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How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-18 by pete_buchwald

Hey Gang, 

This is both a quasi survey, and a quest for tech help.

I started a re-mix project yesterday.  My friend Rachel Loy let me have a copy of her Pro 
Tools TDM session for my audio students to try mixing.   I was able to truncate her 50 
tracks down to the 32 required for Pro Tools LE.

I decided to try mixing the session myself in order to practice mixing.

When I pulled the files into Logic to start mixing .... it just wouldn't play!!  Maybe a 
measure and then a window pops up and says "sorry charlie" so to speak.

I've tried all kinds of things with buffer size, with putting the project on external firewire 
drive (through a hub), or internal drive.

When I open up the project in Pro Tools on the same computer (G5 Macbook) it plays fine, 
and I can insert plugins without any complaints from the CPU.

I'm tempted, in Logic, to add tracks one by one and see when the computer finally 
surrenders.

I'll have to resort to doing sub-mixes of drums, etc. in order to mix this.   But wanted to 
see if any solutions other than Ensemble or somthing were discovered among my Logic 
Pro peers.

Thanks for any input on these matters!

Re: [Logic_Cafe] How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-18 by Duane Miller

On May 18, 2007, at 7:57 AM, pete_buchwald wrote:

> I've tried all kinds of things with buffer size, with putting the  
> project on external firewire
> drive (through a hub), or internal drive.

Are you using the latest version of Logic. If not it runs under  
emulation on a intel macbook and would cause this problem. When you  
say G5 and macbook do you mean powerbook which is a G4 or macbook  
which is an Intel machine not a G5?

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Re: [Logic_Cafe] How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-18 by Andy Hardwake

Hi Pete,

What audio hardware? What version of Logic? What OS? What sample  
rate? What file type? ... ... Have you checked the mixer/audio routing?

Best,

Andy

-- 
Andy Hardwake
Composer/Producer
<http://www.myspace.com/andyhardwake>
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On May 18, 2007, at 7:57 AM, pete_buchwald wrote:

> Hey Gang,
>
> This is both a quasi survey, and a quest for tech help.
>
> I started a re-mix project yesterday.  My friend Rachel Loy let me  
> have a copy of her Pro
> Tools TDM session for my audio students to try mixing.   I was able  
> to truncate her 50
> tracks down to the 32 required for Pro Tools LE.
>
> I decided to try mixing the session myself in order to practice  
> mixing.
>
> When I pulled the files into Logic to start mixing .... it just  
> wouldn't play!!  Maybe a
> measure and then a window pops up and says "sorry charlie" so to  
> speak.
>
> I've tried all kinds of things with buffer size, with putting the  
> project on external firewire
> drive (through a hub), or internal drive.
>
> When I open up the project in Pro Tools on the same computer (G5  
> Macbook) it plays fine,
> and I can insert plugins without any complaints from the CPU.
>
> I'm tempted, in Logic, to add tracks one by one and see when the  
> computer finally
> surrenders.
>
> I'll have to resort to doing sub-mixes of drums, etc. in order to  
> mix this.   But wanted to
> see if any solutions other than Ensemble or somthing were  
> discovered among my Logic
> Pro peers.
>
> Thanks for any input on these matters!
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>

Re: [Logic_Cafe] How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-18 by GAmoore@aol.com

One trick is to hit PAUSE then un-PAUSE rather than PLAY. For some reason, 
hitting Play makes Logic freakout but Pause allows it to get its act together 
and then play in many borderline cases.

You can also bounce all tracks to audio and then just play audio with no 
plugins at all. Its like freezing the files, but I did have some crashes at times 
when freezing or unfreezing.


In a message dated 5/18/07 7:59:22 AM, pete_buchwald@... writes:

> When I pulled the files into Logic to start mixing .... it just wouldn't 
> play!! Maybe a
> measure and then a window pops up and says "sorry charlie" so to speak.
> 




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Re: How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-19 by pete_buchwald

So does anybody have a rough track number in their head for their Logic Pro's limit?  
Without an Ensemble.


> What audio hardware? What version of Logic? What OS? What sample  
> rate? What file type? ... ... Have you checked the mixer/audio routing?


