Fairlight-CMI

Hi,

it's good idee for CMI III  9.34 and more...

http://www.scsi2ide.com/

JB

Bonjour Jean-Bernard,

 Merci bien ! There is no reason why you couldn't use 2.5" IDE notebook
drives now with a Fairlight CMI rev9.34 - 11+ instruments. The 2.5" IDE -
SCSI 2 adaptor looks really good. The connectors inside the CMI use 50 pin,
so this should connect without any problem. The thought of 2 - 4 light
weight 2.5" drives is quite appealing !
 Of course, there is still the 4 gigabyte limitation of the CMI software. In
fact, I think it formats to 4095 megabytes maximum storage. So on a typical
50 - 60 gig notebook drive you are missing out on 46 - 56 meg !!!
 Maybe Klause-Michel can find a way to move beyond the 4095 meg formatting
limit ? :-)

Regards,


James Thomson

Magic Audio Co.
The Studio
West Hampstead
London NW2 3RJ
U.K.

On 31/10/04 8:54 am, "Jean-Bernard EMOND" <jbemond@free.fr> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> it's good idee for CMI III  9.34 and more...
> 
> http://www.scsi2ide.com/
> 
> JB

H Guys,

I was thinking that you could use the quiet 4200 rpm 2.5" drives with the
CMI. Now these drives with a WFM-32 RAM card and maybe I would only need
three fans running !

Regards,


James Thomson

Magic Audio Co.
The Studio
West Hampstead
London NW2 3RJ
U.K.

On 31/10/04 8:54 am, "Jean-Bernard EMOND" <jbemond@free.fr> wrote:

> 
> Hi,
> 
> it's good idee for CMI III  9.34 and more...
> 
> http://www.scsi2ide.com/
> 
> JB
> 
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> Yahoo! Groups Links
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I successfully used a compact flash memory card with my rev9 CMI 
using a SCSI to IDE 
converter plugged into one of these 
http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?
Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm. Very 
quiet :-). I could then take the CF card and plug it into my PC via 
a USB CF reader and extract files with CMI Explorer.

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson 
<jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
> H Guys,
> 
> I was thinking that you could use the quiet 4200 rpm 2.5" drives 
with the
> CMI. Now these drives with a WFM-32 RAM card and maybe I would 
only need

> three fans running !
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> James Thomson
> 
> Magic Audio Co.
> The Studio
> West Hampstead
> London NW2 3RJ
> U.K.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/10/04 8:54 am, "Jean-Bernard EMOND" <jbemond@f...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > it's good idee for CMI III  9.34 and more...
> > 
> > http://www.scsi2ide.com/
> > 
> > JB
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > 
> > 
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> >

Hi Rob,

 Good to hear from you. Have you actually managed to boot your CMI from the
compact flash card ? How fast does the CMI seem to run ? Is it noticably
slower when changing pages etc while operating from Compact Flash ? Which
SCSI >> IDE convertor do you use ? It would be nice if you could share some
more info about this. Have you tried a 2.5" hard drive at all ?
 This sounds like a great way to browse sound libraries on the PC as well as
share sounds with others. Thanks.

Regards,


James Thomson

Magic Audio Co.
The Studio
West Hampstead
London NW2 3RJ
U.K.

On 31/10/04 11:46 pm, "titojay02" <robncait@msn.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> I successfully used a compact flash memory card with my rev9 CMI
> using a SCSI to IDE
> converter plugged into one of these
> http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?
> Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm. Very
> quiet :-). I could then take the CF card and plug it into my PC via
> a USB CF reader and extract files with CMI Explorer.

now that would be fun, running my 9.34 III from a CF card !!
very interesting thread.

David




--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson
<jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
>  Good to hear from you. Have you actually managed to boot your CMI
from the
> compact flash card ? How fast does the CMI seem to run ? Is it noticably
> slower when changing pages etc while operating from Compact Flash ?
Which
> SCSI >> IDE convertor do you use ? It would be nice if you could
share some
> more info about this. Have you tried a 2.5" hard drive at all ?
>  This sounds like a great way to browse sound libraries on the PC as
well as

> share sounds with others. Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> James Thomson
> 
> Magic Audio Co.
> The Studio
> West Hampstead
> London NW2 3RJ
> U.K.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 31/10/04 11:46 pm, "titojay02" <robncait@m...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I successfully used a compact flash memory card with my rev9 CMI
> > using a SCSI to IDE
> > converter plugged into one of these
> > http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?
> > Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm. Very
> > quiet :-). I could then take the CF card and plug it into my PC via
> > a USB CF reader and extract files with CMI Explorer.

