Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-30 by mikezcnc
Richard, Your observation is correct, we talk about everything and we use mental abbreviation whih may have confused people. The successful mix is: 1.
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Re: What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-30 by rmustakos
Mike Thanks for answering. IPA is isopropal alcohol, but I have to think too hard to try to spell that, and I saw someone else just writing IPA, so I helped
Re: What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-30 by Phil
That s my experience, too. I use emery cloth (600 grit) as well as a good detergent scrub and IPA (isopropyl alcohol or India Pale Ale - I like em both). I
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-30 by Richard Mustakos
Mike, This is about as clear as mud (to me). Is the paper you are talking about the Staples ink jet paper? Some times I get that feeling, and some times I
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Electroplating for PCB construction
2004-07-30 by Jeremy Taylor
not feasible Doing something like this is like going backwards with trying to re-invent how to make PCBs not to mention the ink you d inevitably waste . I
Re: What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-30 by mikezcnc
That question puzzled me, too. Originally I used a cigarette lighter fluid (european Benzine) which always removed something dirty afer having used the dish
Re: What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-30 by Richard Mustakos
I have scrubbed the surface of boards , and washed them with detergents, but until I used IPA, I was never able to get the toner to stick reliably. Does
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-30 by Jeremy Taylor
Adam Flash copper (Alkaline) works better for me than acid copper. In the future you might just want to say copper plating leaving acid out as there is
Electroplating for PCB construction
2004-07-30 by Richard Mustakos
Reading Mike s email on PTH (Re: Markus s machine and old posts) conductive ink, I got to wondering. I don t think the ink is conductive enough to make
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-30 by Adam Seychell
... This is very true. The electroplating, and application of your own photoresists is the other major parts of the PTH process. In addition to etching, and
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-30 by mikezcnc
Dave, My comments are below, mix in text. Mike ... all ... = all there means that if someone has job for tomorrow and his boss has no money for a PCB house and
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Dave Mucha
... all there is would imply there is no room for improvement. #1) not all people on this list live where they can buy these parts #2) not all peple on this
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
I wrote what I think about other kinds of papers before I read your not, kind of sensing that someone might not like what I wrote. Please notice, that I am not
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
No, of course not, I respect every hacker there is, but I value the time a lot more these days and I wish I knew about that golden mix of HC200 laminator and
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Phil
For the simple fact that many of us very successfully use other paper and different methods of fusing toner to copper. Speaking just for myself, I dont like
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: TT distortions
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... The important thing is the shirt shrinks very much the first time you wash it, and then much, much less. Buying the shit larger is more like printing at,
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Thanks, Jeremy. Mike
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... Possibly a misunderstanding. I interpreted it as by the thing there is nothing else worth thinking about . ST
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by Jeremy Taylor
I have used both. I prefer Flash copper but either will work well. JT ... From: mikezcnc To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2004 4:10
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Jeremy, would you suggest http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/copper.htm or this http://www.caswellplating.com/kits/flashcopper.html Mike ... to do plated
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Jeremy, That s what I was thinking that it looked too involved. Thanks for mentioning. Now, if we only could mix our own hole ligner . Mike ... to do plated
Re: TT distortions
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Thanks for the comments, Stefan. I like the idea of preshrinking the paper same principle applies to new cotton shirt, that mother used to buy a size larger
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by Jeremy Taylor
While I ll admit Markus s plating system is a piece of working art, to do plated holes you do not have to be so talented in design and fabrication. A simple
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Why is it a wrong statement that HC200 and Gootee paper is not all there is to TT? You don t have to make any changes to it if doing 0.040 PCBs. And small
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... Good to hear i made you rethink that micro idea ;-). Get some decent analog electronics in there! (it is really simple, just a transistor as Esteban wrote.
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Billy Byler
Thanks for the info, everyone! This is a learning/hobby project for me that will hopefully result in a capable laminator. I considered buying a laminator,
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] TT distortions
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... I m also concerned about distortion, but i found something more unsettling last time making a board. the fuser/laminator to transfer made the paper shrink
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Esteban Arias
I have the same configuration with a HP 4L fuser and bipolar stepper motor. I supply 220v to the fuser. We have 220v in my country. In the manual service of
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... This is probably the most wrong statement we ever had here. Buying a $90 fuser isn t even scratching the surface of what is to be known about laminating.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... All i ve seen use direct mains AC. The SSR are probably ideal. ... No, not noisy. they are NTC thermistors usually. Of course you might have small
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004 15:05:11 -0000, StevenManzer ... i use 600grit paper and then IPA or acetone. Steel wool works too, various scotch-brite products as well,
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Markus's machine and old posts
2004-07-29 by Markus Zingg
... Thanks, Markus - one leg already inside the car...
Re: Markus's machine and old posts
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Dave, As far as a four layer board is concerned, an extensive check on what s available in the archives and emails with Makrus brought me to conclusion that a
Re: Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Billy, this is a classic question on the subject. A laminator HC 200 from GBC, can be had for $90, lock stock and barrell. It provides wonderfull results as
Beginner questions on building a homebrew TT laminator
2004-07-29 by Billy Byler
Apparently I cannot wield a clothes iron very well (my pattern usually turns out like swiss cheese), so I m going to start constructing a laminator out of a
Re: Markus's machine and old posts
2004-07-29 by Dave Mucha
... the ... two ... I can search the list in a few minutes and offer post numbers so we can all read up while you are on holiday. Have a wonderful time
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by Dave Mucha
... That is what I was trying to say to Ballendo. the brain trust on this board peaks in the making PCB s area and is THE place to get ansers when you want
Re: What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Steve, I tested that on new blanks from ebay and I used a scouring pad for dishes (the green plastic one) and dish soap. It stuck like a dream. Few times in 90
What cleaner to use for preparing for TT
2004-07-29 by StevenManzer
Hi Everyone, It has been a while since I made some circuit boards, and I can not rememember what I used to clean the blank pcb prior to ironing on the toner.
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update
2004-07-29 by Roy J. Tellason
... Yeah, I know *exactly* what you mean, there... :-(
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update - website ?
2004-07-29 by Markus Zingg
... Mike, Actually 4 (or 6 for that matter) layers is not even really hard. It s a bit more work but definately doable. Basically I do my own multilayers
Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update - website ?
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
a bit of a joke on my part, Stefan, no harm intended. TT is working for me also very well, but I am concerned with what what Jeremy said that he measured the
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update - website ?
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... No, definitely not. I still believe it was wrong to send a couple of clearly off topic, clearly private mails on list. I d probably do the same again
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... What did you expect? that there is anyone out there able to spell PCB and not a list member.... nah ;-) The setup of Markus is very nice indeed, I d quite
Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update - website ?
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Stefan, would you call your mistake a case of overmoderation? Mike ... mill...
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update - website ?
2004-07-29 by Stefan Trethan
... ;-) it wasn t one mail... there were 4 or 5 i ignored, and reading the sixt i thougt i might point out it is not interesting for 99% of the group who buys
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
I can t believe- Markus is a member of this board! It is a very professionally looking setup that you created. Have you been able to provide few words that
Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by Markus Zingg
m.zingg@nct.ch No problem Markus
Re: Plating thruholes.
2004-07-29 by mikezcnc
Excellent info, Dave. I wish Marcus provided email to ocntact him. Mike ... but ... simple ... from ... and ... needed. ... and ... black ... and ... recently,
Group scope again?!? was Re: 500 buck CNC pcb mill/drills update
2004-07-29 by Dave Mucha
... Don t over react. the poster said that free reign should be given to those who have some products, specifically, TurboCNC, Gecko, Xylotex... and so on. My