Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-26 by Lez
... Err, kodak paper is very good at getting the toner onto the board, but it wont peel off, only way is to rub through all the paper, the back of the paper
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-26 by Stefan Trethan
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 06:00:35 +0200, Herbert E. Plett ... Even the use of the mil or thou shows clearly the superiority of a decimal
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Toner Transfer using a Samsung ML-2010
2006-04-26 by Lez
... No the board contracts fast and the paper does not..... Thats what was happening to me, but instead of a bubble I was getting corners popping up. ... Yes I
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-26 by Stefan Trethan
On Wed, 26 Apr 2006 00:31:15 +0200, fenrir_co ... Some people use mil to abbrevate millimeter. If i hear it, i ll bite your head off,
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-26 by Herbert E. Plett
... deep wrong! a mm is one thousands of a meter - an internationally defined and fixed length. one inch is defined as 25.4 mm or 0.0254 m - there is no
Re: cleaning solution for inkjets - Steve
2006-04-26 by Steve
Wow... according to the MSDS, this one is only 1 to 5% ammonia, if I m interpreting this correctly: http://www.mchem.com/test/Pacific%20Ammonia.pdf So you d
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by fenrir_co
... I found this out the first time I did some quick PCBs for a friend. I thought that it sounded like very thick traces, I had assumed a mil meant a
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by lcdpublishing
LOL! You know, it does puzzle me why the rest of the world is still using metric when we are using Imperial ;-) In truth, to me it doesn t matter a bit - an
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Leon Heller
... From: onenastyviper To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 9:16 PM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re:
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
A mil is 0.001 inch or 0.0254mm. IMO it is a real problem, now they prefer to go metric with pin spacings, it is a nightmare. If only _some people_ had
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by onenastyviper
Hi guys, Firstly, for a person brought up on metric, what is a mil ?? Secondly, I believe my hp 1022 is also a 1200dpi native resolution what sort of minimum
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
... It is not really a reinforcement, it seems it thickens up the layer in those large areas. Thin traces work allright with silicone paper, but 1mm and up
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
... temperature ... renders ... I see... so the paper residue acts as a reinforcement in the toner, like fiberglass in epoxy... Yes, the toner itself is rather
Re: Toner Transfer using a Samsung ML-2010
2006-04-25 by thomascouey
I have the exact same printer, just bought it a few weeks ago explicitly for the purposes of toner transfer (and it was dirt cheap). My first attempt failed,
Alternates to Windex outside North America
2006-04-25 by Steve
Found this on a site about using Future on models: I want to talk about Windex for a moment here. Windex is an ammonia based window cleaner, it has a
Re: Inkjet & double sided boards - potential problem for some of us :-(
2006-04-25 by lcdpublishing
Ah yes, I see what you are saying. The test I did this morning was a very small board about 2 x 2 in the upper left corner of the sheet. This moved the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
... That s a good idea. But i suspect you might see the same problems as with high temperature silicone coat. It will come off easily (just pull), but the lack
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Inkjet & double sided boards - potential problem for some of us :-(
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
On Tue, 25 Apr 2006 16:57:33 +0200, lcdpublishing ... That s why you make that little center mark on the edge exactly where the mirrored result is mirrored
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Can 600dpi laser printers do 8/8 ?
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
I can make 6.66mil lines and spaces _just_ with my 600 DPI lexmark. But the spaces will come out under and the lines above that, so it is better to keep the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Transfer Paper
2006-04-25 by Lez
Well by the time I got back from a trip to the car store to get some new trailer lights, I didnt have time to go to the art shop, but pc-world is open for
cleaning solution for inkjets - Steve
2006-04-25 by Stefan Trethan
Hi, went to get the ingredients today. The ammonia is 25%, so i will have to dilute that down. Was only 4,35eur of which over 1eur i think is the bottle, so i
Tarn-X MSDS found -Was-Re: Prepping PCB for printing with MISPRO pigmented ink
2006-04-25 by kilocycles
And I bet those lab rats weren t wearing household gloves . Ted
Re: Toner Transfer using a Samsung ML-2010
2006-04-25 by kilocycles
Mark, I m not familiar with the Samsung ML-2010, but if it s a fairly new printer it could be using a toner that requires more fuser heat to funtion, as does
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Old HP Laser Jets and other tales of woe-Was-HP-II, etc
2006-04-25 by Mycroft2152
I was just pulling your leg, a little :) seriously, if there is anything I can do to help, contact me off list. Myc ...
