RE: [Homebrew_PCBs] RE: Dyeing PCBs for a vintage look
2016-11-16 by Brad
Here s a comparison shot. On the left is an original 1974-vintage Mark-8 board. On the left is the closest natural green PCB material I could find thus
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2016-11-16 by Brad
Here s a comparison shot. On the left is an original 1974-vintage Mark-8 board. On the left is the closest natural green PCB material I could find thus
2016-11-16 by Dave Sage
For touch ups I would suggest, with the right ink, the technical pen would be far superior to a sharpie because you can just set the pen tip down and ink will
2016-11-16 by chuck richards
Is it possible that some of those vintage green boards were epoxy glass and not phenolic? My impression of it always has been that epoxy glass is a much more
2016-11-16 by Dennis Shelgren
Ghost green FR-4 is the color I recall. Hopefully the picture uploads. ... Ghost green FR-4 is the color I recall. Hopefully the picture uploads. On Nov 16,
2016-11-16 by Dennis Shelgren
Back then we just went to a stationary store that made them. Nowadays I use a laser engraver to make stamps. The natural boards we dyed were just
2016-11-16 by Harvey White
... Twice (or 4x) black crepe paper tape and black dots on acetate, photographed onto Kodalith film (reduction to life size) used as a master negative for
2016-11-16 by Brad
I was wondering about emulating the board house markings.. that’d really help with both my TVT and Mark-8 clones. How did you go about having the stamp
2016-11-16 by Brad
Thanks Dwayne. The phenolics I ve looked at online (mostly ebay) are as you say, brown. I m curious how we arrive at a green color like the originals I have.
2016-11-15 by Dennis Shelgren
I had to replicate some boards in some gambling machines once. It had to look exactly like the original for legal reasons. We had to order dyable pcbs, get
2016-11-15 by Dwayne Reid
Many of the old PCBs were made with phenolic PCB material. The color varies between brown to various shades of beige. You can still purchase bare (blank)
2016-11-15 by AncelB
Glass paints work well , but some may require a bit of baking to thermoset.
2016-11-15 by Rob
My goal here with SHARPIES is for touchup...adding anything that didn t TONER transfer properly..... not plotting. I ve gotten pretty consistent results with
2016-11-15 by Dave Sage
Yes. I used them for a couple of years and even installed them in my Roland plotter to plot circuit boards. They did an excellent job (if you were lucky) and
2016-11-15 by Rob
So just for giggles........ I tested dollar store permanent markers brand ACADEMIX and here s a surprise..... BLACK ink totally disappeared BLUE ink faded away
2016-11-15 by roylowenthal@...
Has anybody tried using a technical pen & one of the water resistant inks meant for drafting on film? Roy
2016-11-14 by Rob
I m using 50 ml muriatic acid mixed with 100 ml hydrogen peroxide...... both are 30% and 70% water. Standard hardware store $4 pool acid and drug store $3
2016-11-14 by Craig Martin
The staedtler lumocolor permanent pen 313 permanent (RED) 0.4 line works for me The black didn t work in ferric chloride Regards Craig VK2ZCM ... From: Rob
2016-11-13 by Rob
THANK YOU for the suggestion. I ll have them here in a few days. http://www.ebay.com/itm/262038010827 On 11/13/2016 03:48 AM, Dave Wade dave.g4ugm@gmail.com
2016-11-13 by Dave Wade
I believe that some of the Staedtler waterproof markers were reasonably etch resistant, may not be this exact one..
2016-11-13 by Rob
I had 6 years of drafting. 4 in high school and 2 after high school. I have drawn houses, office buildings, hospitals, solar houses.... footings to shingles
2016-11-13 by Brad Thompson
... Hello, Roy and the group-- Nothing, really-- In response to Bob Roomberg s experiments with marker pens as dispensers of resist for PC-board paths, an
2016-11-13 by roylowenthal@...
What s wrong with erasing shields? I still occasionally use one & just showed SWMBO the benefits of an Opaline bag for a pencil sketching class she s taking on
2016-11-13 by Brad Thompson
... Hello-- At the risk of revealing the era in which I learned technical drawing (*), how about using an erasing shield?
2016-11-12 by Rob
DOES IT ETCH does it leave enough ink on the PCB to leave copper traces after etching? Could you draw an 8 pin SMT landing pad with it?
