Fairlight-CMI

Ok,

You can stop laughing.  But I have read on the internet that some feel 
that out of all the vintage samplers from the 80's, the ensoniq mirage 
nails the fairlight II 8 bit sounds the best.

I KNOW it is not a fairlight with all the other bells and whistles, 
additive sythesis, sequencer, etc.

I'm speaking cheifly of the sound of samples.

Has anyone both to compare?

Micah

I personally own 2 IIx's and a mirage among many
other samplers. Although the mirage does not sound
just like the fairlight it sounds a hell of a lot more
realistic than sampling the IIx into a 16 bit sampler.
How that is, I do not know. The original fairlight
samples have bad loop points and only one sample point
that is transposed all of the way up and down the
keyboard. The mirage with a little filter manipulation
sounds pretty damn close to the fairlight in a blind
A/B and on a recording I cannot tell the difference. I
believe that it has to do with the 8 bit sample
resolution because on my Emulator I it sounds pretty
close as well. 
 Just my 2 cents.

Kevin Kelley 
Audio Playground
www.keyboardmuseum.org

--- yazzofever <yazzofever@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Ok,
> 
> You can stop laughing.  But I have read on the
> internet that some feel 
> that out of all the vintage samplers from the 80's,
> the ensoniq mirage 
> nails the fairlight II 8 bit sounds the best.
> 
> I KNOW it is not a fairlight with all the other
> bells and whistles, 
> additive sythesis, sequencer, etc.
> 
> I'm speaking cheifly of the sound of samples.
> 
> Has anyone both to compare?
> 
> Micah
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Kelly,

I respect your opinion.  If I was to buy the Pro-Rec soundset CD and 
then sample it with my Mirage-I feel that I would have poor quality 
compared to just leaving the Fairlight samples as 16 bit versions.  
The samples on the fairlight were sampled obviously from something, 
and thus lost sound quality.  If I was to sample the Fairlight sounds 
with the Mirage I would again loose more sound quality...right?

How can they be close then?

Thanks,
Micah

--- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, kevin kelley <xirin6@...> wrote:

>
>  I personally own 2 IIx's and a mirage among many
> other samplers. Although the mirage does not sound
> just like the fairlight it sounds a hell of a lot more
> realistic than sampling the IIx into a 16 bit sampler.
> How that is, I do not know. The original fairlight
> samples have bad loop points and only one sample point
> that is transposed all of the way up and down the
> keyboard. The mirage with a little filter manipulation
> sounds pretty damn close to the fairlight in a blind
> A/B and on a recording I cannot tell the difference. I
> believe that it has to do with the 8 bit sample
> resolution because on my Emulator I it sounds pretty
> close as well. 
>  Just my 2 cents.
> 
> Kevin Kelley 
> Audio Playground
> www.keyboardmuseum.org
> 
> --- yazzofever <yazzofever@...> wrote:
> 
> > Ok,
> > 
> > You can stop laughing.  But I have read on the
> > internet that some feel 
> > that out of all the vintage samplers from the 80's,
> > the ensoniq mirage 
> > nails the fairlight II 8 bit sounds the best.
> > 
> > I KNOW it is not a fairlight with all the other
> > bells and whistles, 
> > additive sythesis, sequencer, etc.
> > 
> > I'm speaking cheifly of the sound of samples.
> > 
> > Has anyone both to compare?
> > 
> > Micah
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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8-bit DAC with true analog filter. 
"Dont know why it just sounds better" 
Kevin Kelley 

--- yazzofever <yazzofever@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Kelly,
> 
> I respect your opinion.  If I was to buy the Pro-Rec
> soundset CD and 
> then sample it with my Mirage-I feel that I would
> have poor quality 
> compared to just leaving the Fairlight samples as 16
> bit versions.  
> The samples on the fairlight were sampled obviously
> from something, 
> and thus lost sound quality.  If I was to sample the
> Fairlight sounds 
> with the Mirage I would again loose more sound
> quality...right?
> 
> How can they be close then?
> 
> Thanks,
> Micah
> 
> --- In Fairlight-CMI@yahoogroups.com, kevin kelley
> <xirin6@...> wrote:
> >
> >  I personally own 2 IIx's and a mirage among many
> > other samplers. Although the mirage does not sound
> > just like the fairlight it sounds a hell of a lot
> more
> > realistic than sampling the IIx into a 16 bit
> sampler.
> > How that is, I do not know. The original fairlight
> > samples have bad loop points and only one sample
> point
> > that is transposed all of the way up and down the
> > keyboard. The mirage with a little filter
> manipulation
> > sounds pretty damn close to the fairlight in a
> blind
> > A/B and on a recording I cannot tell the
> difference. I
> > believe that it has to do with the 8 bit sample
> > resolution because on my Emulator I it sounds
> pretty
> > close as well. 
> >  Just my 2 cents.
> > 
> > Kevin Kelley 
> > Audio Playground
> > www.keyboardmuseum.org
> > 
> > --- yazzofever <yazzofever@...> wrote:
> > 
> > > Ok,
> > > 
> > > You can stop laughing.  But I have read on the
> > > internet that some feel 
> > > that out of all the vintage samplers from the
> 80's,
> > > the ensoniq mirage 
> > > nails the fairlight II 8 bit sounds the best.
> > > 
> > > I KNOW it is not a fairlight with all the other
> > > bells and whistles, 
> > > additive sythesis, sequencer, etc.
> > > 
> > > I'm speaking cheifly of the sound of samples.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone both to compare?
> > > 
> > > Micah
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
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> 
> 
> 
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