Audio Hardware:   I tried both my MOTU 8-Pre and my MBox (1).  

Logic Version:  7.2.3 (Academic)

OS:  10.4.8

File Type:  .wav (created in Pro Tools) 44.1/16 bit I think.  

Intel Macbook

Not sure what you mean by "checking the mixer/audio routing."  

Thanks for any input.
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> 
> > Hey Gang,
> >
> > This is both a quasi survey, and a quest for tech help.
> >
> > I started a re-mix project yesterday.  My friend Rachel Loy let me  
> > have a copy of her Pro
> > Tools TDM session for my audio students to try mixing.   I was able  
> > to truncate her 50
> > tracks down to the 32 required for Pro Tools LE.
> >
> > I decided to try mixing the session myself in order to practice  
> > mixing.
> >
> > When I pulled the files into Logic to start mixing .... it just  
> > wouldn't play!!  Maybe a
> > measure and then a window pops up and says "sorry charlie" so to  
> > speak.
> >
> > I've tried all kinds of things with buffer size, with putting the  
> > project on external firewire
> > drive (through a hub), or internal drive.
> >
> > When I open up the project in Pro Tools on the same computer (G5  
> > Macbook) it plays fine,
> > and I can insert plugins without any complaints from the CPU.
> >
> > I'm tempted, in Logic, to add tracks one by one and see when the  
> > computer finally
> > surrenders.
> >
> > I'll have to resort to doing sub-mixes of drums, etc. in order to  
> > mix this.   But wanted to
> > see if any solutions other than Ensemble or somthing were  
> > discovered among my Logic
> > Pro peers.
> >
> > Thanks for any input on these matters!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
> >
> >
>

Re: How Many Tracks before Computer Non-Compliance?

2007-05-20 by pellefri

Hi,
limit... I mix songs with 70-80 tracks without problems. It is usually the disk that is slow.
How much ram do you have?

Pelle
G5 2*2, 3,5Gb
Fireface 800
2-UAD1
Powercore

--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, "pete_buchwald" <pete_buchwald@...> wrote:
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>
> So does anybody have a rough track number in their head for their Logic Pro's limit?  
> Without an Ensemble.
> 
> 
> > What audio hardware? What version of Logic? What OS? What sample  
> > rate? What file type? ... ... Have you checked the mixer/audio routing?
> 
> 
> Audio Hardware:   I tried both my MOTU 8-Pre and my MBox (1).  
> 
> Logic Version:  7.2.3 (Academic)
> 
> OS:  10.4.8
> 
> File Type:  .wav (created in Pro Tools) 44.1/16 bit I think.  
> 
> Intel Macbook
> 
> Not sure what you mean by "checking the mixer/audio routing."  
> 
> Thanks for any input.  
> 
> > 
> > > Hey Gang,
> > >
> > > This is both a quasi survey, and a quest for tech help.
> > >
> > > I started a re-mix project yesterday.  My friend Rachel Loy let me  
> > > have a copy of her Pro
> > > Tools TDM session for my audio students to try mixing.   I was able  
> > > to truncate her 50
> > > tracks down to the 32 required for Pro Tools LE.
> > >
> > > I decided to try mixing the session myself in order to practice  
> > > mixing.
> > >
> > > When I pulled the files into Logic to start mixing .... it just  
> > > wouldn't play!!  Maybe a
> > > measure and then a window pops up and says "sorry charlie" so to  
> > > speak.
> > >
> > > I've tried all kinds of things with buffer size, with putting the  
> > > project on external firewire
> > > drive (through a hub), or internal drive.
> > >
> > > When I open up the project in Pro Tools on the same computer (G5  
> > > Macbook) it plays fine,
> > > and I can insert plugins without any complaints from the CPU.
> > >
> > > I'm tempted, in Logic, to add tracks one by one and see when the  
> > > computer finally
> > > surrenders.
> > >
> > > I'll have to resort to doing sub-mixes of drums, etc. in order to  
> > > mix this.   But wanted to
> > > see if any solutions other than Ensemble or somthing were  
> > > discovered among my Logic
> > > Pro peers.
> > >
> > > Thanks for any input on these matters!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>

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