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RE: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Peter Connelly (Core Design Ltd.)

There's a fairly long thread on Greg Holmes webpage that might answer your original question:
Cheers,
Peter
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From: Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski [mailto:rambo@id.uw.edu.pl]
Sent: 21 July 2004 11:04
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Subject: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 10:34:23 +0100
"Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" wrote:

> Also the Pet Shop Boys' "Actually" album contains a LOT of Series III

Well, actually that's my problem, most of sounds from that album
(especially that "stringy" pads I first thought to be Fairlight, were in
fact coming from something else (like JD-800 on "Very", which is next to
buy on my list- a rediscovered love: the synth, not the PSP album). :)

Well, "It's a sin" is a good example of what I mean by "choir", but I need
a warm juicy string section, no aliasing noise pure orgy ;-). But, hay,
treat it like something of "try before you buy" thing ;-).

It's really hard to find a "solo" play with CMI sIII.

Rambo


Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski

On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:09:06 +0100
"Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" <PeterC@Core-Design.com> wrote:

> There's a fairly long thread on Greg Holmes webpage that might answer
> your original question:
>  
> http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fboard/00001013.htm

Yup, heard them all- still unsatisfied :)

OK, so maybe I form this that way: If anyone, who actually has
an sIII, and heard Vangelis' "Dream in an Open Space" (Voices), can
tell me, if strings section sound one could hear there is a series III,
because that's what actually I want to achieve.

Rambo

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Chris Haworth

With reference to Peter's note, the PSB album 'Actually' does in fact
contain a lot of SIII sounds. If it is strings you're after, the track 'It
couldn't happen here' is entirely constructed from SIII string samples,
which apparently took several passes on the multi-track - (the source of
this is from an interview with the band).

On the subject of the quality of the string samples, I think that the
Fairlight III is still up there with the best of them. I also have an Akai
Z4, a Roland S760 and the entire Emulator III library (for the Z4) sitting
alongside my Series III and it has to be said that the depth and
expressiveness of the Fairlight samples is far better than the string
samples for these other machines. IMHO, only the Roland comes close.

Chris.



                                                                           
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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:09:06 +0100
"Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" <PeterC@Core-Design.com> wrote:

> There's a fairly long thread on Greg Holmes webpage that might answer
> your original question:
>
> http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fboard/00001013.htm

Yup, heard them all- still unsatisfied :)

OK, so maybe I form this that way: If anyone, who actually has
an sIII, and heard Vangelis' "Dream in an Open Space" (Voices), can
tell me, if strings section sound one could hear there is a series III,
because that's what actually I want to achieve.

Rambo
                                                                            
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Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Laurent Lemaire

Hi,

I didn't know that Vangelis was using Fairlight Instruments...
I don't understand what you're looking for ? Do you have a
Series II and are looking for a specific sound file ? Are
you looking for sound samples ?

See you.

    Laurent.
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> OK, so maybe I form this that way: If anyone, who actually has
> an sIII, and heard Vangelis' "Dream in an Open Space" (Voices), can
> tell me, if strings section sound one could hear there is a series III,
> because that's what actually I want to achieve.

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Marcin 'Rambo' Roguski

> I didn't know that Vangelis was using Fairlight Instruments...
> I don't understand what you're looking for ? Do you have a
> Series II and are looking for a specific sound file ? Are
> you looking for sound samples ?

Uhmmm... this is getting complicated: as I stated in one of my
previous posts: I want to buy an sIII, but... now I want to 
verify why :))))))))

OK, so it has excellent choirs, that I know, also it has 
excellent cello and bagpipes samples- that I also know (I 
have them).

Concluding: I just do not want to end up with sour smile
"OK, so you got yourself a Fairlight, now what?". I guess
you could understand, wanting something for 1/3 of your life
you wouldn't like to end up with something with doesn't
live up to your dreams, would you?

I'm after sIII just because of overwhelming, powerful strings
sound I once heard, and believed it was Fairlight: and it 
sounded very similar to that in Vangelis tracks (a little less

Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Chris Haworth

Vangelis has used many instruments for string sounds, including live string
sections, so be careful here - they don't all come from one instrument.
What you should also appreciate is that he has exceptional engineering
skills as well as being a skilled musician and is therefore able to make
sounds appear as he wants them. This is why several of his tracks have
beautiful strings in the background (Chariots of Fire, Theme from Missing)
which are in fact from a Roland VP-330 string synth / vocoder.

And this is a point that you should be aware of when looking to buy a
Series III and matching it against your expectations. Wherever a SIII was
used on a record, the chances are that it want through many thousands of
pounds of outboard (SSL desks, Lexicon reverbs etc) all being operated by
skilled engineers and producers to achieve the final 'sound'. Hence the
sound of the raw instrument will more often than not seem 'different' (read
duller) to how it sounds on record.

