Apple Logic Pro /LogicExpress Discussion

http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/

Performance...
http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html

--
Thanks - RevDave
Cool @ hosting4days . com
[db-lists]

Before you get too excited... If you can hold out until June...

http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/27/next-macbook-and-macbook-pro-updates-
in-june/




-Man Parrish


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, revDAVE <cool@...> wrote:

>
> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
> 
> Performance...
> http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html
> 
> --
> Thanks - RevDave
> Cool @ hosting4days . com
> [db-lists]
>

Hi Man,
(still) a big fan of your work :-)
please note that the current (since okt 2007) macbooks and macbook pros,
have an issue with the firewire bus. The Agere chipset is used,  
instead of the
TI chipset. This will cause all kinds of problems with firewire based  
audio interfaces,
and it would be a good idea, to look at what apple is doing,  
regarding this.
A workaround is to use another firewire device, with a terminator on  
the same bus.
Cheers,
Jan


On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Man Parrish wrote:

> Before you get too excited... If you can hold out until June...
>
> http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/27/next-macbook-and-macbook-pro- 
> updates-
> in-june/
>
> -Man Parrish
>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, revDAVE <cool@...> wrote:
> >
> > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
> >
> > Performance...
> > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html
> >
> > --
> > Thanks - RevDave
> > Cool @ hosting4days . com
> > [db-lists]
> >
>
>
> 



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Hey Jan,

Thanks for that info. O also know several book were having USB problems. I use the M-
Audio TORQ CONNECTIV usb interface for DJ-ing live with my little black macbook. I [and 
several others] were having problems with USB interfaces going silent, or producing 
crackles, etc..  Turns out it wasn't the interface but the way Apple implemented the USB 
ports. Seem that they "lost sync" with the motherboard or something like that. The work 
around was to use the USB 2.0 port CLOSEST to the keyboard [or the "lower one] as 
opposed to the one nearer to the screen. That solved everything. Someone mentioned that 
the "lower" port spoke directly to the chip while the upper one was "branched off" or 
something like that.  Hope this helps any hair pulling. And of course shut off bluetooth, 
airport, file sharing and any background processes if you plan on DJ-ing live. The 
background "bpm calculations" and file analysis chew up a ton of processor time. BTW 
Torq Dj as been ULTRA stable for me..

Cheers !  -Man Parrish


--- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, pressure studios <contact@...> wrote:

>
> Hi Man,
> (still) a big fan of your work :-)
> please note that the current (since okt 2007) macbooks and macbook pros,
> have an issue with the firewire bus. The Agere chipset is used,  
> instead of the
> TI chipset. This will cause all kinds of problems with firewire based  
> audio interfaces,
> and it would be a good idea, to look at what apple is doing,  
> regarding this.
> A workaround is to use another firewire device, with a terminator on  
> the same bus.
> Cheers,
> Jan
> 
> 
> On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Man Parrish wrote:
> 
> > Before you get too excited... If you can hold out until June...
> >
> > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/27/next-macbook-and-macbook-pro- 
> > updates-
> > in-june/
> >
> > -Man Parrish
> >
> > --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, revDAVE <cool@> wrote:
> > >
> > > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
> > >
> > > Performance...
> > > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html
> > >
> > > --
> > > Thanks - RevDave
> > > Cool @ hosting4days . com
> > > [db-lists]
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> 
> 
> 
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

On 03/03/2008, at 3:23 AM, Man Parrish wrote:

>  And of course shut off bluetooth,
> airport, file sharing and any background processes if you plan on  
> DJ-ing live. The
> background "bpm calculations" and file analysis chew up a ton of  
> processor time. BTW
> Torq Dj as been ULTRA stable for me..

This is great advice for any computer if you're trying to wring every  
last bit of power out of it. I have and old 12" Powerbook that I use  
as a live keyboard rig running Logic's instruments and I get better  
performance at lower CPU by disabling ALL network ports.