2016-11-12 by Brad
Hey guys, I have recently heard of some methods of dyeing PCBs to achieve coloration closer to what vintage PCB stock looked like. I m wondering if any of
2016-11-12 by alan00463@...
I got a package of five Sharpie Precision precision markers from Staples. Also marked Ultra Fine . The package contained two black markers. The other
2016-11-12 by Rob
I was hoping to find a marker that could leave a finer line. I am getting a real fat line with a sharpie. So I was hoping a new sharpie might leave enough inck
2016-11-12 by AncelB
You need to use Silver Sharpies and make sure the ink is dry.
2016-11-12 by tasmod@...
Excellent test. I did something similar and was amazed at some results. I now use a black Laundry marker available here in the UK from W H Smiths a
2016-11-12 by Rob
I had been getting very mixed results with ARTLINE 70 HIGH PERFORMANCE permanent markers and SHARPIEs were drying out too fast for me so I tried other SHARPIE
2016-11-10 by Kamen Lilov
... hot acid using a sponge. ... Come to think of it, I d like to share a bit more of my process. I don t do laser and ironing (although I have LaserJet 2100
2016-11-10 by alan00463@...
Recall that I had chemically plated my board with bottom tracks using something like Tinnit chemical that I had got in powder form from allelectronics.com.
2016-11-10 by g8kps@...
Hi all, I m normally just lurking but I thought I would share this tip. I had run out Orange Dry Peel Negative Film, the solution I found was to use
2016-11-10 by Russell Shaw
... There s never corrosion problems after rinsing in water. If etching or developing is done in a tray, a lab hotplate is useful too.
2016-11-09 by keith printy
Someone I used to know heated his fecl3 in the microwave before etching . when I worked at an electronics plane we used a single burner electric stove and
2016-11-09 by Atlas Henry
... On Wed, 11/9/16, Kamen Lilov kamenl@gmail.com [Homebrew_PCBs] wrote: Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Heater for Etchant Bath
2016-11-09 by alan00463@...
ic_sizzle, I have also used the etching technique to which you alluded in post 35172 and ferric chloride. I keep my cold ferric chloride solution in a
2016-11-09 by Kevin Byrne
`Thank you Ancel, I have viewed your post and off to try out your way of alignment but with negatives done up in Eagle Free Ware & Hp Laser Jet P2015dn OEM
2016-11-09 by AncelB
Have a look at my doublesided PCB hackaday project, complete details, with pictures and videos. I describe an SMD approach but it works for thru hole just
2016-11-09 by Kevin Byrne
Thank` you Harvey I will look into what you said all thou I have a large supply of dual sides brd stock. The brds I am doing now are freeware eagle size 4 in
2016-11-09 by Kamen Lilov
Why would you heat it so hot as to let it fume? I ve been using FeCl for years, heated to about 50C / 130F in a microwave oven. I did not care to get a heated
2016-11-09 by Harvey White
... Go back and check some of the posts, please, there are several methods. What I do is to drill VERY accurate alignment holes. I make separate top and
2016-11-09 by kbyrne10@...
Does anyone know of a you-tube video that clearly does the entire process or a site that clearly describes the process for pdf downloads? What I mean is
2016-11-09 by Russell Shaw
... ... Unfortunately I have forgotten the innovative fellow s name Maybe the Edinburgh Etch that adds citric acid. Citric acid is available as white powder
2016-11-08 by keith printy
Back many years ago I remember this happening in a tv set. The 4.5 mhz discriminator did exactly that. Replacing it solved the problem. From:
2016-11-08 by ic_sizzle@...
Hi there, Newbie here. I use FeCl etchant, poured into a (genuine, high-heat) Pyrex baking dish which I heat on an single burner electric stove. Not very much
2016-11-08 by ic_sizzle@...
Hi there, Newbie here. I use FeCl etchant, poured into a (genuine, high-heat) Pyrex baking dish which I heat on an single burner electric stove. Use a HF (or
2016-11-06 by dgminala@...
Silver migration is nothing new; it s been known to those in the antique radio restoration business for many years in the form of thunderstorming . In ye
2016-11-06 by Harvey Altstadter
The paper kinda, sorta, gets around to mentioning silver migration at the very end. The is a very important failure mechanism for silver plated traces that
2016-11-06 by k5ess.nothdurft@...
I posted a file RE silver vs gold plating for contacts. I probably shouldn t take up file space for this so i will delete the file and just supply the link.