Chris.
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> I didn't know that Vangelis was using Fairlight Instruments...
> I don't understand what you're looking for ? Do you have a
> Series II and are looking for a specific sound file ? Are
> you looking for sound samples ?

Uhmmm... this is getting complicated: as I stated in one of my
previous posts: I want to buy an sIII, but... now I want to
verify why :))))))))

OK, so it has excellent choirs, that I know, also it has
excellent cello and bagpipes samples- that I also know (I
have them).

Concluding: I just do not want to end up with sour smile
"OK, so you got yourself a Fairlight, now what?". I guess
you could understand, wanting something for 1/3 of your life
you wouldn't like to end up with something with doesn't
live up to your dreams, would you?

I'm after sIII just because of overwhelming, powerful strings
sound I once heard, and believed it was Fairlight: and it
sounded very similar to that in Vangelis tracks (a little less
                                                                            
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SV: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Klaus Poulsen

Hi Chris
 
Please don't attach pictures to your mails, unless they have something
to do with Fairlights or other things of interest for the members at
this site.
 
Sincerely
 
Klaus Poulsen
 
-----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
Fra: Chris Haworth [mailto:christopher.haworth@uk.ibm.com] 
Sendt: 21. juli 2004 12:45
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Emne: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III
 




With reference to Peter's note, the PSB album 'Actually' does in fact
contain a lot of SIII sounds. If it is strings you're after, the track
'It
couldn't happen here' is entirely constructed from SIII string samples,
which apparently took several passes on the multi-track - (the source of
this is from an interview with the band).

On the subject of the quality of the string samples, I think that the
Fairlight III is still up there with the best of them. I also have an
Akai
Z4, a Roland S760 and the entire Emulator III library (for the Z4)
sitting
alongside my Series III and it has to be said that the depth and
expressiveness of the Fairlight samples is far better than the string
samples for these other machines. IMHO, only the Roland comes close.

Chris.



 

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On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:09:06 +0100
"Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" <PeterC@Core-Design.com> wrote:

> There's a fairly long thread on Greg Holmes webpage that might answer
> your original question:
>
> http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fboard/00001013.htm

Yup, heard them all- still unsatisfied :)

OK, so maybe I form this that way: If anyone, who actually has
an sIII, and heard Vangelis' "Dream in an Open Space" (Voices), can
tell me, if strings section sound one could hear there is a series III,
because that's what actually I want to achieve.

Rambo
 

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Re: SV: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III

2004-07-21 by Chris Haworth

Hi Klaus,

This is interesting. I simply forwarded the mail that I received, hence the
attachment with it. Do you not recieve this (very annoying) advertising
from Yahoo with the mails you receive from the forum?

Regards,
Chris.
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Hi Chris





Please don’t attach pictures to your mails, unless they have something to
do with Fairlights or other things of interest for the members at this
site.





Sincerely





Klaus Poulsen





           -----Oprindelig meddelelse-----
           Fra: Chris Haworth [mailto:christopher.haworth@uk.ibm.com]
           Sendt: 21. juli 2004 12:45
           Til: Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
           Emne: Re: [Fairlight-CMI] Hearing Series III









           With reference to Peter's note, the PSB album 'Actually' does in
           fact
           contain a lot of SIII sounds. If it is strings you're after, the
           track 'It
           couldn't happen here' is entirely constructed from SIII string
           samples,
           which apparently took several passes on the multi-track - (the
           source of
           this is from an interview with the band).

           On the subject of the quality of the string samples, I think
           that the
           Fairlight III is still up there with the best of them. I also
           have an Akai
           Z4, a Roland S760 and the entire Emulator III library (for the
           Z4) sitting
           alongside my Series III and it has to be said that the depth and
           expressiveness of the Fairlight samples is far better than the
           string
           samples for these other machines. IMHO, only the Roland comes
           close.

           Chris.




                        "Marcin 'Rambo'

                        Roguski"

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           Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com
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           Hearing Series
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           On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 11:09:06 +0100
           "Peter Connelly \(Core Design Ltd.\)" <PeterC@Core-Design.com>
           wrote:

           > There's a fairly long thread on Greg Holmes webpage that might
           answer
           > your original question:
           >
           > http://www.ghservices.com/gregh/fboard/00001013.htm

           Yup, heard them all- still unsatisfied :)

           OK, so maybe I form this that way: If anyone, who actually has
           an sIII, and heard Vangelis' "Dream in an Open Space" (Voices),
           can
           tell me, if strings section sound one could hear there is a
           series III,
           because that's what actually I want to achieve.

           Rambo

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