The easiest way to do this is to go to Network Preferences, save your  
existing location setup first and then create a new Location with a  
name like "Live Playing" with ALL network ports deleted - ethernet,  
bluetooth, internal modem, firewire (this last one doesn't affect  
using Firewire for a hard drive or interface)etc...

Then  you can simply switch between locations from the Location menu  
in the Finder Apple Menu. I used to turn them all on/ off  
individually until I discovered this. Just thought others might like  
to know.

Kind regards


:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::
Paul Najar
Jaminajar Music Production
www.jaminajar.com




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Hi Man,
thanks for the info, the only things that run on USB are a BCR2000,  
AMT8 midi, and a Radikal Tech SAC 2.2 controller
and all work fine. (phew :-)
Computers used G4 desktop (DP1.4 and Powerbook G4 1.4) Both still  
functioning lol.
Will update the desktop this spring if the god of $$���� permits it.

sorry to hear about the USB trouble, IME the RME interface, and PCMIA  
cards are very stable.
Maybe a PCMIA card with USB will do the trick? Bypass the usual  
(crowded & bad) USB bus?
Solved some issues here with the SAC 2.2 (didn't want to "talk back"  
to the computer) by using a stock PCI - USB card.
And also a USB cable with a little amplifier. (have long cables)
Also had some firewire issues which were solved by using a dedicated  
firewire amplifier. (not a hub, with passive amplifier, that didn't  
work)

The Agere chip issue is not related however. New reports say the last  
apple laptops have TI chips again, have not been able to test myself  
though.

I'll have a look at Torq DJ, was planning however another Pioneer CD  
player, since it's closer to spinning vinyl.
(and I love doing that) :-D

Please keep making the tunes!
Cheers,
Jan

On Mar 2, 2008, at 5:23 PM, Man Parrish wrote:

> Hey Jan,
>
> Thanks for that info. O also know several book were having USB  
> problems. I use the M-
> Audio TORQ CONNECTIV usb interface for DJ-ing live with my little  
> black macbook. I [and
> several others] were having problems with USB interfaces going  
> silent, or producing
> crackles, etc.. Turns out it wasn't the interface but the way Apple  
> implemented the USB
> ports. Seem that they "lost sync" with the motherboard or something  
> like that. The work
> around was to use the USB 2.0 port CLOSEST to the keyboard [or the  
> "lower one] as
> opposed to the one nearer to the screen. That solved everything.  
> Someone mentioned that
> the "lower" port spoke directly to the chip while the upper one was  
> "branched off" or
> something like that. Hope this helps any hair pulling. And of  
> course shut off bluetooth,
> airport, file sharing and any background processes if you plan on  
> DJ-ing live. The
> background "bpm calculations" and file analysis chew up a ton of  
> processor time. BTW
> Torq Dj as been ULTRA stable for me..
>
> Cheers ! -Man Parrish
>
> --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, pressure studios <contact@...>  
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Man,
> > (still) a big fan of your work :-)
> > please note that the current (since okt 2007) macbooks and  
> macbook pros,
> > have an issue with the firewire bus. The Agere chipset is used,
> > instead of the
> > TI chipset. This will cause all kinds of problems with firewire  
> based
> > audio interfaces,
> > and it would be a good idea, to look at what apple is doing,
> > regarding this.
> > A workaround is to use another firewire device, with a terminator on
> > the same bus.
> > Cheers,
> > Jan
> >
> >
> > On Feb 28, 2008, at 6:39 PM, Man Parrish wrote:
> >
> > > Before you get too excited... If you can hold out until June...
> > >
> > > http://www.macrumors.com/2008/02/27/next-macbook-and-macbook-pro-
> > > updates-
> > > in-june/
> > >
> > > -Man Parrish
> > >
> > > --- In Logic_Cafe@yahoogroups.com, revDAVE <cool@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/
> > > >
> > > > Performance...
> > > > http://www.apple.com/macbookpro/performance.html
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Thanks - RevDave
> > > > Cool @ hosting4days . com
> > > > [db-lists]
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
> 



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