Hi James,

I haven't tried booting from the card since I'm rather averse to 
opening up the mainframe unless it absolutely needs it :-). 
I'd bet the speed of the CF card makes a difference; I just tried a 
plain Lexar 32MB and the speed was OK, about what I'd expect from an 
older SCSI drive. Maybe one of the newer 40x or faster CF cards 
would give better results though. I haven't tried a 2.5" hard drive, 
but that's a good idea - there's no reason it wouldn't work.

The SCSI to IDE adapter I used was this one: 
http://www.memorylabs.net/acaecscsitbr.html

The only downside to that adapter is it doesn't support ATAPI, 
meaning the CF card would not be a removable device. Thus to remove 
the card in order to put it in a PC you'd have to shut down the 
Fairlight (assuming it's a bad idea to shut down devices in the SCSI 
chain while the computer is running).

Cheers,
Rob

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, James Thomson 
<jamesthomson@m...> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
> 
>  Good to hear from you. Have you actually managed to boot your CMI 
from the
> compact flash card ? How fast does the CMI seem to run ? Is it 
noticably
> slower when changing pages etc while operating from Compact 
Flash ? Which
> SCSI >> IDE convertor do you use ? It would be nice if you could 
share some
> more info about this. Have you tried a 2.5" hard drive at all ?
>  This sounds like a great way to browse sound libraries on the PC 
as well as
> share sounds with others. Thanks.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> 
> James Thomson
> 
> Magic Audio Co.
> The Studio
> West Hampstead
> London NW2 3RJ
> U.K.
> 
>  
> 
> On 31/10/04 11:46 pm, "titojay02" <robncait@m...> wrote:
> 
> > 
> > 
> > I successfully used a compact flash memory card with my rev9 CMI
> > using a SCSI to IDE
> > converter plugged into one of these
> > http://www.acscontrol.com/Index_ACS.asp?
> > Page=/Pages/Products/CompactFlash/IDE_To_CF_Adapter.htm. Very
> > quiet :-). I could then take the CF card and plug it into my PC 
via
> > a USB CF reader and extract files with CMI Explorer.

Hi Rob,

Good to hear from you. I would be very interested to see if you can boot
from the Compact Flash card. I see that they make 4 gig compact flash cards
now. Would you mind emailing me the latest version of CMI explorer ? I am
buying Virtual PC today for the Mac and would like to try and get it working
on my Apple G3 Powerbook. I also want to try the CMI control software which
replaces the Preh keyboard and graphics pen. Have you tried CMI control
software yet ?
 I still haven't made it to the West Coast but I am hoping to be in
Victoria,B.C in February. I hope all is well !

Regards,


James Thomson

Magic Audio Co.
The Studio
West Hampstead
London NW2 3RJ
U.K.

On 2/11/04 7:07 am, "titojay02" <robncait@msn.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> Hi James,
> 
> I haven't tried booting from the card since I'm rather averse to
> opening up the mainframe unless it absolutely needs it :-).
> I'd bet the speed of the CF card makes a difference; I just tried a
> plain Lexar 32MB and the speed was OK, about what I'd expect from an
> older SCSI drive. Maybe one of the newer 40x or faster CF cards
> would give better results though. I haven't tried a 2.5" hard drive,
> but that's a good idea - there's no reason it wouldn't work.
> 
> The SCSI to IDE adapter I used was this one:
> http://www.memorylabs.net/acaecscsitbr.html
> 
> The only downside to that adapter is it doesn't support ATAPI,
> meaning the CF card would not be a removable device. Thus to remove
> the card in order to put it in a PC you'd have to shut down the
> Fairlight (assuming it's a bad idea to shut down devices in the SCSI
> chain while the computer is running).