6;8 k should be OK The best way is to put a trim resistor so that you can adjust easily the value. A friend of mine bought exactly the same GBC as mine, and his resistor value wasn't the same as mine for the same temperature ! You should always check the temperature and stop the laminator if it climbs aboce 195\ufffd C The epoxy walls are really perfect, they don't deform at all. Furthermore the little "cut" across the wall acts as a spring and allow deformation when the PCB is to thick I have already milled 3 laminators. Two are working like a charm and I have no news of the third one (should be OK too !) JP Le 19/09/2010 23:16, Gokhan Nalbant a \ufffdcrit : > Well, if the laminator can stand that high temperature I prefer this method, > since my HP toner needs 170\ufffdC, I suppose. Using thick epoxy gives enough > headache to the laminator, so decreasing the number of passes can be a > better way. I don't have any resistor around 7K, the nearest one is 6K8 1/4w > metal film %1 tolerance. Would it be too low? > > Regards. > > GN > > 2010/9/19 freedom2000<freedom2000@...> > >> >> Hi, >> >> 150+C is definitvely not enough >> >> I have climbed up to 190\ufffdC (peak) >> >> You shoud increase your resistor a bit (7 K ohm) >> >> JP >> >> Le 19/09/2010 20:50, Gokhan Nalbant a \ufffdcrit : >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I have GBC H65 laminator, I modified it according to the instructions as >>> stated below link. >>> >> http://www.databrite.co.uk/parts/shop.php/modifying-a-gbc-laminator/i_11.html >>> I replaced the R1 with a 8K2 metal film resistor and as it states the >>> temperature should be around 150\ufffdC and that should be sufficient for >> proper >>> toner transfer. I am using 1.5mm/0.06" epoxy cards, they are thick for >> that >>> laminator but a little help just meoves them in to the laminator. >>> >>> My printer is HP P1005 and although I used several transfer papers >> including >>> the one from Pulsar, I could not succeed transfering the toner. I was >>> successful using an iron, it seems that 150\ufffdC is not enough to heat the >> HP >>> toner. >>> >>> Should I lower the value of the resistor for a higher degree or use >> another >>> printer, such as I have also Xerox 3117? >>> >>> >>> GN >>> >>> < >> http://www.databrite.co.uk/parts/shop.php/modifying-a-gbc-laminator/i_11.html >>> >>> 2010/9/19 RDHeiliger<rdheiliger@...<rdheiliger%40msn.com>> >>> >>>> I have had two of the GBC personal type laminators. They work fine for >>>> lower temperature toners. After my old Minolta printer with low >> temperature >>>> toner died, I bought an HP 1006. The temperature of the toner is much >>>> higher. I added an external temperature control to the laminator to get >> the >>>> toner to transfer. The resulting problem was that so much heat is >>>> transferred out thru the rollers that the plastic side frames melted. >> The >>>> roller bearings melted a slot in the side frames. I don't recommend this >>>> laminator. >>>> >>>> I have since bought a laminator with a metal frame. AL18P. The feed rate >> on >>>> this laminator is much to high, I replaced the motor with a DC gear >> motor >>>> and a cheap variable 6-24 VDC power supply. The temperature control also >> did >>>> not go as high as the spec sheet said it would. The temperature sensor >> looks >>>> to be a glass bead diode. It is mounted on a spring loaded arm that >> rides on >>>> the feed roll. Moving the sensor about 1/4" away from the roll increases >> the >>>> temperature enough to get pretty consistent transfers. I also reduced >> the >>>> spring tension on the rollers to reduce the spreading of the traces. I >> also >>>> had a problem with the connections inside the heating elements. The >> crimp >>>> connections inside the glass tube heating elements got so hot that the >>>> copper wires back to the control burned off. I had to stretch the >> nichrome >>>> elements out and make the connections outside of the glass tube. May >> sound >>>> like a lot of hassles but at least the side frames don't melt. It still >>>> takes 3 passes thru the laminator to get good transfers. >>>> >>>> The direct toner methods seem promising, but the need of a separate >>>> laminator to do the fusing doesn't give it much of an advantage over >> just >>>> using paper for the transfer. >>>> >>>> RD >>>> >>>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------------ >>> Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and >> Photos: >>> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Be sure to visit the group home and check for new Links, Files, and Photos: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Homebrew_PCBsYahoo! Groups Links > > > >
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re:GBC Laminators
2010-09-19 by freedom2000
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