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PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Brian

I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 
complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 
layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 
could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 
going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of less 
than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 
would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.

Thanks,
Brian

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Simao Cardoso

On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 01:57 +0000, Brian wrote:
> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 
> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 
> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 
> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 
> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of
> less 
> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 
> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.

I remember that integration IA4420/21 had documentation and layouts (in
pdf) of various pcb antenas for 315/433/868/915MHz,  i couldn't found
the original url now. The files are IA_ISM-AN1.pdf and IA_ISM-AN2.pdf
you can still found them, if not ask me by email. I start a design but
bought it already made and cheaper...

Simao

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by leon Heller

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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 1:57 AM
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna


>I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be
> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric
> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I
> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am
> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of less
> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and
> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.

The antenna itself is generally simple - a dipole or 1/4 wave with a 
groundplane. What complicates things is the matching network that is usually 
required.

Leon
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Leon Heller
Amateur radio call-sign  G1HSM
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Re: PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Juan EA7FNJ

hi everyone!

Try this: http://www.signalengineering.com/ultimate/gamma.jpg

It's easy.

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <blue_eagle74@...> wrote:
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> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 
> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 
> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 
> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 
> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of less 
> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 
> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

If you go to http://www.archive.org and click on the advanced search and paste in the full URL below into the new search,for each file, it returns the PDFs.

http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN1.pdf 

http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN2.pdf 





--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@...> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 5:10 AM











    
            On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 01:57 +0000, Brian wrote:

> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 

> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 

> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 

> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 

> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of

> less 

> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 

> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.



I remember that integration IA4420/21 had documentation and layouts (in

pdf) of various pcb antenas for 315/433/868/ 915MHz,  i couldn't found

the original url now. The files are IA_ISM-AN1.pdf and IA_ISM-AN2.pdf

you can still found them, if not ask me by email. I start a design but

bought it already made and cheaper...



Simao




 

      

    

           
  
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

This stupid Yahoo email system has sprinkled spaces all over the links, remove the spaces from the links to ensure URL links work.





--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...> wrote:
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From: Malcolm Parker-Lisberg <mparkerlisberg@...>
Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 9:04 AM











    
            If you go to http://www.archive. org and click on the advanced search and paste in the full URL below into the new search,for each file, it returns the PDFs.



http://www.integrat ion.com/docs/ IA_ISM-AN1. pdf 



http://www.integrat ion.com/docs/ IA_ISM-AN2. pdf 



--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@ gmail.com> wrote:

From: Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@ gmail.com>

Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

To: Homebrew_PCBs@ yahoogroups. com

Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 5:10 AM



On Mon, 2009-02-09 at 01:57 +0000, Brian wrote:



> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 



> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 



> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 



> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 



> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of



> less 



> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 



> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.



I remember that integration IA4420/21 had documentation and layouts (in



pdf) of various pcb antenas for 315/433/868/ 915MHz,  i couldn't found



the original url now. The files are IA_ISM-AN1.pdf and IA_ISM-AN2.pdf



you can still found them, if not ask me by email. I start a design but



bought it already made and cheaper...



Simao



	

	 

	

	



	



	

	



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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Jack Coats

integration.com is now some catchall site and is for sale.

Malcolm Parker-Lisberg wrote:
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> From: Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@...>
> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna
> To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

2009-02-09 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

Please read the message again, I did not say to visit the site of the links given, but to use it as search criteria in the www.archive.org site. If you do what I suggested, you get the documents.



--- On Mon, 2/9/09, Jack Coats <jack@...> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
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            integration. com is now some catchall site and is for sale.



Malcolm Parker-Lisberg wrote:

> If you go to http://www.archive. org and click on the advanced search and paste in the full URL below into the new search,for each file, it returns the PDFs.

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> --- On Mon, 2/9/09, Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@ gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Simao Cardoso <simaocardoso@ gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] PCB Antenna

> To: Homebrew_PCBs@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Monday, February 9, 2009, 5:10 AM

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Re: PCB Antenna

2009-02-20 by Steve

Look in Microchip's App Notes under rfPIC, they have several that
cover PCB antenna design for that band.

<http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1469>

If that link doesn't work, go to their home page and click on "App
Notes & Source Code" and then "rfPIC Devices", then select "ALL".

http://www.microchip.com/

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, "Brian" <blue_eagle74@...> wrote:
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> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 
> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 
> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 
> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 
> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of less 
> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 
> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.
> 
> Thanks,
> Brian
>

Re: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB Antenna

2009-02-20 by Malcolm Parker-Lisberg

To repeat the message I sent on 9th Feb
If you go to http://www.archive.org and click on the advanced search and paste in the full URL below into the new search,for each file, it returns the PDFs.

http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN1.pdf 

http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN2.pdf 



--- On Fri, 2/20/09, Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:
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From: Steve <alienrelics@...>
Subject: [Homebrew_PCBs] Re: PCB Antenna
To: Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, February 20, 2009, 4:43 AM











    
            Look in Microchip's App Notes under rfPIC, they have several that

cover PCB antenna design for that band.



<http://www.microchi p.com/stellent/ idcplg?IdcServic e=SS_GET_ PAGE&nodeId= 1469>



If that link doesn't work, go to their home page and click on "App

Notes & Source Code" and then "rfPIC Devices", then select "ALL".



http://www.microchi p.com/



Steve Greenfield



--- In Homebrew_PCBs@ yahoogroups. com, "Brian" <blue_eagle74@ ...> wrote:

>

> I have been researching PCB Antenna's and found that they can be 

> complicated. What I would like to know.. does anyone have a genaric 

> layout for a 50 ohm 433MHz PCB antenna, if not a layout than how I 

> could do it. A tutorial would be cool too. I am using Eagle CAD. I am 

> going to try to etch it myself. I am only looking at a distance of less 

> than 100 ft at about 2400 baud. I made a tempreture datalogger and 

> would like to add a wireless unit for an outside temp.

> 

> Thanks,

> Brian

>




 

      

    
    
	
	 
	
	








	


	
	


      

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Re: PCB Antenna

2009-02-20 by Steve

I think we all saw that.

Steve Greenfield

--- In Homebrew_PCBs@yahoogroups.com, Malcolm Parker-Lisberg
<mparkerlisberg@...> wrote:
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> To repeat the message I sent on 9th Feb
> If you go to http://www.archive.org and click on the advanced search
and paste in the full URL below into the new search,for each file, it
returns the PDFs.
> 
> http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN1.pdf 
> 
> http://www.integration.com/docs/IA_ISM-AN2.pdf 
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> --- On Fri, 2/20/09, Steve <alienrelics@...> wrote:
> From: Steve <alienrelics@...>

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>             Look in Microchip's App Notes under rfPIC, they have
several that
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> cover PCB antenna design for that band.
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<http://www.microchip.com/stellent/idcplg?IdcService=SS_GET_PAGE&nodeId=1469>
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