Re: Old HP Laser Jets and other tales of woe-Was-HP-II, etc
2006-04-25 by kilocycles
Myc, Well, I don t know what to say at this point except @#%& &$#@ ! I lost my DipTrace example components I made while doing the tutorial as well. I really
More info on thiourea (Tarn-X ingredient)
2006-04-25 by kilocycles
Here s a link to a US National Institutes of Health Report on Carcinongens that addresses thiourea specifically as a potential carcinogen:
Inkjet & double sided boards - potential problem for some of us :-(
2006-04-25 by lcdpublishing
Mechanically, getting double sided printing to line up isn t all that difficult, we have already covered that issue - One edge against a rail, then the use of
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Leon Heller
... From: sm4rzw To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 3:26 PM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner
[Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Can 600dpi laser printers do 8/8 ?
2006-04-25 by Kamal Shankar
... My point exactly. Along your lines, I can print 5mil very well udinh my 600dpi laser, but it s badly smudged after the transfer. Would getting a 1200dpi
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
... coatings, but ... http://www.pulsar.gs/PCB/a_Pages/4_Products/4a_Transfer_Paper/Transfer _paper.html ... Obviously, yes. Maybe I overheated it. Or some
Re: New Poll
2006-04-25 by Chris Horne
Laudable but .. 1. I already use more than one technique, depending on quality quantiy and speed required. 2. If I/we get the Inkjet transfer method working
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Can 600dpi laser printers do 8/8 ?
2006-04-25 by Mycroft2152
Hi kaml, I m using a Samung ML-2010 for toner transfer. It works fine. Any toner transfer process needs to be fine tuned for the specific combination of
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Leon Heller
... From: sm4rzw To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 11:33 AM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner
Re: Can 600dpi laser printers do 8/8 ?
2006-04-25 by lcdpublishing
Kamal, I think you can do 8 mil., but I don t know how well it will transfer to the copper and how well it will hold up during etching. The best I could get
Re: Direct to pcb printing
2006-04-25 by lcdpublishing
Thanks for the update MYC, it is good to read about some positive results! The crude tests with durabrite inks did show they would resist, but not very well.
New Poll
2006-04-25 by Zoran A. Scepanovic
Hi all, beeing tired of the soooooooooo long discusion on different techniques of artwork transfer to PCB, I have just created new poll and the
New poll for Homebrew_PCBs
2006-04-25 by Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the Homebrew_PCBs group: Which method do you use for artwork transfer? o Photo transfer o Tonner
New poll for Homebrew_PCBs
2006-04-25 by Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Enter your vote today! A new poll has been created for the Homebrew_PCBs group: What is your preferred artwork transfer method? o Photo transfer o Tonner
Can 600dpi laser printers do 8/8 ?
2006-04-25 by Kamal Shankar
I have done 15mil using 600dpi laser printer (a very good but old Canon), and now am thinking of buying a new laser printer. I am thinking of something from
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Lez
... Well I will look for a supply of ready coated sheets, or labels, but even wine sized labels would be good for wine label sized pcbs :) I m uk, but type
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Toner Transfer Paper
2006-04-25 by Herbert E. Plett
the paper towel trick is to ensure a gentle heat transfer and to avoid the risk of squeezing the traces. you don t have to rub the paper off, you must peel
Direct to pcb printing
2006-04-25 by mycroft2152
i ve been in contact with Volkan off list and had received samples of the MIS ink on pcbs. The samples were for testing the individual inks in etching baths.
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
... worth a go! ... inkjet/copier etc ... Yes, cheaper paper can surely be used, I think its an advantage if the paper is more like standard copy paper since
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Lez
right, I will try some from the artist supply in town, got to be worth a go! Then its got to be worth a try on cheaper paper, ie coated inkjet/copier etc You
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
This is the adesive I use: http://www.misterart.com/store/view.cfm? group_id=1309044&AID=10273655&PID=606558&store=001 Found at artist s shops /Lars
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Lez
Damn! I was off to homebrew shop for citric acid as a rust remover.
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
... shops. It s ... I ve tried Dextrin, a type of modified starch. Makes good coatings, but cant handle the heat from the ironing; gets brown, smells and wont
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Leon Heller
... From: sm4rzw To: Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2006 10:52 AM Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Some toner
Re: Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by sm4rzw
... Since I dont have the proper american words for some items, I ll try to explain instead. Yes, it works! The easiest way would be to find paper, coated
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Some toner transfer experiments
2006-04-25 by Lez
... I d love to understand how your doing it? Are you saying it works? It sounds like you are saying you apply glue to paper, then print, iron on, then soak