
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: pjkeys1975
> To: Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Saturday, August 08, 2009 9:02 AM
> Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??
>
>
> Cheers chaps for all your advice.
>
> Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations.
>
> I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.
>
> It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.
>
> Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.
>
> One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.
>
> Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.
>
> My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pete
>
> --- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce > >
> > On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
> > > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
> >
> > I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
> > of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
> > (not just synthesizers).
> >
> > Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
> > the mayhem they cause when they fail?
> >
> > > you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> > > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
> >
> > The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
> > a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
> > years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
> > Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
> > memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
> > more-or-less what it comes down to.
> >
> > Gordon 2M0YEQ
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

2009-08-08 by Rish

Yes the VFX need a standard cr2032 and I do also have the holders for these batteries as well.
If you purchase a crappy battery your going to get a short life out of it, I would not recommend using anything but Panasonic. These are 10 yr lithium's not the crap Gordon is buying from the battery kiosk at Kmart, I will send you one for free just Email me direct. I have yet to see even one of these batteries die in any of our gear at our shop here, and I have never in all the years providing batteries seen a new one leak.
Richard
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Subject: [Ensoniq-VFX-SD] Re: Power-up re-initializes wiping stored sounds??

Cheers chaps for all your advice.

Before you go & tear each others heads off, I'd just like to add that it is an original model VFX, not the SD variations.

I opened her up last night & discovered (as I managed to find documented elsewhere also) that there is a standard CR2032 battery doing the job. I think the lithium batteries were installed in most Ensoniq synths post the VFX.

It's a solder job by the looks of things. I'm starting to get the odd gobbledegook patch name also so I can only assume it is in fact the battery that's on its way.

Cheers though for all your help. I do however find it odd that they'd change these things in latter models.

One point of note...I picked this up a year ago on ebay. Lovely condition & has served me well for the duration. 1989 model & all.

Now with all the talk about calibration issues/ribbon cable/hardwired in etc....I'd like to note that mine still has it's original Ribbon in & doesn't show any signs of the problem.

My TS-10 on the other hand...now that's a headache.

Cheers,

Pete

--- In Ensoniq-VFX-SD@yahoogroups.com, Gordon JC Pearce wrote:
>
> On Fri, 2009-08-07 at 20:36 -0500, Rish wrote:
> >
> >
> > No NO NO! Do not half ass wire in any AA batteries! (Gordon you
> > should know better) that is really bad advise. I do not care where
>
> I'd like to know why you think that's a bad idea. I do it as a matter
> of course on all my equipment that's of an age to have lithium batteries
> (not just synthesizers).
>
> Of course, I replace soldered-in nicads right away too - have you seen
> the mayhem they cause when they fail?
>
> > you get the battery but replace it with the correct Panasonic 2/3a
> > lithium yellow label or blue label. Take the time to do it correctly
>
> The lithium batteries you get now are incredibly expensive and only last
> a couple of years - quite often because they've been lying around for
> years waiting to be sold! There's no real point in fitting them.
> Long-life alkalines have a far better shelf life and since the CMOS
> memory takes something in the realms of nanoamps, shelf life is
> more-or-less what it comes down to.
>
> Gordon 2M0YEQ
>

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